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The Streamliner was a sight to behold, regardless whether you think it is "elegant" or attractive (it isn't). The curved side windows are a nice detail, and I was surprised to see how wide the door sills are. They used a basic cabin and merely extended the floor out to include the space that would otherwise be running boards, so there is a lot of space between the seat and the edge of the car. Interesting that they also merely extended the hood to include what would have been external exhaust pipes (with covers). So it seems they took a normal chassis and cabin and enlarged the body to streamline it. Very interesting to see going down the road - it is really big - kind of like taking a big car and putting another body around it.

Right next to it was the 540K Special Coupe - imo the most beautiful large coupe ever made. The T-L teardrop and Bugatti T50 are sublime small coupes, but they do not exude the presence that the large 540K coupe has. I just sat and stared at it for quite a while.

There were three supercharged cars for sale, two at RM and one at Rick Cole. The Cab A at Rick Cole has sold three previous times since 2008 for $2M, $3M and $3M, but this fourth time bidding reached $2.95M ($3.25M with premium) but did not meet reserve. The 500K Mayfair Tourer at RM sold for $825,000. The Special Cabriolet with waterfall grill as reported above was $1.54M.

Russo & Steel had the Special Roadster replica for sale. The high bid was $450,000 and did not sell. I have known about this car for a couple of years, but this was the first time I saw it in person. It looks great in wide photos and from about 75 feet, but there are quite a few things that aren't correct. Still, a very nice replica at the right price. As discussed in previous posts, I think this is a $150-200K replica, but I am told it first sold for $400K a couple of years ago, and the asking price has been a million. Shows what I know -- it has sold once and brought a bid of more than twice what I think it's worth.

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A.J. the Mayfair is nice but does not look like a "typical" big MB, no? I kind of think it works the same way with Packards, say, with european coachwork. People appreciate them but kind of think of US coachbuilders with a car that is so symbolic of an American Full Classic.

Here is an aside for anyone in the Northeast. The LimeRock vintage Fall Festival is featuring 5 cars from the Ralph Lauren collection - who I believe has a couple of very unusual 500/540K cars. Unfortunately, while I would hope these would be what is featured, I cannot find the list of concours entrants or featured vehicles, just the general feature info. I would think for a fan of prewar MB those alone would be worth a visit to the Concours on Sunday.

That said, this is one of our favorite events, although we are missing this year due to a conflict - I still thought it might be of interest:

http://limerockhistorics.com/

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Here is a mystery that perhaps someone can help solve. Pictured is a late 540k owned in the 50s and 1960s by Edward Roehrs of Puerto Rico. I have acquired a huge file on the car and know the history back to when it was built but nothing after 1970. It seems to have disappeared. It was a right hand drive with removable hard top. Serial number 286829, engine 189393.

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I think that this blue car which is presently in the Southwards museum in NZ is the Roehrs 540k. I emailed them a few months ago and never heard back.

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Hello everybody. I am a newbie to the forum although I've been playing guest for about a year. This is a picture of the car that sat in Bob Platz's shop in the late Seventies when I worked there. I finally have an operational scanner so I scanned my 540K pictures. It was a '39 5 speed car. Somewhere I have the serial number. When I worked there it didn't run. There was a problem with the starter Bendix.

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Hello everybody. I am a newbie to the forum although I've been playing guest for about a year. This is a picture of the car that sat in Bob Platz's shop in the late Seventies when I worked there. I finally have an operational scanner so I scanned my 540K pictures. It was a '39 5 speed car. Somewhere I have the serial number. When I worked there it didn't run. There was a problem with the starter Bendix.

Thanks for posting the photo!

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I need to rebuild some of the front suspension. Most of the rubber is rock hard, such as the window seals and all things rubber. The center emblem for the horn is missing. Parts for the steering box. There is a list.

The car runs well and is driving. It is not ready for a long trip or highway yet.

Chris

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I contacted Hayden at the Southward Museum, and this was his response. As you can see, he is aware of this topic and would like more information on the vehicle if anyone is able to provide it. He also provided the photos below.

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I can confirm this is the number on our car, I have seen the messages on the forum and the old pic also , I am very interested to contact the person who has all the information on our car as it would be great.

I will have a look at the records we have on file about the purchase of this car, my understanding is Sir Len Southward purchased this 540K in England probably in the 1970’s, am pretty sure he paid for it so it is not stolen as stated on the Forum

I have attached a couple of images for you one is as we found the car prior to its 3 year restoration

If you need anything please contact me

Regards

Hayden Beissel

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My future project is a 1936 170V Cab A. I am hoping to start it this winter. It needs everything. My dad picked up the car in 1967 and it has been in storage ever since. The license plate on it is 1961. The engine turns over. The 320 was also his. You might have seen it around in the 70's

Chris

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I like the 170 Cab A better than the roadster. The lines are really nice. If you have talked to Henry he restored a 37 or 38 to perfection about 15 years ago. Drove it all over New England. It had the overdrive top gear I believe so it was really nice car to drive. Keep us posted on your progress.

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I know of about ten 500K / 540K's for sale right now, ranging from $3.5M to $12M except for one Cab A undergoing restoration at $2.5M unfinished, and two rebodied cars at $1.6 - $1.8M. Anyone know of any original cars, any body style, currently available for under $2M, or any coming up for auction?

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Craig, I think there are a couple of older restoration 500k Cab C and Cab B cars that are available for under 1 million. I know in the case of one I see 2-300k in sorting/cleanup to make it nice. I could be wrong about the pricing as I have not directly talked to the owners.

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Hello All AJ Graig

that actually true the cab C was sold for $800K. with older restoration but still in good shape. and I know and AJ know one more older restoration 540 cab b for $750K.

so the prices a little tricky. all about what you will came a cross too.

Thanks

Dav.

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Henry Magno will be showing the recently completed 1939 Mercedes-Benz 170 V Roadster at the Boston Cup show on Boston Common this Sunday.

Thanks, AJ, for posting this. It was a nice show and we were pleased that the car won "Best German Car". I just realized that you don't need to be an AACA member to be on this forum so I just signed up.

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