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I've sat back for awhile watching this thread progress.

To identify the rarest Buicks is easy, just go directly to production numbers.

If we are going to talk rarest existing vehicles the answer is not so easy.

Let me throw this one in for discussion!!

It's owned by a friend of mine and he bought it from a museum in the USA which was closing down a number of years ago.

It's a 1958 Century model 66R 2 door Riviera. The books I have tell me 8,110 units the same as this were built in 1958, rare but certainly not the rarest of them all.

BUT, this car was ordered direct from the factory by the museum and had never been registered or used. This is a new 1958 Century. Several years ago my friend who is in his late 70's decided he wanted to drive a new 1958 Century so carefully went through the car and had it registered. I think the car now has something like 140 miles on it and probably won't do anymore!!!

So how rare is that, a 1958 Century coupe with 140 original miles.

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I've got a couple of rare ones. Mimi, the '42 pick-up, is the only one ever built at the factory. I have a '39 model 61-A with the Sunshine Turret Top, only one I've ever found in the Century series, except for the parts car that I sold a couple of months ago. I have a '42 model 44-C, as far as I can tell, only 4 known, and one of them is now a street rod, which I used to own also, and at that time, I owned 1/2 of the total inventory. It made the cover of Rod and Custom, it's beautiful. And finally, a '42 model 46-S, Black Out model, again, the only one that I know of. If there are any more out there, I'd like to converse with the owner. Oops, almost forgot, I have a Canadian '42 model 41, I only know of one other. Thats it, I think, Paul

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To identify the rarest Buicks is easy, just go directly to production numbers.

You hit the nail on the head. Happily, Dave Corbin has been able to do that for us.

I would argue that the word rare (like original) is tossed around incorrectly, rather than having evolved. For instance, the compound carburetion for 1941 is almost always described as "rare", yet it was standard on all lines but the Special, and was available on the Special - between the SE and SSE models, as well as the others that were equipped with it, likely most Specials had this, making the single carburetor a rarer item.

For those cars, where driveline / option numbers can be attributed (frankly, I know of none other than muscle cars and newer), yes you can drill down. Like Ewing suggested, there are always ways to make it one of one (hey, this is the only one with VIN ##########!) :rolleyes: I have never cared for knowing this was the only white car with purple interior with the X engine, so long as others of the model have white with purple interior with other engines or others have X engine with different colour combinations. Needless to say, going beyond production numbers gets into dispute between what can be verified and how many folks care.

Granted, I am interested in certain things...like the Texas Triumviates Wildcat - it is a rare driveline combination in a convertible package. You may never see another one. However, I don't care so much about the rarity of the colour or interior, unless it happens to be something I fall in love with (which is rather unlikely).

Anyway, I should stop blathering now.

That '58 is an incredible story and find. I'd almost be afraid to own that.

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To identify the rarest Buicks is easy, just go directly to production numbers.

You hit the nail on the head. Happily, Dave Corbin has been able to do that for us.

You can do that for those cars that were properly recorded. That's why I said my 82 GN was one to provoke lively discussion. They only recorded the 82 GN's as 215 built since they were all to have a 4.2L normally aspirated motor. Research with Buick revealed they had no idea the turbocharged cars were ever built, because they were not supposed to build them. It would be nice to have a definitive number for these factory "mistakes", but that will never happen unless somebody at Buick recorded the numbers and we just never found that right person.

Or do we not count because we weren't counted originally. :confused: Oh the shame of being an un-documented vehicle from the factory. :(:rolleyes:

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Or do we not count because we weren't counted originally. :confused: Oh the shame of being an un-documented vehicle from the factory. :(:rolleyes:

Chuckle.

I guess that is sort of what I've been trying to get at...for most years, we can't drill down because there are no records beyond production numbers for a model. Similarly with "mistakes" like your car or some of the controversial topics (like dual quads on certain years / models).

That brings up additional questions...like whether or not you could "prove" to a judging team that your car is correct if the factory documentation doesn't support it. Of course that isn't a topic I'd like to delve into....

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Derek,

Only 1 comment about your last post, last paragraph------ CHICKEN !!!!!! LOL

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It seems like this is more like bragging rights on each one's individual cars and it's good to brag when you are proud of what you are driving.

As every year passes every car owned in this club and every other club becomes more rare. I think rather than use production numbers we should consider how many cars of each year that are left to really tell what is rare.

I agree with Thriller as to not really caring about colour or options on a car and mostly I don't care if the car is rare as long as it is mine and I'm proud to drive it and people notice it. The general public and a good share of car club members can't tell the difference between models unless they own one.

