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I don't know what this first one is, any ideas?

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I don't know what this first one is, any ideas?

I wouldn't hazard a guess, Lou, but I'm willing to bet that it put a horse out of a job! Thanx for these images of some really rare stuff from the dawn of automotive time.

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Fourth photo down, the plump gentleman in the rear seat is Gottlieb Daimler*; I believe the lad at the controls is his son.

(* as in "Daimler-Benz" ;) )

I don't know what this first one is, any ideas?

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I think the "steam tractor / buggy" that Frank is refering to is made from Model K Ford steering column and front end with Model B Ford engine. It is Henry Ford's early farm tractor.

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I think the "steam tractor / buggy" that Frank is refering to is made from Model K Ford steering column and front end with Model B Ford engine. It is Henry Ford's early farm tractor.

I have seen pictures of Henry Ford sitting on this before. I belive it is gas powered and the tank is actually the water cooling tower. Dandy Dave!

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Actually, here is Henry Fords first Tractor. No water tower like the tractor pictured but very similar in design.

Fordson Photo

Fordson Photo

Dandy Dave!

Okay, I've seen these photos before... a long, long time ago.

Looks like they mounted the Model T (?) engine in a transverse manner... if Fordsons were known for "rearing-up" on their hind wheels, I wonder if this machine was even worse ?

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If the photos date from 1907, I would think it is more reminisant of an R, N, or S motor. Looks too small for a K motor, which was a 6 cylinder. The fordson "F" Built from 1916-1927, was a lot more powerful. These tractor were notorious for back flipping, as the drawbar is very close to the rearend housing and will not touch the ground in a rear-up. If the wheels caught the ground and stopped, the worm drive would climb the gear and flip the tractor. A lot of farmers were killed on the early Fordson tractors. I have had 3 or 4 "F" models though the years. Dandy Dave!

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As I said before a Model B engine, that is the 1904 4 cylinder, a rare bird.

Ey ey Captian. I believe you are correct, as the engine looks to big for an N,S or R. :cool: Dandy Dave!

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The car with Gottlieb Daimler on board looks to be the original Daimler car of 1886.

The wire wheel car below it is a Benz Velo I think - Benz's first 'small' car!

The 'dos-a-dos' Panhard pic dates from about 1891. These early Panhards had gears but not in a box! This wwas the first car to use the 'Panhard system' as most later cars did with an engine in front, gearbox behind and final drive behind that. The Daimler Phoenix engine has hot tube ignition and takes quite a long time to start from cold. The last one - the rear-engined 'vis-a-vis' might be a DeDion-Bouton from about 1899.

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Look at the size of the front hubs on the first one - plain bearings for sure! I am guessing it is an electric.

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Hi,,No 2 and 6 are Panhards,,and the gentleman w/gotee behind #6 is Hon Evelyn Ellis,,early English motoring pioneer who drove when it was illeagal,,He converted one of these early Panhards to a firepump for his estate,,Ref,Badmitton Library/sports/motoring,1902,,,Cheers,,Ben

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The 1st car looked so familiar to me. I used to collect 1:43 scale cars when I was a kid and have this model. It is an 1898 Hautier Electric taxi....the miniature was done by Rami.

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