Right Coasters

[Guest RightCoast]

Just wanted to pop in and say hello to everyone now that we are on the message forum. We hope to learn about what people like to see at events and help bring the hobby another step in the RIGHT direction.

Take care.

[Talarico8447]

Hello, Welcome. You'll get the feel very quick on what people like to see by browsing topics.

[joe_padavano]

Just wanted to pop in and say hello to everyone now that we are on the message forum. We hope to learn about what people like to see at events and help bring the hobby another step in the RIGHT direction.

Take care.

I've been to one Syracuse Nationals and it was fantastic. Note that this forum is not very supportive of street rodders, however.

[1937hd45]

Welcome to the Forun, but this is a tough crowd if you have replaced the air in your original tires.

[Larry Schramm]

This is not a street rodder site because it is all about preserving as left the factory the cars and restoring them. There are a lot of other sites that specialize in street rodding. Don't think you will find many fans of chop & channel here.

[ted sweet]

there are non modfied cars at the syracuse nats.

[MCHinson]

this is a tough crowd if you have replaced the air in your original tires.

Funny, but don't you think that is a bit harsh? We don't care about the air in your tires, but we prefer that the tires be like those that came on the car originally and on the correct wheels.... LOL.

[Shop Rat]

Just wanted to pop in and say hello to everyone now that we are on the message forum. We hope to learn about what people like to see at events and help bring the hobby another step in the RIGHT direction.

Take care.

I took a quick look at your web-site. As others have already stated the AACA is not into Street Rods, Hot Rods, Modifieds, etc. And those style vehicles are not permitted at AACA National shows or in the flea market areas of those shows.

[Steve Moskowitz]

Welcome to the Forun, but this is a tough crowd if you have replaced the air in your original tires.

Bob, it is only a 10 point deduction but I have been selling vintage air for tires for ahwile. It comes by the year and I am out of 1904 and 1910 air. Hope to get some NOS air soon.

[MCHinson]

I am sure that I have some of that 1904 and 1910 air available. Since you are out of it, I guess I can get a premium price for it! :D:D

[R W Burgess]

there are non modfied cars at the syracuse nats.

Very true. As a matter of fact, the Oneita Lake Region of the AACA actually helps work that Syracuse Show. I will also state here as fact, that almost every Custom/Hot Rod show in this country welcomes unmodified cars at their respective shows. You would not stay in business long turing away paying customers.

This is not a street rodder site because it is all about preserving as left the factory the cars and restoring them. There are a lot of other sites that specialize in street rodding. Don't think you will find many fans of chop & channel here.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

This is not entirely true, since our National Meets have a Driver's Class (DPC), which allow for some non-stock components. We also have a race car class, which in most cases, are highly modified cars. The AACA welcomes everyone, even if you own custom/hot rod cars. We feel it's a big challenge to help you see the other side.

"Feel the Force, Luke!" :cool:

Wayne

[R W Burgess]

A documented Race-Car at Hershey:

Edited March 4, 2010 by Steve Moskowitz
corrected the word choice (see edit history)

[Guest windjamer]

Befor joining the AACA I attended one Syr. Nat.and entered my car. I paid my dues and was told I would be in a STOCK class. I may visit again,but I doubt you will ever see my car again. On my left was a Chevelle like mine,only just a weeeeeee bit differant. It had a roll-cage built in and two tanks marked nox. The engine was solid chrome. The one on the right was even more so. Now dont get me wrong, I like hot rods,in fact I would like to own a t-bucket I just dont like them in a stock class. I also like cats and dogs, I just dont mix breed them.

[TG57Roadmaster]

Wayne,

Wouldn't it be wiser to explain that rod's appearance at Hershey because it had a documented race provenance and was shown in the race class? To use the DPC as a catch-all for any modified dreck is not exactly faithful to the class's meaning or usefulness to the many owners who choose to show in it. Below is the certification for DPC; it does not allow for chopped tops, channelled bodies, and tubbed or frenched anything.

Certification will be based on vehicle components that have the same appearance

as when the vehicle was manufactured and the overall condition of the vehicle in general

appears acceptable. The exterior/ interior/engine/chassis components must appear

period correct per the original manufacturer. The following are exceptions that will

not disqualify vehicle: seat belts, seat coverings, turn signals, stop lights, sealed

beam/halogen headlights, radial tires, alloy wheels of the same era and/or same

vehicle manufacturer, radio upgrades, electrical upgrades, brake upgrades (bolt on),

steering upgrades (bolt on), air conditioning, overdrive system and altered exhausts.

Yeah, you can put some chrome zoomie wheels and snazzy crushed velour on the car, but just about everything else is imperceptible. What sticks in my craw from the gitgo of this thread (and the reason till now that I've held my tongue), is the Right aspect of the initial post. Right for whom? For the many of us who struggle daily to maintain and restore our cars to the already-plentiful variety of AACA certifications?

I understand the need for new blood, increased member numbers and all that rot, but it should not be done at the expense of everyone else who joined (and sustains) this club, following its basic tenets of originality. Speaking for myself, on my way to an AACA show,

I'm more than happy to see customs/rods/modifieds, but only where they belong...

In the parking lot.

TG

Edited March 2, 2010 by TG57Roadmaster (see edit history)

[Guest Gary Hearn]

Yeah, you can put some chrome zoomie wheels and snazzy crushed velour on the car, but just about everything else is imperceptible. What sticks in my craw from the gitgo of this thread (and the reason till now that I've held my tongue), is the Right aspect of the initial post. Right for whom? For the many of us who struggle daily to maintain and restore our cars to the already-plentiful variety of AACA certifications?

