Guest GaWajn Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Outstanding work! It's coming along quite nicely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 Thanks guys, much appreciated. It has been a long haul. Lots to do yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 Got a bit of time in the shop today. Since the locking door handle is toast, I decided to install two unlocking handles until I find a locking one. Both suppliers who have them are out. One of the handles had a badly rusted shaft. Filled the pits with weld and filed the shaft to its shape, then gave it a shot with the emery cloth. Ditto with one of the sunvisor studs. Packed everything and will mail to the platers tomorow. That will complete the chrome work.Also, paid a visit to the painter's and lo and behold they have started on the parts that are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 The sunvisor studs mount in a socket above the windshield when the visor is facing front. When it swivels to the side it mounts in a socket above the door. The socket is held in a block of wood which is attached to the roof rail. I obtained a cardboard template of a sunvisor in order to make a hardboard mockup. I used that to find the position of the block above the door using an original. I then made up two new blocks.While rummaging for the original block, I found a cleaned up and painted armrest plate and an untouched one. Used the old wood of the unrestored plate to make two new ones. Next, I'll clean and paint the second plate. Probably had started that sometime back, got sidetracked and put it away until I found it today. I wonder how many more things I forgot like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ggdoorguy Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Hi Pat were did you find those little vertical chrome peices that go in the center of the dash by the key?Im looking for one of the short ones.thanksGary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) Gary, they were present on my parts car. I'll look araound to see if I have another, but I doubt it.Look at the third picture on post #419 on the previous page. There are two there both with broken tips. If you think you can cobble one from that, they're yours. Edited September 15, 2012 by Landman (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 In post 53 on page 3 I had attempted to salvage one of the fenders which was on the car. It was the best of the four and is clearly visible in posts 1 & 5 on the first page. First I had patched a hole using a piece of another fender. Then I had tried to bring the bead back on the bottom skirt and was dissatisfied with it. I had then taken it to the panelbeater with instructions to fix it if it was feasible. He had elected to fix one from the parts car because it would be cheaper.Later on a wave of renewed confidence I had spliced in the bottom skirt of another fender with so so results. Today, I looked at it again and decided to try again to salvage it. I ground down my old welds and rewelded all cracks, pinholes etc. I even put in a little piece of bead where the old one was cracked. I am posting this here at the risk of being laughed at since all that work is soooo crude. However I started to strip it to bring to the painters to see what they think of it. It is likely too rough. It would be nice though if the car eventually sported one of its own fenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts_DG8 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Pat, the only way to gain experience and confidence in your abilities is to experiment with performing tasks that challengen you. I think that what you did turned out rather well and a good painter should be able to make use of that fender or at the very least tall you what may need a bit more TLC before he accepts it. Then again a painter in one shop may have a different scope of skills and/or expectations then another, hence at the very least if he can not tackle it he should be able to tell you why and what needs to be done so that he can. Again, at a minimum it's a great effort and I wish you luck with the outcome of your painters review. Scott... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 A lot better than my first[ or second] attempt. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ggdoorguy Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Hi PatI just sent mine off to my uncle , he is a retired jewler living in Oragon , he's going to try and make me one.Thank you so much for your offer.ThanksGary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 Thanks Ben & Scott. I know you guys have been there since the beginning. It's nice to know you are not alone in the shop.Continued pecking away at the fender. Finished stripping the outside. Did a bit of pick & filing . Stripped the inside. Discovered daylight in a few places (pinholes). Welded them shut. I had removed the gavel shields from all my fenders when I was looking for a good skirt to splice in. So when I got one out of the stash I was delighterd to find out it was the one that had been on this particular fender. Look at the little piece I had replaced which was stuck to the gravel shield.Cleaned up the gravel shield .Amazingly enough, there was still paint underneath all that surface rust. Bolted it in place.It looks at home there. LOL.While I was labouring away my neighbour came home with several hundred pounds of nice lean meat for the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 Just came back from the painter's. Showed them the fender. They figure it isn't that much worse than the other. They'll do it.Meanwhile I'm to massage it a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Davethewave Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Are you going to trial fit the fenders before the painter does his job? Will thinner remove moose blood? LOL. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 I'm going to finish the metalwork with the fender mounted on the car. For the paint prep it has to be off though as there is a 2" strip that goes inside the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 Fired up the car, backed it out of the garage, turned it around and backed it in. Mounted the fender along with a tailpan to stabilize the skirt. Started picking & filing, Amazingly enough the roughest spots are the ones I attempted to repair. Go figure. It's got its shape back, there a a million little divots but they are in the order of 1/32". Except my old repairs of course. Gave it a shot of primer then a quick sanding in a few places. They are visible to the eye but barely discernable to the hand. Except my old repairs of course. Too bad Flop is so far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Greenlaw Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Hi Pat,Looking great and you are doing a brilliant job. Seeing the body on the chassis really shows its getting there.Hopefully I'm picking the body and 4 doors up from the painter tomorrow. First time the body has been put back permanently on the chassis in 12 years.Keep up the good work and enjoy the posts ( not sure about the moose head : ) )CheersIan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 Thanks Ian. However there is a type of Moosehead here that an Aussie might enjoy. It comes in a long neck brown bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodfiddler Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Thanks Ian. However there is a type of Moosehead here that an Aussie might enjoy. It comes in a long neck brown bottle.Mmmm - liquid Moosehead! Sure brings back memories! "Too bad Flop is so far away." **Flop - the ultimate standard in metal massaging.The project is looking great Pat. Thanks again for keeping us updated.Chuck<!-- google_ad_section_end --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2Wrench Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) It looks like some Flop is wearing off on you! Great to see the car almost complete. I'm trying to find a reason to be near the North Pole in the near future so I can drop by and see the car when it is completed. Edited September 19, 2012 by Luv2Wrench (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 Took a break from the fender. Did a template of a main sill for Tinus in South Africa.Started working on the oil pressure line. Cleaned up the old line, ran some brake cleaner through it with air pressure, pre-bent it close to its configuration and primed it. Cleaned up and painted the insulator and a couple of clips. Didn't quite abandon the fender. Marked up a potential patch panel to replace one of my original rough ones. This one would be a butt weld instead of a lap weld. Am I ready for that? That is the only useable (at least I think so) original fenders from the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts_DG8 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 This one would be a butt weld instead of a lap weld. Am I ready for that?Pat, I'm thinking you are. Although I wouldn't make a very good cheer leader I'll still be rooting for you. Scott... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 I just came across a photograph of my dad taken around the time he owned my car. Look at the sliver of fender behind the guy on the left and compare it to the cropped photo of the same area on a '34 Master. Could it be....or am I imagining things? I attached the photo taken in 1979 which was the earliest I have to show that the bumper was attached by a plain bolt and not the medallion bolt. The one in the old photo has a plain bolt too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2Wrench Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Looks like it to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 Attacked the fender patch today. Put the patch on the fender to check shape. Cleaned it up, marked the perimeter, cut the hole, fiitted the plate. Bubble gummed it in place. Still not nice but better than it was.Following Ken Hupp20's method as outlined in Nameplate Refinish posting, did a couple of little Fisher Body plates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinus Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 well done. im learning a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Greenlaw Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Hi Pat,I read in one of your posts that you started this Thread a reasonable way through your restoration. I was thinking of doing the same although I don't have the expertise that you or Bernie have I thought it might make for interesting reading. Approx how far through your project did you start the thread ?CheersIan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 Hi Ian,Yes I decided to post it many years after I started. I started the thread in February 2011. I had picked the car off the farm in 2001. The work had started in 2005 with the wood. That was posting #18. Caught up to real time sometime in 2011 around posting #138. I realize the forum is for current projects but as long as it isn't finished, it must be still current even if you started 30 years ago. As far as expertise goes you are correct about Bernie, it looks like