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This Special Roadster is pictured at Hershey in 1965 on page 237 of Melin Volume II. It was restored with a set of more conventional special roadster type front fenders. In fact the picture in in the book happens to be credited to Dave Mitchell.

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As far as I'm aware, there was no moderator involved with the photos not showing up.

It is weird because they went away and then came back again. The external links were valid and the host site was up at the time. Puzzling. I figured maybe there was a copyright on them and I didn't notice.

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This Special Roadster is pictured at Hershey in 1965 on page 237 of Melin Volume II. It was restored with a set of more conventional special roadster type front fenders. In fact the picture in in the book happens to be credited to Dave Mitchell.

This is the car that is owned by General Lyons today, painted in a quite odd color. I've always thought the wings were a period modification, then returned back to original in the restauration. Do you have more info on this car? Who was the original owner and where was the Roadster between the '60ies and when it reappeared in restored state at Pebble in 2002 (?).

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This is the car that is owned by General Lyons today, painted in a quite odd color. I've always thought the wings were a period modification, then returned back to original in the restauration. Do you have more info on this car? Who was the original owner and where was the Roadster between the '60ies and when it reappeared in restored state at Pebble in 2002 (?).

Somewhere I have pictures of it but they are early 60s. I agree with your thesis that the wings were a period mod as I have never seen a period picture with fenders like that. The heavier fenders did not look quite right and I would be surprised to find out they were sindelfingen. I do not know the history at all and would be interested to find out more about this car.

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I wouldn't say it is an odd color - just maroon, which was a color that MB had in the 30s. It just isn't red, silver or black, so perhaps unusual. The one that is odd to me is the repop one that is white. I did take the photo of the Lyon car at Pebble. I'd have to ask Jan about when the fenders were changed or if the red ones were from the factory.

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Definately more refreshing than red/tan with whitewalls ^^. I've just looked at a couple pictures of the Roadster inside the Lyon home and it does actually look a lot better than I remembered it from the PB photos. The color looked like some kind of purple in those pics. It'd be great if you got confirmation from Jan what the car probably looked like originally.

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Definately more refreshing than red/tan with whitewalls ^^. I've just looked at a couple pictures of the Roadster inside the Lyon home and it does actually look a lot better than I remembered it from the PB photos. The color looked like some kind of purple in those pics. It'd be great if you got confirmation from Jan what the car probably looked like originally.

+1 on the red/tan/whitewalls. I think I posted a bunch back on page 2 or 3 of this thread. Every Mercedes restored in the 1980s was done in these colors. I will say that Mercedes did in fact deliver a few cars this way. I've seen the invoice for a 500k Cab "A" that was specified red with a red chassis and chrome wires.

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Right side of a 540k engine compartment. You can distinguish the 540k vs. 500k by the intake and exhaust manifolds. The exhaust is on top for the 540k. The main thing people look at is the silencer (air cleaner) but I've seen 540k engines with factory 500k silencers on them.

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Thanks for digging up new pics. This is a car I haven't seen yet at least in that state. Do you have a s/n? When and where was the photo taken?

There aren't too many RHD Special Roadsters, also refreshing to see painted wire wheels instead of the common chromed ones.

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Jumping in late on this thread, My dad bought the '37 230 cabrio that I am currently restoring, for $250 in '62. later, around '67 or '68 he had a chance to buy a '37 320 A. The car was rough, (but today would be considered very restorable) anyway, he had no room, family etc. and his 230 was stored outside under a tarp!! (stored that way untill '75 when his garage was built) when he declined the purchase of the 320, the guy offered to sell him the wire wheels, caps, hubs etc. for "a couple hundered bucks" he also passed on the wheels. I wish I had the 320 now. couldnt have been much worse than my 230 when I started on it 40 years later.

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Jumping in late on this thread, My dad bought the '37 230 cabrio that I am currently restoring, for $250 in '62. later, around '67 or '68 he had a chance to buy a '37 320 A. The car was rough, (but today would be considered very restorable) anyway, he had no room, family etc. and his 230 was stored outside under a tarp!! (stored that way untill '75 when his garage was built) when he declined the purchase of the 320, the guy offered to sell him the wire wheels, caps, hubs etc. for "a couple hundered bucks" he also passed on the wheels. I wish I had the 320 now. couldnt have been much worse than my 230 when I started on it 40 years later.

If you can definitely post some pictures of the 230. Is it an A, B or C?

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Thanks for digging up new pics. This is a car I haven't seen yet at least in that state. Do you have a s/n? When and where was the photo taken?

There aren't too many RHD Special Roadsters, also refreshing to see painted wire wheels instead of the common chromed ones.

This car was used in a postcard that I have some where. I don't have a serial number but we could probably figure it out by process of elimination.

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mine is a '37 230 B pic was taken around '63 or '64 after most of the chrome was removed and sent to a plater. its still wrapped in the old newspaper it came back in. I will try and post current pics soon, but for whatever reason, the pics I have in my files now wont load to the site.

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no, when he bought it, someone had used mid '30s ford spare covers. it has sidemount clamps that dont allow for a cover. I just got word from the UK that a set of fenders are avail. as you can see in the ic. they were rough even back then. fenders were one of the few things I was looking for. I will try again this weekend to load current pics.

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I also wanted to add, after reading the entire thread, MB was very cooperative when it came to records. they supplied me with a full size coy of the original commission sheet showing the completion date, delivery date, and the original purchasers info. apparently it was purchased by a company that manufactured hats. (possibly military supplier?) they also provided several copies of tech. manuals as well as owners manuals on film. unfortunatly, I did not revieve any "as built info" such as color or add ons. I do have som nice original paint samples. Upper body was dark royal blue as were the fenders, while the middle body and wheels were a medium to dark grey. I am going to stay with the dark blue and cream that was applied on its second re-paint. with blue leather interior and blue cloth top (also as original)

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It is amazing how much info MB still has given the bombing during WWII. I think there is less on the Mannheim built ones but the they have everything on the Sindelfingen cars. However, I do not believe they will give out the original owners anymore because of privacy concerns.

Here is a shot of a 500k Exhaust and swing rear end setup.

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