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Joe, right now it is on a 15 amp, 110v circuit in the garage.  I am waiting on special adapters to the charging module to charge at higher rates.  If I just need it topped off so to speak I will charge it in the house garate with a 20 amp, 110v circuit.  If I need a faster charge I have a 30 amp, 220v connector in the new garage. I plan on putting a 50 amp, 220v circuit in the new garage at some point.

 

Here is a chart showing the various charge rates.

 

 

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And if you are travelling then you can stop at a Tesla Supercharger station and fill up.  It is much faster than the at home rates.

 

Per the web, Tesla supercharging stations charge with up to 145 kW of power distributed between two cars with a maximum of 120 kW per car. They take about 20 minutes to charge to 50%, 40 minutes to charge to 80%, and 75 minutes to 100% on the original 85 kwh Model S.

 

Our car has a dual charging system and I think it can charge even faster.  

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I understand that high-rate charging shortens battery life. Is that correct?

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Per Tesla, yes and no.  If you only use a Supercharger the car itself will restrict voltage going to the batteries resulting in a slower than normal charge.  But you have to go thru over 200 capacity to do that.  The computers in the car attempt to protect the battery pack of over 7,000 individual cells.  Here is the article.

 

https://electrek.co/2017/05/07/tesla-limits-supercharging-speed-number-charges/

 

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Very nice! I've never been in an all electric car. I would think the quiet would seem a bit odd. I assume that charging on 220v would be quicker?

 

Posted this before the above showed up!

 

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And you can exchange a bad or weak battery in 90 seconds.  I have no idea  as to cost.  Pretty slick.  

 

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Back to the old car world.  It is Sunday, January 28th.  Our neighbor, Geoff, is having his wife's grandfathers 1928 Ford Model A restored, frame off.  It is about done so asked him to send a couple of pictures.  He hopes to have it home before the summer driving season starts.  The restoration has been supervised by a AACA judge to ensure that everything is correct.  I am trying to convince him to show it at Hershey in October.  Here are the pics he sent me.

 

 

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Model A looks nice, and what a nice building.  An AACA judge will assure it does well in an AACA meet, but he really needs someone familiar with MARC (Model A Restorers Club) standards to have the car really correct.

 

Can't wait to come visit and see the Tesla, that's neat!

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David, re the Tesla.  It is really a nice car.  Fit and finish are excellent, and they had really only started producing them in June of 2012.  Mine is 19, 641 off the line.  I just need to add a better charging circuit to the new garage to use it every day.  A 50 amp outlet will take me from 4 miles per hour charging to 30.  I can live with that.  

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Do you have Hagerty insurance?  They put out a nice little magazine now, Jay Leno is a guest columnist. He seems to like the Tesla!

 

Also a great article in there about the Bullitt Mustang, that the same family has had hidden for 50 years.....img001.thumb.jpg.40b42e0f65074c7e7888ae8c011c0f5f.jpg

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David, a good article.  I am with JC Taylor, but I have never had a claim.

 

Speaking of insurance, my modern insurance company totaled the 2002 Trailblazer.  Today we settled on $3,400.  I am happy with that.  I doubt I could have gotten that price if I sold it retail and all fixed back up.  

 

The Trailblazer did right by us.  185,00 miles and fourteen years of ownership.  We had some great times.  It pulled the 1923 and 28 Buicks to Canada at least ten times as well as many other places.  Never a breakdown on the road.  I will miss the old girl.  

 

They are coming to pick it up sometime next week.  

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I have been hauling and towing with the 2003 Chevrolet Suburban LT 2500.  Pulls like a champ.  Never an issue pulling an enclosed trailer and car.  Get 10 mpg loaded or unloaded, go figure.

 

 

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It is Wednesday, January 31st.  Bill (a neighbor) wanted to head into Washington DC for its annual auto show.  So this morning we jumped into the Tesla with a full tank of electricity.  I was my impression that Chevrolet had the most beautiful paint work on its vehicles; and Ford and VW cars looked somewhat dated.  KIA was a big surprise, and the nicest little convertible was the Fiat Spider.  Here are the pics I took.  I was surprised not to see many concept cars that gave me the "wow" factor.

