ACME Garage Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I have just found (and purchased) a pretty rough project; 1958 Fury. The metal is in good shape with very little rust (in 58 Fury terms). The previous owner does not know much about it other than it had the big engine with 2 four barrel carbs and was built for the government (sounded fishy to me), but I bought the car regardless because it was in good shape to restore. When I looked at the dash, I was amazed to see a 200 MPH speedometer, and it doesn't mention Kilometers anywhere. After a little research I found that USA and Canada didn't convert to metric until 1976... The VIN on this car starts with LP276xxx and is a detriot car.Has anyone ever seen one of these ?Thanks for any infoMike@logic2.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 To qualify a car for the racing circut, didn't they have to produce a certian amount of engines, parts??? Perhaps for a pace car? I have a 1957 wagon out back. I'll have to take a look at the speedo. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 The dual quad cars had the 200 mile speedometers. NICE....you got the optional clock, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Skyking Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 The 361 Golden Comando had the 200mph speedo.....Rocket fast!Nice find!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACME Garage Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 Thanks !Is there any documentation on the golden commando options ?I cant seem to find (any) documentation on the 200 mph speedo or golden commando options.Books, website, etc...Thanks for your information do far...RegardsMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxnard Montalvo Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Logic2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks !Is there any documentation on the golden commando options ?I cant seem to find (any) documentation on the 200 mph speedo or golden commando options.Books, website, etc...Thanks for your information do far...RegardsMike </div></div>Cool find. This is it. '58 Plymouth Options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACME Garage Posted March 9, 2009 Author Share Posted March 9, 2009 Thanks for the engine specs...It's a good start.Still looking for any documentation on a 200 MPH speedo.Heck, I'd settle for any documentation on a 200 KPH speedo at this point.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxnard Montalvo Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I looked around a little more and all I found were references to a 150 mph speedometer. I did find these guys, they'd probably know. 1957 1958 Plymouths. You might kill one or two of them if you post the pictures. Cool, cool car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 My dad had a "Stardust Blue" '58 9-passenger station wagon when I was a kid. I see that color on the insides of your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop Rat Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Logic2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still looking for any documentation on a 200 MPH speedo. </div></div>A good place to start is at the AACA Library and Research Center. Members get some free research, I am not sure how much but some free is better than none free, right? The added bonus is that documentation that comes from the L&R C is accepted by judging teams. There is a nominal cost for copies and mailing them to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I looked yesterday at the old 1957 Pymouth Wagon, and the speedo only goes to 120 MPH. I did not notice if it has a clock or not. Will look again. The wagon is ruff and is a parts car. Need somthing? Send a PM and I'll look to see if it has what you want. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padgett Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Did Chrysler have an export office like GMOO ? Back in the day a serviceman stationed overseas could order an American car to be shipped to them on station. There were also a number used by the military at consulates and on bases (though doubt that many were ordered with dual quads). However when a serviceman returned, a car was often part of their "household goods" - quite a few interesting cars came to the US that way. I suspect that it is calibrated in KM - should be easy enough to test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Skyking Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Hi Mike, I sent you a PM with some info on your car from a friend that worked at Chrysler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleek Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 This appears to be an import speedo. Check out this find in Finland with pics. www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=4212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 It would seem obvious that the speedometer is calibrated in Kms rather tham miles. 200 km is 120 mphBack in the 30's Pontiacs like mine had a speedometer in Kilometers when sold in Europe so why would we find this surprising in the 60's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldsfan Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Here is a link to an exported '62 Oldsmobile Cutlass with a 200 kph speedometer:http://home.comcast.net/~oldsfan/MySite/bayard.htmlUS speedometers in these cars ran up to 120.Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardudeman Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Hey Guys, I found some great deals on Speedometers through this site called Getitnext.com Use their "Find a Deal" feature to truly find the best deal on speedometers for your antique car.Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WQ59B Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I have a '58 Cadillac speedo that reads to '200'.Have seen pics of 2 different DeSoto speedos to '200' also.I would agree that this is KPH, but now am wondering : if this is a real Fury, it 'should' have the KPH equivalent to 150 MPH... but maybe that just wouldn't fit the dial (it would be 240 KPH). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 1957 Plymouth Savoy - Featured Vehicles - Hot Rod Magazine Guess no one has seen 200MPH in one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Yaros Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 That looks like an after market turn signal device. You mean to tell me the Fury did not have factory turn signals in 1958? I find that to be a bit incredulous, but hey what do I know, I am an Olds guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Maine Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I'd second or third that this car spent it's early years in Europe or somewhere and the speedo is in kms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2dameron Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I feel sure the speedometer is in kilometers so I guess it is an export car. I ran up on a 1937 Terraplane several years ago that had a speedometer marked in kilometers. Later on that day it dawned on me why the speedometer was marked so optimistically. As for the 361 engine it came out in 1959. The top engine in 1958 was the 350-V-8; 305 hp with 2 4-barrels or 315 with fuel injection. Most of the fuel injection cars were recalled and converted to the 2 4-barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 My 31 Model A roadster still has a kilometer speedo. it supposedly was built in Baltimore and exported to Sweden. Around 1970 somebody was gathering them up from Scandinavian junkyards and bringing them back when the prices were rising. I always wondered how many of the A's you see today were on these ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starfireelvis Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Remembered seeing a picture on Paul Hartlieb's 1962 Oldsmobile website, of a '62 Super 88 Holiday Coupe located in France; if you scroll down to the third picture, you'll see a good shot of the 200 km/h speedometer. From what I remember reading in the appendix to "Setting The Pace", the best book on the history of Oldsmobile written by the late Helen Jones Earley, and James Walkinshaw, there were 17 such '62 Oldsmobiles so equipped.Stephane Niceron's '62 Super 88 Holiday coupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleek Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Some of you may have missed my post on page 2 of a Desoto in Finland that plainly has this dash and speedo setup. Viewing a thread - 1957 DeSoto Diplomat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Maine Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 That doctor in Nice must have been pretty wealthy to run a '62 Super 88 in France. My uncle had a black 2 door hardtop from 1963-1971. It couldn't make a round trip from Portland to Boston on one tank of gas which is about 215 miles. A 20 gallon tank at 10 mpg doesn't go that far. I remember when he bought it, my parents thought he was crazy because it cost $10 a week for gas when they were using $3 a week. It was a nice car but it could be a handful. I got to drive it some as a teenager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starfireelvis Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Well, I appreciate the confirmation that the 10 mph I get in my '62 Starfire is about all I'm gonna get; that seems to be the magic number I hear from some other folks who drive a car like mine.Back to the speedometers that read "200", Oldsmobile did in fact make a handful (I heard the number six being bandied about) of '72 Indy Pace Cars with an actual 200 mph (not km/h) speedometer; I took a picture of one in Lansing many years back, would have to search to find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Maine Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Starfireelvis - yep, 10-11 mpg is about it for the 394, but my uncle took me to Washington DC in it and it went to Florida at least once. It was a fabulous car and I'd love to have one now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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