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Our dars qualify in cash for clunker!??????


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Mine '91 TC isn't for sale...at any price. It's my pride and joy. My wife has a '92 Chrysler Imperial that falls in the same category. These are classics and in a few years will be antiques as well. The 'Gov' tried it once before and it didn't work then. Why would this time be any different?

I have an old Fiero that I might give consideration to, but not the TC or Imperial.

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The car needs to be running, reg in your name for 1 year+ and that's it. You need to buy a new car that gets better mileage.

And I have a 2 low mile Mark 8s that qualify but I cannot see them being melted down into new Kias.

And, the reason this time will be more sucessful is the depressed car prices PLUS the 3500-4500. for a heap means a new Kia for say, 9000. for your co-ed daughter.

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The concept is fine as long as it doesn't affect those of us who are attempting to maintain the hobby of antique and classic cars. Admittedly, there are some vehicles on the road that need to be sidelined.

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Actually the engine and drivetrain have to be destroyed and the rest may be parted out. I was just seeing what reaction this would have. There aren't any new cars that I would want in replacement. I also noted that not many chrysler dealers in Mo are participating.

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The advertising we see up here indicates that all US Chrysler dealers are matching the $4500 rebate, totaling $9000. I wish the Canadian government and indeed Chrysler would give us Canadians better rebates and prices. Cars are a wicked price up here and we do not get the unlimited powertrain warranties you folks get either!

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On that note, attached is a joke, or not so joke, I received lately. How true is it???? Enjoy!

It is tough times, everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit.

Suddenly, a rich tourist comes to town.

He enters the only hotel, lays a $100 bill on the reception counter, and goes to inspect the rooms upstairs in order to pick one.

The hotel proprietor takes the $100 bill and runs to pay his debt to the butcher.

The Butcher takes the $100 bill, and runs to pay his debt to the pig grower.

The pig grower takes the $100 bill, and runs to pay his debt to the supplier of his feed and fuel.

The supplier of feed and fuel takes the $100 bill and runs to pay his debt to the town's prostitute that in these hard times, gave her "services" on credit.

The hooker runs to the hotel, and pays off her debt with the $100 bill to the hotel proprietor to pay for the rooms that she rented when she brought her clients there.

The hotel proprietor then lays the $100 bill back on the counter so that the rich tourist will not suspect anything.

At that moment, the rich tourist comes down after inspecting the rooms, and takes his $100 bill, after saying that he did not like any of the rooms, and leaves town.

No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now without debt, and looks to the future with a lot of optimism.

True or false?

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Dave, I do not agree. I do not know the inner workings of the US government, but I suspect they are not much different than the Canadian government. We have gone through this type of program before (allbeit a different name). The last thing the lawmakers want to do is get rid of all older cars, simply because of the of all the good that they do. Owners of collector and antique cars but products to keep their cars in good working order, they are used in parades for peoples enjoyment, car clubs use their cars for fund raising, taxes are paid on transfers of our cars (now that's something you dont hear the governments complaining about) and so on.

Hell we buy a forutne in cleaners, waxes and polishes.

What I do agree with is the removal of junk off our roads. If someone is keeping a piece of crap on the road because he cannot afford a newer car he is not only polluting but putting all our lives at risk. I would like to see all the unsafe cars removed from our roads.

I do not think we will ever see the removal of our properly maintained collector or antique cars from our roads.

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I was going to write a good sized page explaining my reasons for believing the head of this administration was lacking in...................................

But decided I just would not speak so ill of anyone.. LZ

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Well, I'm not a fan of Mr. Obama. This cash for clunkers BS is just one of many reasons. But like everything else in the administration, they're in a total hurry to show folks they're doing something without thinking the problem through. And in the mean time, we're spending ourselves into socialism. Yippee Skippee

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Steph,

He is just a Brash Young Smart Ass. He is from that faction that thinks Uncle Sam In his all powerful way has run over all other countries in our attempt to run the world. when in fact that is exactly what his inexperience and arrogance is causing him to do to this country now. LZ

Not only does he not have any political experience. He has no real worldly experience. I also think as an inner city person he may never have had a car.

I was born during the depression and I do remember how it was. Maybe not exact instances but generally so. One of the big problems I'm quietly wrestling with is; his similarity to Adolf Hitler, and the manner that he proceeded in Germany. With that in mind I believe this is just a feeler. He believes anything old is a detriment to the world, cars are just one of many that slow down the continuous sale and movement of product.

My belief continues to them trying to rid us of all antiques maybe including people.

OK no more that's it for the soap box... I knew I didn't want to get started

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My TC isn't a clunker and never will be! Nor will any of my other running vehicles. I'll be the judge of when they need to be replaced, and I don't need anyone in the oval office helping me. I think Lou and Steph said it best...nuff said!

Duane

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As long as you can get them to the dealers lot while they are running . You can strip them down to bare essentials. Take the Lights,seats,dash,tops,windows,etc. You have to have them insured for 1 year and have owned them for 1 year. For $4500 back they have to get 18mpg or less and you have to get a new car that gets at least 28 mpg or 10 mpg more than your clunker.

Doc

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JDERDEN,

When you have a new subject start a new thread. When you open the forum at the upper left corner there is a click tab for that, I just opened one for you. Please go over to that one and ask exact question. no problem just ask exactly what you need to know. good luck, Lou

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Before so many people's ignorance of the program details puts more bad information on this forum, the Clunkers laws SPECIFICALLY exempts cars 25 years old or older from the program. The Administration is not "trying to get rid of all collectible cars". The fact that the TC, Reatta and a few other cars that are less then 25 years old are collectible are an anomaly, as their current market value has plunged so far over the last few years. Certainly, any car worth collecting *should* have a value of at least $3,500 to $4,500 in any market condition. There are no "partial rebates", only $3,500 and $4,500. I have read all 126 pages of the law and have experience in the transactions as the buyer of salvage vehicles. I suspect more "good" TCs are taken off the road by non-licensed, non-tax paying owners trying to make a fast buck off of parts than will be traded in through the Clunker's program. In addition, on most transactions the sales tax and registration fees paid on the new vehicle are almost equal to the rebate amount, so most of the rebates are *paid back* the day of the transaction.

If anyone needs to know correct, unbiased information, as well as the requirements of "road worthy" please do not hesitate to email me privately.

info@TCParts.com

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Just for information, I was reading on-line that US dealers have submitted a final total of 690,114 'Cash For Clunkers' deals for a total of $2.88 billion in rebates, just below the governments #3 billion estimate.

Further to that, at one point dealers had submitted $1.91 billion in rebates and had been paid a total of $140 million.

Sounds to me like the dealers will be paying additional interest on their financing before they get all their rebate money. Not that I feel sorry for the dealers, bit I am sure some will be paying more for this deal than they expected, and will probably end up being hurt!

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