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Four years ago they told me $12M for the Mayfair roadster at the peak of the market, but that was just to get rid of the riff-raff, like me! I'm sure they would have quoted a more reasonable number to a serious buyer. 

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Huge gap in its history - almost 60 years unknown. Not sure how they concluded it is the original body since it didn't reappear to many until 1995, after complete restoration.

 

From Christie's auction 2007:  Chassis number 169350 is one of the desirable Cabriolet B versions of the
supercharged Mercedes 540 K model that was ordered through Mercedes Benz Berlin with internal order number
257654. In the car’s file there is a fax by DaimlerChrysler A.G. from 1995, confirming the above and DaimlerChrysler
have recently stated that the car was first registered on August 24th 1937 initially destined to be used as a demonstrator.
Its bodywork was finished at the Mercedes-Benz Sindelfingen bearing the number 825716. Little more is known about
the car’s life until it resurfaced in the mid-nineties when it was completely restored.
This impressive matching numbers Cabriolet B retains all of its original major components: chassis, engine and
bodywork
... comes with Mercedes archive copies together with a copy of the manufacturer’s confirmation fax.
Chassis 169350 was purchased by the current European owner in 1997 forming part of his private collection
since then. It is clear that the car had been fully restored after being discovered in the early 90s, lots of the work being
undertaken by well known Mercedes-Benz specialist Böhringer.

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Me thinks I would NEVER buy an open pre war car without a entire string of provenance.............doesn’t matter price or make, you gotta know what your doing. Personally on any car over 100k I always want three or four informed opinions. 

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43 minutes ago, edinmass said:

Me thinks I would NEVER buy an open pre war car without a entire string of provenance.............doesn’t matter price or make, you gotta know what your doing. Personally on any car over 100k I always want three or four informed opinions. 

Is tgat nean if someone on line will say that not original car no obe will buy it???

Good to know lol. Will use that trick for futer lol

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On 8/17/2018 at 12:32 AM, MB Streamliner said:

This car, creates a false impression on the front and rear wings, as well as on the rear boot lid. I think there is a discrepancy with the original. maybe someone else sees this, too?

https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0818-346397/1937-mercedes-benz-540k-cabriolet-b/

 

You claim this was a replica, auction house says all original major components. So where is your proof that this is a fake? Auction description says restoration done by major shop in Germany so I strongly assume they have pre-resto pics and verified with Daimler that the components are original. It would also be rare that they try to fake a Cab B instead of a Cab A or a roadster. Again please back up your claim this is a fraud.

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Remember this is a hand-built automobile, no two of them are 100% identical. Plus many of these cars had a hard life and have been modified and components needed to be recreated or replaced. That doesnt mean the car is necessarily a fake one. As for the price, IMO $650k seems low, but $1.5MM I think is definately too high for a Cab B. 

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6 hours ago, MB Streamliner said:

pay attention to the bend of the trunk lid. A blue car and a black-and-white photo. So this bend of the trunk lid, the blue MB770 car, I see in the 540K convertible which costs 650,000. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0818-346397/1937-mercedes-benz-540k-cabriolet-b/

An auction estimate and final sale price are two different things. I’ll hopefully see the Cab B in person this week and provide my thoughts on condition.   If it is rough, then maybe 650 is not far off. Profession restoration by a know shop is 500-800 these days.

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Obviously it depends on the pre-resto condition, if you want to turn a worn ex Soviet Union car with major components missing into a Pebble Beach class winner, you may need to $800k at a major shop. I dont doubt that. Also, assuming same condition of the car, why would a Special Roadster cost more in a resto than a Cab B? Underneath the body, they are identical and body parts have to be hand made anyway as obviously there are no spares....why would it cost more to hammer a fender for a Roadster than a Cab B?

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1 hour ago, tilomagnet said:

Obviously it depends on the pre-resto condition, if you want to turn a worn ex Soviet Union car with major components missing into a Pebble Beach class winner, you may need to $800k at a major shop. I dont doubt that. Also, assuming same condition of the car, why would a Special Roadster cost more in a resto than a Cab B? Underneath the body, they are identical and body parts have to be hand made anyway as obviously there are no spares....why would it cost more to hammer a fender for a Roadster than a Cab B?

 

because it's a Sp. roadster. Its back is much more complicated than the Cab B

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1 hour ago, 540K said:

Monterey results:

 

Mayfair Roadster $3,277,500 Bonham's  + $500,000 over 2007 sale.

Tourenwagen $1,215,000 Bonham's

Cab B $577,500 Mecum - basically broke even on 2007 sale. This car was not great.

 

where I can see info about sale Cab B $577,500 ?

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8 hours ago, 8E45E said:

Currently at the Portland Art Museum (until September 16, 2018):

 

1938 540K Streamliner.   The chassis is original, but the body was lost and a new one was crafted by Mercedes Benz.

 

 

Maine or Oregon?

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