Davlet Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) Edited August 19, 2014 by Davlet (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 Nice pictures. Do you know the serial number on the Cab A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davlet Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Nice pictures. Do you know the serial number on the Cab A?nop sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davlet Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Does anyone know is it possible to build (adopted) on 290 chassis 500k engine and transmission and body? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
540K Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Does anyone know is it possible to build (adopted) on 290 chassis 500k engine and transmission and body? ??Not without significant alteration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
540K Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) The Streamliner was a sight to behold, regardless whether you think it is "elegant" or attractive (it isn't). The curved side windows are a nice detail, and I was surprised to see how wide the door sills are. They used a basic cabin and merely extended the floor out to include the space that would otherwise be running boards, so there is a lot of space between the seat and the edge of the car. Interesting that they also merely extended the hood to include what would have been external exhaust pipes (with covers). So it seems they took a normal chassis and cabin and enlarged the body to streamline it. Very interesting to see going down the road - it is really big - kind of like taking a big car and putting another body around it.Right next to it was the 540K Special Coupe - imo the most beautiful large coupe ever made. The T-L teardrop and Bugatti T50 are sublime small coupes, but they do not exude the presence that the large 540K coupe has. I just sat and stared at it for quite a while.There were three supercharged cars for sale, two at RM and one at Rick Cole. The Cab A at Rick Cole has sold three previous times since 2008 for $2M, $3M and $3M, but this fourth time bidding reached $2.95M ($3.25M with premium) but did not meet reserve. The 500K Mayfair Tourer at RM sold for $825,000. The Special Cabriolet with waterfall grill as reported above was $1.54M.Russo & Steel had the Special Roadster replica for sale. The high bid was $450,000 and did not sell. I have known about this car for a couple of years, but this was the first time I saw it in person. It looks great in wide photos and from about 75 feet, but there are quite a few things that aren't correct. Still, a very nice replica at the right price. As discussed in previous posts, I think this is a $150-200K replica, but I am told it first sold for $400K a couple of years ago, and the asking price has been a million. Shows what I know -- it has sold once and brought a bid of more than twice what I think it's worth. Edited August 20, 2014 by 540K (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 The Mayfair is attractive but illustrates how the market rewards left hand drive Sindelfingen bodied cars as opposed to custom bodies with RHD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 A.J. the Mayfair is nice but does not look like a "typical" big MB, no? I kind of think it works the same way with Packards, say, with european coachwork. People appreciate them but kind of think of US coachbuilders with a car that is so symbolic of an American Full Classic.Here is an aside for anyone in the Northeast. The LimeRock vintage Fall Festival is featuring 5 cars from the Ralph Lauren collection - who I believe has a couple of very unusual 500/540K cars. Unfortunately, while I would hope these would be what is featured, I cannot find the list of concours entrants or featured vehicles, just the general feature info. I would think for a fan of prewar MB those alone would be worth a visit to the Concours on Sunday.That said, this is one of our favorite events, although we are missing this year due to a conflict - I still thought it might be of interest: http://limerockhistorics.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 Here is a mystery that perhaps someone can help solve. Pictured is a late 540k owned in the 50s and 1960s by Edward Roehrs of Puerto Rico. I have acquired a huge file on the car and know the history back to when it was built but nothing after 1970. It seems to have disappeared. It was a right hand drive with removable hard top. Serial number 286829, engine 189393.[ATTACH=CONFIG]232721[/ATTACH]I think that this blue car which is presently in the Southwards museum in NZ is the Roehrs 540k. I emailed them a few months ago and never heard back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K8096 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 AJ, the blue car is the one that was in Ohio in the mid 1950's, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 That is my theory but with out the chassis number if the car in NZ no way to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lotusrepair Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Has anyone located parts suppliers for the prewar cars? The Classic Center is no help. The 1940 320 is back on the road. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 For 320 parts contact Henry Magno at http://www.magnorestorations.com/And post some pictures of your car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lotusrepair Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I have chatted with Henry on another forum. I have talked to the suppliers in the USA. It always helps to ask. Some new info just might come up. https://www.flickr.com/photos/108090035@N05/15172918215/First car show in 23 years for this car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXWEDGECHARLIE Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Hello everybody. I am a newbie to the forum although I've been playing guest for about a year. This is a picture of the car that sat in Bob Platz's shop in the late Seventies when I worked there. I finally have an operational scanner so I scanned my 540K pictures. It was a '39 5 speed car. Somewhere I have the serial number. When I worked there it didn't run. There was a problem with the starter Bendix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
540K Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 [ATTACH=CONFIG]268711[/ATTACH]Hello everybody. I am a newbie to the forum although I've been playing guest for about a year. This is a picture of the car that sat in Bob Platz's shop in the late Seventies when I worked there. I finally have an operational scanner so I scanned my 540K pictures. It was a '39 5 speed car. Somewhere I have the serial number. When I worked there it didn't run. There was a problem with the starter Bendix.Thanks for posting the photo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
