540K Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Four years ago they told me $12M for the Mayfair roadster at the peak of the market, but that was just to get rid of the riff-raff, like me! I'm sure they would have quoted a more reasonable number to a serious buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davlet Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 i had a real buyer but asking 12 mil for it I do not think anyone will pay that much:) 1937 G4 was sold for that money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share Posted July 27, 2018 Have they found the right clock for the tourenwagen yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/27/2018 at 7:24 PM, alsancle said: Have they found the right clock for the tourenwagen yet? Let me answer my own question with a current picture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 Here is a pre-resto picture of the mayfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 I should have said pre-last-restoration. This is after the car was restored in the 1970s after the fire in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
540K Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Mecum has added a Cab B to their Monterey auction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STREAMLINER Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, 540K said: Mecum has added a Cab B to their Monterey auction. This is Replica based on chassis from USSR . Low cost!! 650 000 USD https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0818-346397/1937-mercedes-benz-540k-cabriolet-b/ Edited August 16, 2018 by MB Streamliner (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilomagnet Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I dont see this mentioned in the auction description. You are saying this is a fraud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
540K Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) Huge gap in its history - almost 60 years unknown. Not sure how they concluded it is the original body since it didn't reappear to many until 1995, after complete restoration. From Christie's auction 2007: Chassis number 169350 is one of the desirable Cabriolet B versions of the supercharged Mercedes 540 K model that was ordered through Mercedes Benz Berlin with internal order number 257654. In the car’s file there is a fax by DaimlerChrysler A.G. from 1995, confirming the above and DaimlerChrysler have recently stated that the car was first registered on August 24th 1937 initially destined to be used as a demonstrator. Its bodywork was finished at the Mercedes-Benz Sindelfingen bearing the number 825716. Little more is known about the car’s life until it resurfaced in the mid-nineties when it was completely restored. This impressive matching numbers Cabriolet B retains all of its original major components: chassis, engine and bodywork ... comes with Mercedes archive copies together with a copy of the manufacturer’s confirmation fax. Chassis 169350 was purchased by the current European owner in 1997 forming part of his private collection since then. It is clear that the car had been fully restored after being discovered in the early 90s, lots of the work being undertaken by well known Mercedes-Benz specialist Böhringer. Edited August 16, 2018 by 540K (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STREAMLINER Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 This car, creates a false impression on the front and rear wings, as well as on the rear boot lid. I think there is a discrepancy with the original. maybe someone else sees this, too? https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0818-346397/1937-mercedes-benz-540k-cabriolet-b/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Me thinks I would NEVER buy an open pre war car without a entire string of provenance.............doesn’t matter price or make, you gotta know what your doing. Personally on any car over 100k I always want three or four informed opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davlet Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, edinmass said: Me thinks I would NEVER buy an open pre war car without a entire string of provenance.............doesn’t matter price or make, you gotta know what your doing. Personally on any car over 100k I always want three or four informed opinions. Is tgat nean if someone on line will say that not original car no obe will buy it??? Good to know lol. Will use that trick for futer lol Edited August 17, 2018 by Davlet (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilomagnet Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 12:32 AM, MB Streamliner said: This car, creates a false impression on the front and rear wings, as well as on the rear boot lid. I think there is a discrepancy with the original. maybe someone else sees this, too? https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0818-346397/1937-mercedes-benz-540k-cabriolet-b/ You claim this was a replica, auction house says all original major components. So where is your proof that this is a fake? Auction description says restoration done by major shop in Germany so I strongly assume they have pre-resto pics and verified with Daimler that the components are original. It would also be rare that they try to fake a Cab B instead of a Cab A or a roadster. Again please back up your claim this is a fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilomagnet Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Remember this is a hand-built automobile, no two of them are 100% identical. Plus many of these cars had a hard life and have been modified and components needed to be recreated or replaced. That doesnt mean the car is necessarily a fake one. As for the price, IMO $650k seems low, but $1.5MM I think is definately too high for a Cab B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 I would be surprised if someone faked a Cab B. The back of the car could have had a lot of work done in the last 80 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STREAMLINER Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 My suspicions appeared when I saw this car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STREAMLINER Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 The 770 is a real car I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STREAMLINER Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 4 hours ago, alsancle said: The 770 is a real car I believe. pay attention to the bend of the trunk lid. A blue car and a black-and-white photo. So this bend of the trunk lid, the blue MB770 car, I see in the 540K convertible which costs 650,000. