twin6 1,194 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Way before there was road rage, these were concocted and for a much different reason. Apparently, the Cadillac was outfitted for the Guatemalan army. Interestingly, there appears to be a NY dealer or manufacturer plate on it. And the Franklin was, if you can decipher the text at the top, used for controlling strikes perhaps (?). For you restorers bent on 100% authenticity, "please don't try this at home!" Link to post Share on other sites
DeSoto Frank 1 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 (edited) Let's start the morning with the tow to beat all tow tucks back in that time...... none other than Big Bertha. Is this a custom built truck? Or can you identify the brand? Really study it...... This is quite a truck. Photo from 1940Sheesh. "Garbage wagon" is more like it, with all those lights and everything glommed on there ! Is that a DELCO lighting plant on the splash apron in front of the driver's door ?The 1940's version of "Wrecked". Okay, to get serious for a minute.... I think the tow-wagon is built on a GMC cab & chassis. ( The Budd wheels definitely look like those used by GMC in the 1930's and early '40s).The grille-guard is home-made, the headlights look like they were cabbaged off a La France fire-engine.I think it is a custom creation, perhaps built from several wreckers / car- carriers.Surprised they didn't go with a tandem axle in the back for more load capacity.I'll bet it took a real "gorilla" to drive this rig ! On the hook is a 1934-'37 International C-series truck, probably a C-35.Way in the background is a '33 Plymouth.To the right of Big Bertha, the other wrecker appears to be equipped with a Manley Wrecking Crane (hand-cranked), made in York, PA. Used to have one myself.Looks like this caravan is parked at home-base, waiting for orders.Neat photo ! Up this way (Scranton, PA), on route US 6, in Dickson City, there is Johnson's Towing, who have (had) a HUGE Autocar wrecker, with TWO steering axles up front (tandem, just like rear axles).They also have a wrecker built on a ex GI 6x6. Edited February 4, 2010 by DeSoto Frank (see edit history) Link to post Share on other sites
MochetVelo 409 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 To get First Junior, machine gun must be operational!Phil Link to post Share on other sites
DizzyDale 0 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Hey Phil,THANKS for the laff.diz Link to post Share on other sites
1937hd45 3,266 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Hi caliber automobiles. Link to post Share on other sites
DeSoto Frank 1 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Way before there was road rage, these were concocted and for a much different reason. Apparently, the Cadillac was outfitted for the Guatemalan army. Interestingly, there appears to be a NY dealer or manufacturer plate on it. And the Franklin was, if you can decipher the text at the top, used for controlling strikes perhaps (?). For you restorers bent on 100% authenticity, "please don't try this at home!"Any idea where the photo of the Caddy was taken ? ( It's wearing chains, and looks to be in snow.... anybody recognize that capitol building ?) Link to post Share on other sites
SIRAACA_Editor 17 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I wrote about that Cadillac on post #58 of the original Period Photo Thread. Here's the article from the New York Times describing the car:"AUTOMATIC GUNS ON MOTORCARS""Value of Autos in War Shown in Test of Cadillac Machines for Guatemala""Judged by an interesting experiment yesterday, the automobile is destined to play an important part in the petty wars of South America. At the request of the President of the Guatemala Republic, that country's Consul General at New York, together with representatives of Colt's small arms factory, inspected the new Cadillac gun cars in a test of the Colt auto gun and field wireless, with which these cars are equipped.""The tests were made at the Government proving grounds at Eagle Rock, N.J., and proved successful in every particular. The automatic gun discharged bullets at the speed of 450 a minute, while mounted on the rear of the car, with very little vibration, while the field wireless equipment was tested between two stations erected near two telescope poles, each forty-five feet in height. This was worked for some time without interruption.""The experiment was the outcome of an order from the Republic of Guatemala that followed the tour of the gun cars of the Northwest Military Academy last Fall. While the cars were in New York, they attracted the attention of the Guatemalan Consul General, and an order for two was placed with the Cadillac Company. With the completion of the machines, Supt. of Service William McIlrid and Sales Manager J.H. Johnson of the Cadillac Motor Company invited the Guatemalan officials and Colt representatives to inspect the workings of the gun and wireless outfit. These, together with several other interested persons, left Columbus Circle at noon yesterday, and were driven in the two cars to Eagle Rock, where the testing was held.""The cars are somewhat on the order of the runabout, with two seats on the front for the drivers and two seats in the rear. The latter are reached by a door opening in the back of the car, as in an opera 'bus. The guns were mounted on structures resembling gun carriages. It was from these that the shots were fired at the rate of 450 a minute. The target was placed at a considerable distance from the cars, but the average number of hits was considered unusually good.""In a box under the seat an entire wireless outfit is held, ready for use. After the successful gun experiments, the boxes were opened and the wireless equipment erected. The telescope poles were placed several hundred feet apart, but the connection was speedily effected and the two operators "talked" over wireless current for some time.""On the return journey to the city a searchlight, which is carried on each gun car, was used, and threw a brilliant flash about 100 yards. This is intended for use in connection with the gun car.""The experiment was a novel and interesting one, and met all the requirements of the contract. The gun cars will be shipped to Guatemala some time this week." Link to post Share on other sites
stevep516 38 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 This photo is of a Piedmont, produced by the Piedmont Motor Car Co. between 1917 and 1922. An interesting note, in the background is the Smith Mountain Gorge where AEP completed the hydro-electric dam in 1962 creating what is now Smith Mountain Lake in Central Va. Link to post Share on other sites
keiser31 5,997 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 That car sure looks like a Model T. Link to post Share on other sites
stevep516 38 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 You could correct about the Model T. The photograph is hard to see and I'm going by the inscription on the back of the photo identifying the brothers and the car Link to post Share on other sites
