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Buick and GM near top of quality list--AGAIN!


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Here we go; we have heard this song before; Buick and GM rank near the top and above many "quality" Japanese brands.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/automotive/17119521/detail.html

<span style="font-weight: bold">2008 Vehicle Dependability Study, Nameplate Ranking</span>

Lexus, 120 problems per 100 vehicles

Mercury, 151 problems per 100 vehicles

<span style="font-weight: bold">Cadillac 155 problems per 100 vehicles</span>

Toyota, 159 problems per 100 vehicles

Acura, 160 problems per 100 vehicles

<span style="font-weight: bold">Buick, 163 problems per 100 vehicles </span>

BMW, 164 problems per 100 vehicles

Lincoln, 165 problems per 100 vehicles

Honda, 177 problems per 100 vehicles

Jaguar, 178 problems per 100 vehicles

Porsche, 193 problems per 100 vehicles

Mitsubishi, 197 problems per 100 vehicles

Hyundai, 200 problems per 100 vehicles

<span style="font-weight: bold">Ford, 204 problems per 100 vehicles </span>

Infiniti, 204 problems per 100 vehicles

Audi, 207 problems per 100 vehicles

Mercedes-Benz, 215 problems per 100 vehicles

Nissan, 224 problems per 100 vehicles

Pontiac, 225 problems per 100 vehicles

GMC, 226 problems per 100 vehicles

Mazda, 228 problems per 100 vehicles

Subaru, 228 problems per 100 vehicles

Chrysler, 229 problems per 100 vehicles

Dodge, 230 problems per 100 vehicles

Mini, 233 problems per 100 vehicles

Chevrolet, 239 problems per 100 vehicles

Hummer, 241 problems per 100 vehicles

Scion, 243 problems per 100 vehicles

Volvo, 244 problems per 100 vehicles

Saturn, 250 problems per 100 vehicles

Jeep, 253 problems per 100 vehicles

Volkswagen, 253 problems per 100 vehicles

Saab, 254 problems per 100 vehicles

Isuzu, 274 problems per 100 vehicles

Kia, 278 problems per 100 vehicles

Suzuki, 302 problems per 100 vehicles

<span style="font-weight: bold">Land Rover, 344 problems per 100 vehicles </span>

So, once again, our beloved Buick beats out BMW, Honda, Jaguar, Porsche, Mercedes, Mitsubishi, Hyundai, Infinity, Audi, Nissan, Mazda, Subaru, Mini, Scion (Toyota brand), Volvo, VW, Isuzu, Kia, Suzuki and Land Rover. And, they are virtually tied with Toyota and Accura.

Once again, so much for "Japanese stuff is better."

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Once again, so much for "Japanese stuff is better."

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Watch the <span style="font-style: italic">Saving GM</span> documentary on CNBC. They address this in the first 5-10 minutes with <span style="font-style: italic">Consumer Reports</span>' head of automotive testing. I think you'll like what he has to say about today's cars. However as he says the jury is still out on long term durability (5-10 years).

If they continue to hold up as well as they have been lately it's VERY good news.

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I wish there was a scientifically valid way to measure long-term reliability in light of and when filtered with PROPER MAINTENANCE.

I've long believed some brands do better in long-term reliability because the original owners tend to spend more on them when new, keep them longer and maintain them better.

When a $40-50K car is bought at or near full window sticker, and kept for many years, that owner is going to not mind spending $500-700 at a pop for "preventive maintenance." When someone spends $10-12K on a one-year old former rental car and only intends to keep it 2-4 years, they just ignore many preventive maintenance items then act surprised when the car breaks.

This, I think, skews the long-term reliability numbers for many bread-and-butter cars like Ford and Chevy.

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I was disappointed to see that Buick slipped to sixth from last year's tie for first place with Lexus.

Reading some of the details of the study, though, it appears that Buick's high ranking (for its passenger car lines like the Century and Park Avenue) was pulled down by the vehicles that should never have been built, like the Terraza minivan. I'm guessing that the Rainier and Rendezvous likewise countered the excellent dependability ratings of the passenger car lines.

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Ever wondered if the number of problems reported per vehicle is manipulated?

"Yes, Mr. Jones, we noticed your radiator hose was leaking, so while you were in here for your 20,000 mile "CHECK UP" (not a repair, a service or check up) we fixed it." Do you think that owner reports it as a 'problem' when they get a survey? Or, maybe they fix it and don't even tell the owner. THAT would definitely keep it from being reported.

Hmmmmmmmm.....................

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yea right, say dexcool and plastic intake gaskets..

maint items..every gm car has to have intake resealed every few years..oh boy..

not to mention the bone head greedy techs selling head gaskets instead..

google gm dexcool class action..

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