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0818-346397/1937-mercedes-benz-540k-cabriolet-b/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 6 hours ago, MB Streamliner said: pay attention to the bend of the trunk lid. A blue car and a black-and-white photo. So this bend of the trunk lid, the blue MB770 car, I see in the 540K convertible which costs 650,000. https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0818-346397/1937-mercedes-benz-540k-cabriolet-b/ An auction estimate and final sale price are two different things. I’ll hopefully see the Cab B in person this week and provide my thoughts on condition. If it is rough, then maybe 650 is not far off. Profession restoration by a know shop is 500-800 these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, MB Streamliner said: Restoration Convertible B will cost no more than 250,000 euro. / SP Roadster 350 000 euro/ Coupe 300 000 euro I said "known" shop. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STREAMLINER Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, alsancle said: I said "known" shop. ? But it is not 500-800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilomagnet Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Obviously it depends on the pre-resto condition, if you want to turn a worn ex Soviet Union car with major components missing into a Pebble Beach class winner, you may need to $800k at a major shop. I dont doubt that. Also, assuming same condition of the car, why would a Special Roadster cost more in a resto than a Cab B? Underneath the body, they are identical and body parts have to be hand made anyway as obviously there are no spares....why would it cost more to hammer a fender for a Roadster than a Cab B? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STREAMLINER Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, tilomagnet said: Obviously it depends on the pre-resto condition, if you want to turn a worn ex Soviet Union car with major components missing into a Pebble Beach class winner, you may need to $800k at a major shop. I dont doubt that. Also, assuming same condition of the car, why would a Special Roadster cost more in a resto than a Cab B? Underneath the body, they are identical and body parts have to be hand made anyway as obviously there are no spares....why would it cost more to hammer a fender for a Roadster than a Cab B? because it's a Sp. roadster. Its back is much more complicated than the Cab B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilomagnet Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Any special MBs entered this year @ Pebble Beach? Anyone have some insight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 There was at least one 500k on the tour so I would expect a couple of cars on the show field. There was definitely a few interesting ones at the auction. Hard to see the great car behind the good looking guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 The good looking guy took the photo.........just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STREAMLINER Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) On 8/21/2018 at 2:00 AM, alsancle said: This Mercedes 540K Cab B LOT S92.1 MONTEREY 2018 AUG 23-25 is sold? I do not see it LOT S92.1 in RESULTS https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0818-346397/1937-mercedes-benz-540k-cabriolet-b/ Edited August 27, 2018 by MB Streamliner (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 My memory is that it was around 575k all in. I did not see it personally but some other forum contributors did and can maybe comment? To summarize what I was told, no data plate and a lot of needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davlet Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 anyone going to Hershey??? please looking for v16 1931-34 manifolds and carburetors and hole engine Dav might be wrong chat but please needddd ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STREAMLINER Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Davlet said: anyone going to Hershey??? please looking for v16 1931-34 manifolds and carburetors and hole engine Dav might be wrong chat but please needddd ? AUTO-UNION TYPE A 1934? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 30, 2018 Author Share Posted August 30, 2018 In case you are not following the SSJ thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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540K Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Monterey results: Mayfair Roadster $3,277,500 Bonham's + $500,000 over 2007 sale. Tourenwagen $1,215,000 Bonham's Cab B $577,500 Mecum - basically broke even on 2007 sale. This car was not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STREAMLINER Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, 540K said: Monterey results: Mayfair Roadster $3,277,500 Bonham's + $500,000 over 2007 sale. Tourenwagen $1,215,000 Bonham's Cab B $577,500 Mecum - basically broke even on 2007 sale. This car was not great. where I can see info about sale Cab B $577,500 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) Currently at the Portland Art Museum (until September 16, 2018): 1938 540K Streamliner. The chassis is original, but the body was lost and a new one was crafted by Mercedes Benz. Edited September 7, 2018 by 8E45E (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
540K Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 8 hours ago, 8E45E said: Currently at the Portland Art Museum (until September 16, 2018): 1938 540K Streamliner. The chassis is original, but the body was lost and a new one was crafted by Mercedes Benz. Maine or Oregon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Oregon. https://portlandartmuseum.org/exhibitions/shape-of-speed/ Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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