oldford 178 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 The second photo looks like a 1911 Ford Torpedo...Frank Link to post Share on other sites
Hupp36 140 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Well, we made it to the top. Will the 2 wheel brakes get us to the bottom? Link to post Share on other sites
Layden B 161 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Second one looks more like a Flanders to me. Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Gariepy 1,389 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Anyone have more information on this vehicle? Pretty unique! Link to post Share on other sites
AACA Library 173 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Canvas + old car + strong will = camping fun!-Chris Link to post Share on other sites
Manuel 6 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 No 3 is the only one I can't ID.1 is a Dodge2 a jazzed up Model T Fordand last is a Willys Link to post Share on other sites
Manuel 6 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 I have seen this one before. It was in a group of pics put up I think. Can't remember but there were lots of comment on the hats.Manuel in Oz Link to post Share on other sites
Manuel 6 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Second pic right hand car may be a 1935 or 36 Ford.Manuel in Oz Link to post Share on other sites
Manuel 6 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Model A Ford stopped for a drink.Manuel in Oz Link to post Share on other sites
keiser31 5,997 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 (edited) I have seen this one before. It was in a group of pics put up I think. Can't remember but there were lots of comment on the hats.Manuel in OzYes...I have posted this photo before. I just wanted to add it to Thead's thread. Edited February 12, 2010 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to post Share on other sites
1937hd45 3,266 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 I had hoped to add to the collection once I had upgraded my camera, but now that it is overorganized I see no point in posting. Link to post Share on other sites
MCHinson 4,050 Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 But the good news is even though the pothole is slightly larger than the driver expected, pull it out and the Model A is still as good as new and can continue driving down the beach. Link to post Share on other sites
DeSoto Frank 1 Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 The wreck on the right might be a Model T "Landaulet" - a "Formal T" that was discontinued by WW I. Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Gariepy 1,389 Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 ITS BACK!Sorry for the delay. More work than anticipated. Will post more details in the Period Photos forum shortly. Link to post Share on other sites
F&J 835 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I never knew about these later Peerless cars. I love the Darth Vader look being black and a lack of ornamentation. Very classy car in a very classy era. Link to post Share on other sites
F&J 835 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Amelia Earhart with a 37 Cord and her 37? Electra...The 30's era was such a class act....and even the name Electra has that special ring to it. Link to post Share on other sites
Docc 11 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Howard Lee Griswold (1878-1955) built the automobile shown in this photograph for the president of the Columbus Railway, Power and Light Company in the early 1900s. Griswold is seated in front with his wife Cora (1884-1949). This early example of a homemade machine shows the conversion of a large farm wagon body with wheels propelled by a belt and flywheels.Howard Lee Griswold completed correspondence courses in electrical and mechanical engineering from International Correspondence Schools in Scranton, Pennsylvania. Link to post Share on other sites
Docc 11 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Stearns Touring Link to post Share on other sites
Docc 11 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Algonquin IL Hill climb 1908 Link to post Share on other sites
Docc 11 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 1928 Chicago Link to post Share on other sites
Docc 11 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 1926 Chicago Auto Show Link to post Share on other sites
Docc 11 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Pikes Peak 1913 Link to post Share on other sites
Docc 11 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 1938 Phantom Corsair Link to post Share on other sites
Docc 11 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Anyone guess? Link to post Share on other sites
Docc 11 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) 1938 Phantom Corsair..n 1937 Bohman and Schwartz also undertook their most famous (and beautiful) creation, the building of a futuristic shark-like body designed by H.J. Heinz’ son, Rust Heinz, and placed on a custom-built 1936 Cord 810 chassis. Called the Phantom Corsair, it later appeared in the 1938 David O. Selznick movie “Young In Heart” as the mysterious Flying Wombat automobile. It was purchased in 1947 by car collector Richard Rush for $5,000. Rush sold it to Los Angeles radio and television personality Herb Shriner in 1951. Shriner had the car repainted and modified to allow better cooling for its Cord powerplant, but the results were not very pleasing to the eye. William Harrah purchased it in the 1960s and had the car restored back to its original state and it currently resides in the National Automobile Museum (The former Harrah Collection) in Reno, Nevada. Edited February 11, 2010 by Docc (see edit history) Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy Dave 842 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 There were over 50 pages before. What happend??? And my comments have been deleted. :confused: Dandy Dave! Link to post Share on other sites
F&J 835 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Tennesee Police armored car. Looks to be a 34/35 Buick. Link to post Share on other sites
keiser31 5,997 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Tennesee Police armored car. Looks to be a 34/35 Buick.Followed up by a 1935 Plymouth. Link to post Share on other sites
E Montaut 10 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Link to post Share on other sites
E Montaut 10 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) <img src=http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/hec/15000/15004r.jpg><img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/leadpoisoned/cars/aad-8095.jpg?t=1265944274>Franklins Edited February 12, 2010 by E Montaut (see edit history) Link to post Share on other sites
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