39BuickEight Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I will soon be putting the rear-end back under the car (the frame is all sandblasted and primed and painted, now working to blast the rear-end suspension parts) and I need some parts to seal up my torque tube/torque ball (not sure of the proper term) area. Where is the best place to buy a gasket/kit for this?I don't see anything from Kanter, and I found this:http://www.oldbuickparts.com/cat360/36005.pdfbut it says all except 1939 Special I also need the funny looking fat lopsided bolt that goes thru the frame and holds it in place (see below). I only need the one for that side. Sorry for my explanation of it, but those of you who know these cars surely know what I am talking about.There was plenty of oil in the tube and it all feels really smooth, so I think I just need all the rubber parts and the bolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danhar1960 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 G'Day BillyBob's Automobila will have all you need (Boots, mounts and gaskets).I'd replace both those mounts. It's important that they are in good condition to avoid horrible drive train problems. Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted January 25, 2010 Author Share Posted January 25, 2010 G'Day BillyBob's Automobila will have all you need (Boots, mounts and gaskets).I'd replace both those mounts. It's important that they are in good condition to avoid horrible drive train problems. Dannythanks for the quick reply! I will replace both mounts--but I am having trouble finding the bolt for the one side. It looks like Bob's and oldbuickparts.com are combining? The 2 sites are both partly down right now and one links to the other in some cases.Bob's shows a listing where you send your brackets in and they "vulcanize" the rubber into the mounts for $130 or so. That seems awfully high for 2 pcs. of rubber. What does "vulcanize" mean? Can you not just buy the rubber and put it in the mounts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1939_Buick Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 What does "vulcanize" mean? Can you not just buy the rubber and put it in the mounts?Bond to the steel brackets. Natural rubber cannot be easly joined to steel with adhesive (glue) Vulcanization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 Does the torque ball seal need to be vulcanized? On pg. 41 , Bob's sells one that is, but oldbuickparts.com sells one that is not (NOS part) and they said it doesn't need to be....unless I am looking at something wrong, which is entirely possible.and I found the bolt! Yippee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynaflash8 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 The rubber covered torque ball must be vulcanized. Same is true of the torque ball mount. Have you tried Steele Rubber for the torque ball mounts. If you can't find that torque ball mount bolt, I can probably help you. I would have to look to be sure, but I think I have extras. There is also a thick washer that goes with the bolt. Not sure if I have extras of that. If you need cores, I might also have some old cores of the torque ball mounts. I never throw anything away. The day may come when somebody can rebuild this stuff. I have a box full of used voltage regulators for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 (edited) The rubber covered torque ball must be vulcanized. Same is true of the torque ball mount. Have you tried Steele Rubber for the torque ball mounts. If you can't find that torque ball mount bolt, I can probably help you. I would have to look to be sure, but I think I have extras. There is also a thick washer that goes with the bolt. Not sure if I have extras of that. If you need cores, I might also have some old cores of the torque ball mounts. I never throw anything away. The day may come when somebody can rebuild this stuff. I have a box full of used voltage regulators for instance.This is what I have:I do have the other washer too. I need just the broken long stud (which I have found). The hard part will be getting that old nut off to ut on the new stud.Steele says the torque boot doesn't need to be vulcanized. I am totally lost on this part now. Edited February 4, 2010 by 39BuickEight (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danhar1960 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 The nuts on those should be vulcanized into the mounts.Maybe a local machine shop could turn up a new set of adjusting screws and lock nuts. They are not very complicated.Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly_John Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Billy, you state you are "completely lost" on some of this rear mount and torque ball tube stuff. Do you have a 1938 Buick shop manual and the 1939 Buick supplement? Lots of what you are trying to get squared away is covered in these manuals. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1939_Buick Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 The 1942 Shop manual is very good. A lot more information than the 1938 & the 39 supplement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 Billy, you state you are "completely lost" on some of this rear mount and torque ball tube stuff. Do you have a 1938 Buick shop manual and the 1939 Buick supplement? Lots of what you are trying to get squared away is covered in these manuals. Johnactually I do, but I was working on ordering these parts today without the book--sorry about thatMy main question arose because 2 different parts places gave me 2 different answers...and they both seem confident when I told them what the other said.I am sending off the mount for sure, but I'm still confused about the boot. Thanks for all the help everyone--I do really appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critterpainter Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 First Bobs Automobilia and Cars are two Independant companys. Both web sites happened to be down at the same time. Bobs usually has the rebuilt torque mounts in stock, but you have to remove the bolts first. Bobs also usually has the rebuilt torque ball in stock too. That also needs a good core. And they also have the rubber boot in stock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 First Bobs Automobilia and Cars are two Independant companys. Both web sites happened to be down at the same time. Bobs usually has the rebuilt torque mounts in stock, but you have to remove the bolts first.Bobs also usually has the rebuilt torque ball in stock too. That also needs a good core.And they also have the rubber boot in stock!thank you!Dad and I were busy setting up the new blasting cabinet this weekend.Any idea if I need to blast the core mounts or just send them in as is? I'll call them and ask too I suppose, just thought I'd ask here while I was typing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critterpainter Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 The 42 shop manual is useless for the 39 torque ball assembly as it was only used in 1939! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 39convertible Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Allanwhat can you find about the 39´s in the 42 shop manual ?just curiousJanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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