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It's not a Cab A, it's a "regular" long tail Special Roadster except that the two-tone scheme makes it look a bit more unusual. Oh, and the front bumper is different from the standard type for these cars and may have been added after delivery. They all have roll-up windows by the way.

It's the car that got auctioned by RM yesterday@ $8.8 MM.....today it's silver with blue interior.

As to Argentina, several K's got there in the pre-war years and sure enough this very car had been associated in the past with a certain person of German origin who lived there for a while in the post war days. I did even comment on that some posts above on this page. Of course as with most of these kind of claims it's utter bullshit.

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Benefits of AACA Membership.

The prices all landed about where you would expect given the trajectory of the last few years. However I still was surprised given how weak the general economy is and the downward direction for most of the other parts of the car market. The cab A was most surprising as that was a million dollar car 5 or 6 years ago.

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The prices all landed about where you would expect given the trajectory of the last few years. However I still was surprised given how weak the general economy is and the downward direction for most of the other parts of the car market. The cab A was most surprising as that was a million dollar car 5 or 6 years ago.

I have been trying to find the auction results but Google doesn't turn it up, and RM isn't updated. Do you have a link?

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A friend gave me the results for the 5 Mercedes. I have not seen anything else yet except for the Whittel Coupe bringing 10 million.

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1. 1937 Mercedes-Benz 540 K Spezial Roadster – $9,680,000

2. 1960 Ferrari 250 GT SWB Berlinetta Competizione – $5,280,000

3. 1939 Mercedes-Benz 540 K Spezial Roadster – $4,620,000

4. 1935 Mercedes-Benz 500 K Roadster – $3,767,500

5. 1952 Ferrari 340 Mexico Berlinetta – $3,685,000

6. 1936 Mercedes-Benz 540 K Spezial Coupe – $3,080,000

7. 1936 Mercedes-Benz 540 K Sport Cabriolet A – $2,970,000

8. 1955 Ferrari 750 Monza Spyder – $2,530,000

9. 1962 Ferrari 400 Superamerica Coupe – $2,090,000

10. 1953 Ferrari 375 America Coupe – $1,980,000

11. 1967 Ferrari 275 GTB/4 Berlinetta – $ 1,485,000

12. 1970 Porsche 911S Steve McQueen Le Mans Movie Car – $1,375,000

13. 1958 BMW 507 Roadster – $1,072,500

14. 1924 Mercedes-Benz 28/95 Sport Phaeton – $1,017,500

15. 1934 Duesenberg Model J Riviera Phaeton – $990,000

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The prices all landed about where you would expect given the trajectory of the last few years. However I still was surprised given how weak the general economy is and the downward direction for most of the other parts of the car market. The cab A was most surprising as that was a million dollar car 5 or 6 years ago.

Agreed. The coupe and the short tail stayed well below their estimates, but those were definately a bit on the optimistic side. almost $3 MM for a standard Cab. A (540K engine or not) is astounding though. Probably someone got outbid on the Specials and jumped on that one, so he wouldn't have to go home without a car lol.

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Does anyone have a clue about the interior appointments of this car, the 500K Spezial Coupe given by Mercedes to Caracciola? Does it have a full wood dashboard like the 540K Spezial, or just a top bar of wood with a leather dash face? Is the steering wheel black, white or wood? This car has disappeared from modern view.

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I always tought Caracciola used the same plaid as he used in his race cars, but it doesn't appear so in what little I see in that photo.

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I've seen no reference to a plaid in the Caracciola 500K, though the subsequent 1936 540K coupe was supposed to have debuted at the 1936 Paris show with a cloth interior and plaid seats, introducing the entire 540K line, but the interior was changed to leather soon after. The show car, supposedly, was a dark brown and many years later was changed to the dark red for which it is known today. I assume the 1936 540K show car had seats looking something like this, which was far in advance of the famous SLR and 300 SL racing plaid. As for the 500K? I doubt it had plaid.

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This was at Pebble Beach this year. Second version of the 540k Special Roadster. Unrestored I believe. Formerly owned by Dr. Bitgood in CT for many years. Axle Shuette had it for sale 6 or 7 years ago in Germany.

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Here is a 36 540k Cab A that was modified sometime in the 1950s and painted gold (shown in red below) It was paraded around as the "Eva Braun" car. Also shown is the same car under restoration back to stock Cab A specs. More info here.

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Is that red Mercedes you just posted the one that was owned by Dil Stanley of Alliance, Ohio in the late 1960's - early 1970's? His had skirted fenders too, but I didn't remember them being THAT modified.

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Jason,

I'm not sure but I would lean towards not. In the 60s I think it was still bright gold in color and memorable for that feature. I believe it was still gold as late as 1970.

A.J.

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It was red with cream wheels when Dil had it. It was pictured in the CCCA magazine when that article about the Kreiger car was published some 10 years ago.

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Below is a picture of chassis number 36337 engine number 77638. Car was originally bodied by Erdmann and Rossi and then rebodied by factory with current body. Shown at the 1933 Baden-Baden concours. These two cars have some similar characteristics but also some significant differences in the rear fenders, tail, and doors. Btw, this car was available, unrestored for approx 2.5 million U.S. about 10 years ago.

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Here is an advertisement for a 500k when it was 3 years old. The dealer is taking some poetic license with the year of manufacture which was actually 36. The reference to being one of the fastest stock cars for the era was correct. The invoice for this car was just about $10,000 in 1936 when it was purchased from Mytropia Motors of NY. Three years later it was selling for $3750.00

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A 380 normal roadster. You see few 380's around. I've only seen 2 in person. Easy to distinguish from the 500k & 540k by the lack of exterior pipes.

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I have been told by a reliable source that there is a 500k/540k Conv in Michigan that was missing it's engine. When the owner could not acquire a correct engine he's built a subtle custom using a modern Mercedes engine. The car is being prepared to compete for the Ridler Award at the Detroit Autorama in 2012. Does anybody know anything else about this particular MB? Is it a Cab "B" or a Cab "A" or perhaps an outside body builder? I can't imagine under any circumstances it's a Cab "A" or Roadster.

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Here is a 500K Cab "C" that Steve Mack pointed out to me. It's for sale and you can read the whole ad here. Not to go off topic but the whitewalls are a crime. I posted it previously when it was going to auction but it did not sell. I believe it's listed in this month's Sports Car Market.

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According to its accompanying copy factory commission book extract, the order for this particular example - chassis number 123741 - was placed on November 1st 1935. Interestingly, another piece of paperwork on file suggests that the Cabriolet C was first owned by Lt. Colonel Stancomb and issued with the London registration number 'HXM 325' (one of its sister 500Ks - chassis number 123737 - being dispatched to the Marquis de Portago and road registered as 'GC 5149'). Resident in America by 1938, a contemporaneous photocopied Passenger Vehicle Registration Renewal Stub lists the Mercedes-Benz as belonging to Mark Stevens of Maple Avenue, Scotia, New York. Passing to Robert Saunders of Concord, Massacheusetts many years later, the four-seater had its correct type but replacement engine (number 113623) overhauled by renowned restorer M.L. Bud Cohn of Los Angeles, California during 1971. Despite Mr Saunders' varied attempts at refurbishment, chassis 123741 was complete but somewhat careworn by the time it entered the Valencia Collection.

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West, at least MB delivered some of those cars with chrome wheels. Almost none of them came with WW. I do agree that it would look better with black spokes with the chrome weight covers.

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