Roger Zimmermann

Construction of a Continental Mark II model, scale 1:12

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Roger you are the best.I dont like to always keep on praising you as your work is exceptional and outstanding.The car is coming out as a real one.But the pleasure of seeing it in construction phase is always good rather than seeing the completed one.Then you will feel it as a real car.Nobody will miss roger then.

How do you solder the parts.I tried in a scale motorcycle I did.but it was the normal electronic soldering I had.Do you use some special solder as I have seen that once the solder dries it becomes brittle.How is it that it remains strong or is it welding that you do?

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Thanks Dileep!

I'm surprised that your solder get brittle. I suppose you are using soft solder which is a alloy of tin. This type of solder is not very strong unless the soldered surface is consequent. For delicate work, like I did on the hood ornament, you could read that my tentative to soft solder the outer ring ended with a disaster. For that, silver soldering is more suitable, but requires a torch as the melting temperature is about 650-680°C. The inconvenient is that the brass get softer (it is annealed) and can compromise the strength of a part. As you see, a medal has always 2 sides.

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My personal preference would be the blue. They both look good enough that you could flip a coin to decide and still be OK. In either color, it will look great.

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I think I prefer the thought of gray with red interior, my feeling is the blue on blue is going to be too much blue unless you go with a completely different shade on the interior.

 

They both look great by the way.

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Would the red and white interior be done the same way as in the picture, if so I'm not sure I like the idea of a red and white interior in the gray car. If that is the case I may be leaning toward the blue.

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Roger, you just keep on amazing us !  As with some others, I am preferring the blue paint.  I am a bit biased though, because as a painter ( in my past life ), I always thought of the entire grey/silver color band as primers, ha !  Whichever you do will look great I'm sure.  I have not seen too many Continentals, but with the exception of a white, really rusty one with a black and white interior, they were all beautiful.  Good luck on finding the paint with the proper size pigments of metallics you want. The choices may be limited with the aerosols..  Thanks again for this wonderful journey you are taking us on....I have to say, it is my favorite one and the one I always come to first.   John

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Thanks Roger,Have to try the torch option

3 hours ago, Roger Zimmermann said:

Thanks Dileep!

I'm surprised that your solder get brittle. I suppose you are using soft solder which is a alloy of tin. This type of solder is not very strong unless the soldered surface is consequent. For delicate work, like I did on the hood ornament, you could read that my tentative to soft solder the outer ring ended with a disaster. For that, silver soldering is more suitable, but requires a torch as the melting temperature is about 650-680°C. The inconvenient is that the brass get softer (it is annealed) and can compromise the strength of a part. As you see, a medal has always 2 sides.

Thanks Roger,have to try the torch option when I again get back to a scale model.Write now I am trying designing with solidworks software,tends to be little easier to change wrong design:)

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After getting 8 post notices within a couple of hours I suspected their might be some color being applied! Looking spectacular and I can't wait to see it in full color! Speaking of color, those look awesome in Desert Rose!

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Roger, I wouldn't normally comment on something as personal as someone's choice of colour, but you asked for opinions... :P

 

My opinion is that the best colour would be one that is correct for the age of car. A sharp, modern colour on an old car looks wrong unless the owner is deliberately making a custom car, in which case the wheels and interior also need to look custom.

 

Both colours you've presented look like beautiful shades but to my eyes they look like modern colours. Are they?

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Roger,

I like the dark gray / red leather combination better, but I'm certain that which ever way you decide to go, the results will be stunning. It has certainly been a long journey up to this point - thrilling and inspiring for us as observers, challenging and involved for you as the artist.  All of us have enjoyed the privilege of going along for the ride.

 

Dave Reeves

New York, USA

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Roger, I thought I would throw my two pennies in on the color choices.  I think the blue would look nice, but a shade not as dark as what you have on the trunk.  I think a lighter shade of blue would look great.  Not a pastel type, but something more toned down.  Something not as intense.  The whole project is looking great!  

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Roger,

Silicons hit on something that I was pondering after seeing several Continentals show up at our car club meeting here in Rancho Santa Fe, CA.  One was a light blue with white interior, another was black with a black interior (both original and very well preserved).  The third was a copper metallic with a copper/white interior.  VERY STRIKING. IT was completely restored and was perfect.  I do not know if it (the copper) was an original color selection for the mid 50's offered to the buyer. The owner of the car had stepped away and I did not get a chance to ask him.   I had a 1965 Lincoln Continental 2 dr. Sedan back in the 70's that was a trade in at the local Lincoln/Mercury dealership.  It had 38,000 miles on it and I paid $800.00 for the car.  It was in perfect condition with the paint starting to fade. But after I buffed it out, it looked great.  It was a copper/bronze metallic color with the same color scheme for the interior. No contrast so I got tired of it and sold it. Used cars were very inexpensive back then.  If I had just hung onto a few of the cars that I owned...................................................:-(   

 

With  a  1:12 scale, the color is a tough choice.    I keep harking back to the time that I was in Jr. High.  Our local doctor had purchased the Continental for his "Sunday"  car for the family outings.  It was a light, sky blue with a white interior.  Extremely striking.  Even though it was 10 years old, it still had more class going down the road that any newer car.  It was timeless in design and sophistication.  The light sky blue stuck in my memory to this day. 