there isn't much he can't do. In my case it is my first time, so it isn't expertise yet, just a verrrry steep learning curve. There are several things I've done two and three times.By all means, you should post your project. The variety here is what makes it all worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Zimmermann Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 By all means, you should post your project. The variety here is what makes it all worthwhile.You are right. And it's interesting to see that there are many methods so solve more or less the same problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Greenlaw Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Ok you won me. I'll have to scan the older pictures and I'll make a start this weekend.CheersIan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 A fairly good day in the shop today. Removed the fender from the car and touched up a weld in the rear lip. Gave the inside of the fender a good coat of POR 15. This can is more like semi gloss. The other one was very glossy.Received a paperstrip from the upholstery kit company asking me to mark my roof bows and headers as they can vary. They can do the headliner more accurately this way.While I was in the roof, I redid the dome light block with better dimensions and a hole to fit the cup more accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 More little boring jobs. Reinstalled the gravel shield in the left rear fender. Remounted it on the car and sealed all the welds and patches with All Metal. Using a piece of foam tape as a guide for the filler, straigtened the edges of the bottom lip bead.Noticed some bolts protruding in the roof which may interfere with the headliner. Cut them flush. Made a new center slat. I had damaged the other one while fiddling with the old dome light block. Screwed this one in. While I was up there I had visions of the ends of the other slats which were nailed popping up underneath the roof insert. So added a screw at both ends of the rest of them.Fitted the new pigtail to the dome light cup and gave it a new ground screw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 Remounted the dome light block. It is now flush with the bottom of the bows and the headliner should go right across it without hump or depression.I had purchased several church pews to augment my stock of seasoned oak. The kneelers had a pad which was made of a nice high density foam. After trying several tools, I found it cut nicely on the bandsaw. So I made some pads for my armrests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 Nothing much to report. I had approached the guy who did the sedan delivery in the photos to see if he'd take mine if the other didn't get going soon. He could.Took the car's own left rear fender to the painters.They'll take it like that. At the same time asked him for a commitment as I want to reassemble it over the winter. Turns out he has started on the parts that are there and he told me it will be done in 5-6 weeks.Received a note from the platers. The last of the chrome is almost done. that was all the small parts in the interior. Also received the rear view mirror I had purchased on eBay. It is good but floppy. Any ideas on how to tighten that swivel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 As my wife has started restoring some bookcases she built some 20 years ago and has them scattered all over the garage I had to find a clean job. So I started assembling the headlights. Cleaned up the old sockets and reinstalled with new pigtails, cork gasket and retaining spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 As my wife has started restoring some bookcases she built some 20 years ago and has them scattered all over the garage I had to find a clean job. So I started assembling the headlights. Cleaned up the old sockets and reinstalled with new pigtails, cork gasket and retaining spring.Interesting. I associate the pre-focused type bulb with cars later than '34. By the way, you are doing an incredible job on that car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted October 13, 2012 Author Share Posted October 13, 2012 Interesting. I associate the pre-focused type bulb with cars later than '34. By the way, you are doing an incredible job on that car!By the way, ply33, that is quite the website you have there. Very thourough and well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted October 13, 2012 Author Share Posted October 13, 2012 Continued putting the headlights together. The buckets were cracked around the rivets under the mounting plate so the plater had to drill out the rivets in order to silver solder all the cracks. Then he made me some bolts (like rivet headed bolts) out of some carriage bolts and plated them. I mounted the reinforcement plates today and attached the stanchions with the new acorn nuts just for the hell of it. I think it looks pretty good.The only fly in the ointment is that one of the stanchions has a broken bolt in it that both I and the plater missed. I'll try to extract it without scratching everything but I may have to bite the bullet and get another one plated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Zimmermann Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 That's bad luck...Hope you can rescue the part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 I think I'll start by standing the part on end and filling that cavity with penetrating oil and letting it soak for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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