540K Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Has anyone located parts suppliers for the prewar cars? The Classic Center is no help. The 1940 320 is back on the road. ChrisLooks like a complete car. What are you looking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 https://www.flickr.com/photos/108090035@N05/15172918215/First car show in 23 years for this car.I couldn't open the picture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Thanks for posting the photo!+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lotusrepair Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I need to rebuild some of the front suspension. Most of the rubber is rock hard, such as the window seals and all things rubber. The center emblem for the horn is missing. Parts for the steering box. There is a list. The car runs well and is driving. It is not ready for a long trip or highway yet. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 Nice. I have always liked the Cab B. I remember Richie Kline was selling a completely original one for about 45k back about 10 years ago. Missed opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 60electra225 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I contacted Hayden at the Southward Museum, and this was his response. As you can see, he is aware of this topic and would like more information on the vehicle if anyone is able to provide it. He also provided the photos below.<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:TrackMoves/> <w:TrackFormatting/> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:DoNotPromoteQF/> <w:LidThemeOther>EN-AU</w:LidThemeOther> <w:LidThemeAsian>X-NONE</w:LidThemeAsian> <w:LidThemeComplexScript>X-NONE</w:LidThemeComplexScript> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:DontGrowAutofit/> <w:SplitPgBreakAndParaMark/> <w:EnableOpenTypeKerning/> <w:DontFlipMirrorIndents/> <w:OverrideTableStyleHps/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> <m:mathPr> <m:mathFont m:val="Cambria Math"/> <m:brkBin m:val="before"/> <m:brkBinSub m:val="--"/> <m:smallFrac m:val="off"/> <m:dispDef/> <m:lMargin m:val="0"/> <m:rMargin m:val="0"/> <m:defJc m:val="centerGroup"/> <m:wrapIndent m:val="1440"/> <m:intLim m:val="subSup"/> <m:naryLim m:val="undOvr"/> </m:mathPr></w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> Craig I can confirm this is the number on our car, I have seen the messages on the forum and the old pic also , I am very interested to contact the person who has all the information on our car as it would be great. I will have a look at the records we have on file about the purchase of this car, my understanding is Sir Len Southward purchased this 540K in England probably in the 1970’s, am pretty sure he paid for it so it is not stolen as stated on the Forum I have attached a couple of images for you one is as we found the car prior to its 3 year restoration If you need anything please contact me Regards Hayden Beissel <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" DefUnhideWhenUsed="true" DefSemiHidden="true" DefQFormat="false" DefPriority="99" LatentStyleCount="267"> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="0" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Normal"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="9" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="heading 1"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="9" QFormat="true" Name="heading 2"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="9" QFormat="true" Name="heading 3"/> <w:LsdException 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alsancle Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 Just to clarify, the car was stolen and recovered so there is no concern on the museum's part. Hayden, I will pm you my contact info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bill K. Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I can see there's been quite a bit of activity since my last appearance here. Hi, A.J. and Craig, hope you guys are well. Craig, I see you've made some progress on the 540K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Hey Bill, there seems to be a lot of cars coming to market so that gives us something to talk about. I'm excited we figured out what happened to the Roehrs 540k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lotusrepair Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 My future project is a 1936 170V Cab A. I am hoping to start it this winter. It needs everything. My dad picked up the car in 1967 and it has been in storage ever since. The license plate on it is 1961. The engine turns over. The 320 was also his. You might have seen it around in the 70'sChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 I like the 170 Cab A better than the roadster. The lines are really nice. If you have talked to Henry he restored a 37 or 38 to perfection about 15 years ago. Drove it all over New England. It had the overdrive top gear I believe so it was really nice car to drive. Keep us posted on your progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintagerodshop Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Has anyone located parts suppliers for the prewar cars? The Classic Center is no help. The 1940 320 is back on the road. ChrisIf you send me a pm with contact info I can help you with who we used for some of the small stuff. We have a 1931 370 and a 1934 290.Kirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
540K Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I know of about ten 500K / 540K's for sale right now, ranging from $3.5M to $12M except for one Cab A undergoing restoration at $2.5M unfinished, and two rebodied cars at $1.6 - $1.8M. Anyone know of any original cars, any body style, currently available for under $2M, or any coming up for auction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Craig, I think there are a couple of older restoration 500k Cab C and Cab B cars that are available for under 1 million. I know in the case of one I see 2-300k in sorting/cleanup to make it nice. I could be wrong about the pricing as I have not directly talked to the owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davlet Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Hello All AJ Graig that actually true the cab C was sold for $800K. with older restoration but still in good shape. and I know and AJ know one more older restoration 540 cab b for $750K.so the prices a little tricky. all about what you will came a cross too.ThanksDav. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Dav, the Cab b was for sale 2 or 3 years ago so I do not know if it sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Henry Magno will be showing the recently completed 1939 Mercedes-Benz 170 V Roadster at the Boston Cup show on Boston Common this Sunday. http://thebostoncup.com/and on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Boston-Cup/145250372151691 Edited September 19, 2014 by alsancle (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davlet Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Here we go. One more mb. On auctionhttp://rickcole.com/1936-mercedes-540k-sport-cabriolet/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Here we go. One more mb. On auctionhttp://rickcole.com/1936-mercedes-540k-sport-cabriolet/I remember when that car could be bought for a scant 1.2 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
540K Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Here we go. One more mb. On auctionhttp://rickcole.com/1936-mercedes-540k-sport-cabriolet/That auction was last month. The car did not sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Magno Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Henry Magno will be showing the recently completed 1939 Mercedes-Benz 170 V Roadster at the Boston Cup show on Boston Common this Sunday. Thanks, AJ, for posting this. It was a nice show and we were pleased that the car won "Best German Car". I just realized that you don't need to be an AACA member to be on this forum so I just signed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXWEDGECHARLIE Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Hello Everybody; here are 2 photos of what was advertised as a 1927 Model K. The car was at Hershey in 1980. The interesting thing is that it had an Auburn engine installed. If memory serves the asking price was $6,000 to $7,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 That is a pretty good looking car, especially for a K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 Henry, you need to watch this thread and post your words of wisdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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