 

Roger,  I do not know if it is a tough decision for you.  One that you have been pondering for quite some time, after spending 7-8 years on the car, paint it the color that YOU like.

 

What ever color you choose, I am sure that you will get it right.  It is nice of you to ask our opinions for feed back.  I had one heck of a time picking the color for my Spider till I saw a car zzooooming by me on the freeway.  I sped up and saw the Toyota badge on the trunk.  Right then and there, I drove to the dealership and pinned down the color.  Nautical Metallic Blue.  Not an original FIAT color but striking.  Now I have the car painted and with a bone colored leather interior, it is very nice.

 

This car is a class act 1:1 or 1:12th scale.  It must be very hard for you to select the color and the feedback may help.  If I had to opt for a color, I would go with the grey but not so dark. Maybe a little lighter shade of Metallic Grey. And coupled with the burgundy leather interior.  STRIKING !  I hope that you are able to find the metalic paint with a smaller metal flake.  Do you have Testors or Tamaya available?  I am sure that they are available in the hobby stores.  With the hobby paint, I am sure that they have the metallic with the smaller flake in the paint for a more scale application.   And a local auto paint store can take the paint and put it in an aerosol "shaker" can for you.  That way, you have the comfort level of using a spray can.  Just a thought.

 

It is exciting to know that you are at this stage.  The completion is just around the corner.........................................WOW.

 

Randy  

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Roger,

I agree with the others that whatever color you choose it will be spectacular.  You can add me as a fan of the color blue.

I'm sure you've see it, but for those who haven't, the September 2016 issue of Hemmings Classic Car featured the creator of the Mark II, William Clay Ford's original 1956.  His was painted a special one-off color called "Honolulu Blue", which is remarkably similar to the sample color you provided. For the creator of the incredible one-off model to paint it a one-off factory color made for the creator of the actual car might be worth considering.

 

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Roger, on the plus side of painting.  At least you will not be spending $20,000 for a paint job.  Maybe you will have $25 into yours.  The car is really looking fantastic.  

 

 

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On ‎04‎.‎04‎.‎2017 at 7:33 PM, John Byrd said:

Roger, you just keep on amazing us !  As with some others, I am preferring the blue paint.  I am a bit biased though, because as a painter ( in my past life ), I always thought of the entire grey/silver color band as primers, ha !  Whichever you do will look great I'm sure.  I have not seen too many Continentals, but with the exception of a white, really rusty one with a black and white interior, they were all beautiful.  Good luck on finding the paint with the proper size pigments of metallics you want. The choices may be limited with the aerosols..  Thanks again for this wonderful journey you are taking us on....I have to say, it is my favorite one and the one I always come to first.   John

Interesting point of view about dark gray looking like primer! Anyway, the more I see dark gray cars on the road, the more I prefer blue! I'm sure I will find the right paint with smaller pigments.

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Thanks to Randy, Buick59 for the pages from Classic cars (I dont have this publication) and John as well as the other ones for their comments. There are too much, I cannot follow properly with the answers! I also have to say that I was not expecting so many comments with just 2 paint samples. May I ad that I do appreciate those comments?

To John: I will have a little more than $ 25.00; maybe $75 to 100.00. Primer must be added, plus the various rattle cans I will try; anyway,not $20'000.00!

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At this period of the year, I have other duties. However, I had the time to do something for the Mark II, see the picture. The interst to drink from time to time a good wine is that the bottles are delivered with a wood box. I used that wood to do what you see here. Of course those parts are just rough; what are they in your opinion?

 

 

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Bingo! Once trimmed, the wood parts will be covered with leather.

If you are coming home to visit us, we will open a bottle of the said wine!

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Roger must be busy.  

 

I am awaiting the transformation of the wood parts into the bench seats for the Continental.  I am wondering how he is going to get the little "springs" to fit in the frames.  :-)   Of course, there will not be any such items.  It will be interesting to see how  he attaches the leather and if there is an under-lament before the leather is attached.  Roger, are you going to sew into the leather the patterns of the seats like the 1:1 Continental?  Or how are you going to simulate the stitching?  We are awaiting your magic.

 

Randy  

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Yes Randy, I'm busy! Back from 2 1/2 weeks of vacation (I did the wood work there) and this week is "sold": seminar and tomorrow, I'm getting a '58 Hydramatic transmission (scale 1:1) for repair.

Nothing was done recently on the model; I hope next week will be more useful!

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