Are you referring to the use of Right in the thread title or his Forum moniker? If so, I think that is merely a geographical reference (i.e. California is referred to as the Left Coast and NY is on the opposite end of the country on the right side of the map). That's my story and I am sticking to it....

[poci1957]

That was my interpretation also, Left Coast vs Right Coast.

[TG57Roadmaster]

Are you referring to the use of Right in the thread title or his Forum moniker? If so, I think that is merely a geographical reference (i.e. California is referred to as the Left Coast and NY is on the opposite end of the country on the right side of the map). That's my story and I am sticking to it....

As a native Californian, an Angeleno specifically, I'm well aware of the difference between the Left & Right coasts, but thanks anyway for the clarification. What I haven't found between the numerous shows, concours and swap meets attended all over the country is much difference in the mindset of those who modify and those who don't.

So Right versus Left in the context of the types of cars I care about is virtually a non-starter.

TG

[poci1957]

I understand the need for new blood, increased member numbers and all that rot, but it should not be done at the expense of everyone else who joined (and sustains) this club, following its basic tenets of originality. Speaking for myself, on my way to an AACA show,

I'm more than happy to see customs/rods/modifieds, but only where they belong...

In the parking lot.

TG

I am totally with you on this TG

[1937hd45]

That is a an "AACA Certified Race Car"with far more history that a totally restored original IMO. That car won an AACA First Junior after a 2nd place showing at Pebble Beach, it was also an Annual Award nominee in 2009. A full color feature was in a past issue of The Rodders Journal. The owners had a great time at Hershey, I had a nice time chatting with them.

A Hot Rod-Hershey-2009

[TG57Roadmaster]

That is a an "AACA Certified Race Car"with far more history that a totally restored original IMO. That car won an AACA First Junior after a 2nd place showing at Pebble Beach, it was also an Annual Award nominee in 2009. A full color feature was in a past issue of The Rodders Journal. The owners had a great time at Hershey, I had a nice time chatting with them.

That's great, and I'm happy for the owners and congratulate their success, for showing and winning in an appropriate AACA Class.

Wouldn't it be wiser to explain that rod's appearance at Hershey because it had a documented race provenance and was shown in the race class? To use the DPC as a catch-all for any modified dreck is not exactly faithful to the class's meaning or usefulness to the many owners who choose to show in it.

I don't feel there was any disrespect shown towards the car or their efforts, only an attempt to clarify what qualifies for the DPC. Let's not substitute apples when the discussion is oranges. If the "modified dreck" comment was interpreted as aimed at the rod (it was not), then kindly accept my apologies.

Those words were aimed squarely at an attempt to use an overly-broad brush to paint a picture that doesn't exist. "Here's a rod at Hershey," the implication, out of context, then, that all rods must be welcome, because of the DPC. My point was made and I stand by it.

This club is, by its nature, mission, and purpose, set down years ago, ammended as needed, exclusive. Let's not pretend that's a dirty word, just accept it for what it is. Yet that exclusivity reaches a very broad audience precisely by its inclusion of so many types of vehicles; I think only a unicycle doesn't qualify (unless someone provides proof of a production motorized unicycle). Add one wheel, and does that mean in 25 years (from their intro) that Segways will have their own AACA Class? Time will tell, as it is a motorized people propellent; let's cross that bridge when we get to it.

As for any car's historical importance, more or less, that observation is totally subjective, open to personal interpretation. To say to this group that one is better than any other, more qualified or deserving, well, that's a very sour apple that I'd have to spit out.

Unless, of course, you can find an AACA Class for it.

TG

[joe_padavano]

As a native Californian, an Angeleno specifically, I'm well aware of the difference between the Left & Right coasts, but thanks anyway for the clarification. What I haven't found between the numerous shows, concours and swap meets attended all over the country is much difference in the mindset of those who modify and those who don't.

So Right versus Left in the context of the types of cars I care about is virtually a non-starter.

TG

The name of the organization that puts on the shows is Right Coast Association, since they put on several shows on the East Coast. As for "mindset", sorry, but I don't agree. I have a number of cars, some modified and some totally stock. I can appreciate both camps.

Edited March 4, 2010 by joe_padavano
Typo (see edit history)

[ted sweet]

i am confused, since they are no classes at this show.

Befor joining the AACA I attended one Syr. Nat.and entered my car. I paid my dues and was told I would be in a STOCK class. I may visit again,but I doubt you will ever see my car again. On my left was a Chevelle like mine,only just a weeeeeee bit differant. It had a roll-cage built in and two tanks marked nox. The engine was solid chrome. The one on the right was even more so. Now dont get me wrong, I like hot rods,in fact I would like to own a t-bucket I just dont like them in a stock class. I also like cats and dogs, I just dont mix breed them.

[R W Burgess]

Here's a link to their web site below. From the pictures shown on their web site, I see a few stock looking antique cars, except maybe for the wheels. They look very much like our DPC class entries.

Right Coast Cars - East Coast Car Shows, Syracuse Nationals

Wayne

[joe_padavano]

i am confused, since they are no classes at this show.

I'm wondering why anyone would go to a show like that looking for trophies. These shows are more of a weekend-long cruise-in.