 

 

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Was at a regular public day? there is almost nobody! If the Geneva how would be the same with the public, I would go every year...For 10 days, there are more or less 600'000 visitors!

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Roger, just a regular week day.  Not many people early, but by the time we left there were quite a few more, but certainly not crowded.  With the old geezer discount only paid $8 to get in.  Bill picked up lunch and parking so it was almost like a free day.  There were lots of beautiful new cars.  Made my brain swim for sure.  It was quite a shocker to find out that to replace my 2003 Suburban with like equipment the cost would be over $80,000.  I would probably get a extended pickup that has four doors for $60,000.   And I would never, ever buy new.  

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Thursday morning, February 1st.  It sure feels really cold outside, but it is 34 degrees. 

 

A quick Tesla power report.  I got my two power adapters from Tesla yesterday, a 220 volt three prong dryer adapter and a 110 20 amp adapter.  The dryer adapter is what I have in the new garage for the welder and air compressor, the 110 adapter will go in the house garage in place of the 15 amp outlet I have in there now. 

 

This morning I moved the car by the new garage, the donkeys did not seem to mind, went over and sniffed it and then walked away.  I connected the controller to the dryer/220 volt connection and it went green, which is good.  Then connected it to the car.  The car lapped the electricity up.  So now I am getting 20 miles per hour charge rate versus 4 miles per hour in the house.  The car now says that it will be at full charge in 5 hours versus over 24 hours for the house garage.

 

If I change the 220 volt breaker from 20 to 30 amps I think the charge will go up to 23 miles per hour or better.  I will do that swap tomorrow.  Now I have to run out and change the 15 amp house outlet to the 20 amp.  I think it will give me 6 miles per hour charge.  Good enough for topping off over night.  When I get the 4 prong 50 amp RV circuit installed in the next couple of weeks then the charge rate will go up to 30 miles per hour of charging.  That is the max I can go with this Tesla Mobile Connector.  If I want to opt for a Tesla Wall Controller for $400 then I can charge at an even higher rate.  That is a future option for right now.  

 

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It was a sad day yesterday.  The 2002 Trailblazer left the farm for good.  Hope that someone buys it at auction and returns it to the road at some point.  

 

The donkeys were interested in the Tesla when I brought it over for a quick charge.  After figuring they could not eat it, they left it alone, which is a good thing.

 

 

 

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It is Saturday, February 10th.  I wish I had more to report, but I have been doing very little on the old cars.  They are asleep for winter.  But Brownie, the 1979 Chevy van, has a bad starter.  The solenoid clicks, but the starter motor does not spin.  Cleaned the battery connections, but sill no go.  So I ordered a new one from Amazon for less than $60.  Never have replaced a starter in her so the original lasted all these years and 165,000 or so miles. 

 

Also put in new plastic/fibre gears for the house garage door opener.  The repair kit was only $16.  Now I have a working garage door again.  Only 23 years old too.   

 

 

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John, do you have any kind of meter that tells you how much electricity you're using for charging the Tesla?  I realize it's kinda like asking a Duesenberg owner whether he gets good gas mileage, it's really not the point of ownership, but it would be interesting to know that you spend X per mile on electricity versus Y per mile on gasoline.

 

Your reporting of tasks done reminds me that retirement isn't always leisure time!  I wake up every morning, make a task list for the day, and there never seems to be a shortage of things to get done!

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David, re the charging rate for the Tesla Model S.  The car displays a charging rate while it is charging, but not a running total.   Cost to charge depends on how depleted your batteries are and the cost of power from your utility company.  

 

Here is a general rule.  The average cost of electricity in the US is 12 cents per kWh. Therefore, the average person driving the average EV 15,000 miles per year pays about $540.00 per year to charge it. Tesla Model S charging.