Mine is a '72 Electra Limited 2 door and I know 4 other members have one. They probably won't win any prizes but they are go anywhere on the highway type of cars and people always notice them because they are big, try parking one in an underground garage today. So rare to me is having anything other than an egg shaped, bubble top, half plastic piece of junk the government is trying to make us buy today.

Dan

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You guys haven't seen a rare Buick until you've seen a 1965 Wildcat Hearse/ambulance.

A long time ago, I once owned a '65 Wildcat Model #6269 Hearse/Ambulance. This was a Flxible Combination model that could be used as a combination ambulance or a hearse. I used this Wildcat as a daily driver. It was originally used as a rescue vehicle in a small town in Northern Illinois. The nice part of this Buick was that the wheelbase was not lengthened, so I was able to park the car in tight parking spaces.

A photo of this model can be found in "70 Years of Buick." The book also explains that this model was one of the last Combination vehicles built by Flxible. I sold it to a guy in the Chicagoland area around 1981.

I have yet to see another model like this, so I would speculate that just a few were built. Does anyone know how many of this model were built?

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Dan,

I agree with you that the thread should be more about rare cars than rare colors & options; and more about cars surviving than cars produced.

My guesses as to the rarest Buicks are any 1904, and a 1981 Reatta. I once read that there are no surviving 1904's, though that seems improbable.

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Dear Jeff:

There were 37 1904 model B's built. For a long while, it was thought that none did survive. However, enough bits and pieces did survive and a lot of restoration work has managed to bring the number from zero to 2. One is owned by a BCA member in California and volunteers are working on the second in Flint.

Regards, Dave Corbin

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Dear AK Buickman:

There's a very good book about Flxble with production figures available by Robert Ebert. A "must have" book if you have a Buick with a Flxble conversion.

Regards, Dave Corbin

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I believe I know which 1965 Wildcat Hearse/ambulance you speak of. If it's the one I tried to buy from the guy, he's got a far higher value system on that car than it's really worth. When I asked if he was willing to sell it, he said no, but he'd trade for a 50's Cadillac ambulance, or top notch hearse. Ahem, but that Buick is worth 1/5th the Cadillac....not a good deal. I never found another to make an offer on. Sad.

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Dear Dave,

I once saw a photo of 5 or 10 1904 Buicks lined up in the street outside the factory and wondered what happened to them all. Thank you for the update on the two still in existence.

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Greetings.................

Anymore rare Buicks and/or parts, engines, etc.?

It would be a very interesting thread.

People may have a lot of treasures in their garage to share.

A lot of Buick history.

I have a few myself.

Thanks,

Marty

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Certainly not the among the rarest but a model that's not seen often and not even listed in most litterature, the 1965 and 1966 Wildcat Custom 4 door sedan model 46669.

The 1980 LeSabre Turbo is another rare sight, I saw just one, many years ago in the local shopping center and I saw it for sale in Montreal some time ago.

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Certainly not the among the rarest but a model that's not seen often and not even listed in most litterature, the 1965 and 1966 Wildcat Custom 4 door sedan model 46669.

The 1980 LeSabre Turbo is another rare sight, I saw just one, many years ago in the local shopping center and I saw it for sale in Montreal some time ago.

lesabreturbo1.jpg

OOOhh...I like. Don't remember the last time I saw one of those.

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Parts wise I have the engineering master carb for the 1982 3.8 turbo motors. Still has all the passages in the blocked open mode for final flow testing, and still has it's hang tag attacked that says customer as simply "Buick".

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There was a '64 or '65 Wildcat convertible here at the all-GM show in August that had a factory 4-speed... I'll post some pictures later.

What about the Y-job? :)

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Certainly not the among the rarest but a model that's not seen often and not even listed in most litterature, the 1965 and 1966 Wildcat Custom 4 door sedan model 46669.

The 1980 LeSabre Turbo is another rare sight, I saw just one, many years ago in the local shopping center and I saw it for sale in Montreal some time ago.

lesabreturbo1.jpg

Zut alors! C'est belle! :)

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I would think that the 1953 Buick Roadmaster Riviera 2 door hardtop is a pretty rare Buick. 50th anniversary model and just below the Skylark on the list. Not sure of the overall numbers but I had quite a bit of trouble finding parts for it.

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22,927 according to Standard Catalog of Buick, assuming I made no transcription error.

Of course, survival rate over 50 years later is another thing altogether. I'm sure it would still be easier to get parts for the rarest of '53 Chevs than a 76R.

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Let's see.................

"D" cylinder heads (nailhead)

"D" exhaust manifolds, two versions

2 X 4 intake manifold, "X" code, aluminum, higher than stock

Marty

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