 

According to Researchers at the University of Michigan Transportation Research Institute, the sales-weighted average fuel economy of all new vehicles sold in the United States in 2016 was 25.3 mpg. The average cost for a gallon of regular gasoline in the US over the past two years was $2.35/gallon. Using 15,000 miles as the average amount of miles a person will drive in a year, the annual cost of gasoline for the average car will be about $1,400 per year, using the average cost of gasoline in the US from 2015 through 2016. One thing to also consider is that the cost of gasoline is currently much lower than it has been through most the past decade and it’s likely to rise again sometime soon.

 

I figure that I will drive about 3,000 miles per year and figure that my cost will be about $100 or so for house electricity.  Remember also that if I use a Tesla Supercharger on a trip it is free to me.  

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I was wondering how the Supercharger program works, Mr. Goggle explained it to me:  (from the Tesla site)

 

Annual Roadtrip Credits

Each year, Model S and Model X owners receive 400 kWh of free Supercharger credit, enough to drive about 1,000 miles. These credits cover the long distance driving needs of most Model S and Model X owners, so road trips are completely free. Customers who travel beyond the annual credit pay a small fee to Supercharge—only a fraction of the cost of gas.

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$90

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After the annual Supercharger credit

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Charging costs are approximate. Charging cost estimate assumes Supercharger cost of $0.20 per kilowatt hour. Gasoline cost assumes 21 MPG at $2.73 per gallon. Cost may vary depending on the vehicle location, configuration, battery age and condition, driving style and operation, and environmental and climate conditions.

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David, I get unlimited Tesla Supercharger use for the life of the car not just 1,000 miles worth.  At the time of my build Supercharging for life was a big incentive for buyers.  This is one reason the early Model S are so popular as used cars as the Supercharger for life goes with the car, no matter how many new owners. 

 

I have seen some Model S used car sales in the $38K range for the 60KW battery, 85KW batteries seem to be in the $45 to 50K, and the newer 90/100 are in the $60s.  2012 was the first year of the Model S.  The D (dual motor) model S commands a higher price, but not much for a all-drive car.  

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Wow, I don't see how they come out on the "every owner's life" so to speak!  At some point someone has to pay the electrical bill!  But that's a great selling point, particularly if you're going to travel the routes of the chargers...

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March 1st.  Been a while since I have posted.  Just not much going on in the lull of winter.  

 

But Brownie, the 1979 Chevy van, has a broken starter.  Solenoid clicks, but does not engage the starter.  So I ordered a new one, and guess what, it does not fit.  So I am waiting for a second one to arrive.  This is the van's original starter also, lasted 39 years so cannot complain.

 

We are expecting a big wind storm tonight and tomorrow.  Sustained winds of 25 to 30, and gusts up to 60 mph.  Going to last almost 24 hours.  So we are moving everything inside.  Oh no, the BMW Z4 is outside.  Well, it is a little on the small side so put it under the van.  Not for the faint of heart.  Should be just fine.

 

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It is Friday, March 2nd.  We are in one heck of a wind storm.  Started at 3 AM this morning.  Been blowing from 45 to 70 mph all day.  Power and the phone land line went poof at 7 AM.  We have a whole house generator and that kicked right in.  So we have been on generator power all day so far.  Reports indicate that over 400,000 homes and businesses are without power.  Entire towns are without power and hospitals are on back-up generators and are not admitting anyone except emergencies.  Lots and lots of trees downs and junk is blowing all around.  So far we are good, but we have lost a few trees.  Nothing major.  One tree gave a glancing blow to the llama's run in shed, all the others were in the pasture or over access roads.  One tree went over the driveway, but Alice and I cleared it with the tractor, and push it back over the fence and repaired the fence line.

 

It is suppose to blow all night and into tomorrow with sustained winds of 45 to 60 mph, so we are not out of the woods quite yet.  Another 24 hours to go.  Here are a couple of pics.

 

 

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