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I'm considered strange over here because I own a V8 powered 1957 Chevy, not because its an American car, its because of how expensive our gas is. A gallon (Imperial measurement) of gas currently costs about $10.00, so to fill ours up works out at roughly $100.00. My difficulty is our vehicle shows are quite far apart (for Scotland that is), where the furthest away will cost me $160.00 to get there and back, which is now getting expensive for me, so much so if gas keeps going up the way it is over here ($12.00 come summer)I'm going to have to cut back on shows.

Now I know you guys have been hurting with increasing gas prices and it has me wondering are any of you in the same boat as me, has anybody here decided to miss a couple of shows this year to save the additional expense?

Argyll.

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What i have seen in my area is guys maybe going to a free cruise-in vs having to pay for a car show.Most car shows have yet to drop their registration fees inorder to keep participation up.I do alot of car shows and cruise-ins because these are my vacations:).

Jeff Mealer

Mt. Juliet,TN.

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No change Argyll. At under $3.00 a gallon, I now feel that we're stealing it compared to your prices. frown.gif

There are many shows in the states at any one given weekend, so I'd think that a car enthusiast can find a show or cruise-in close to just "get him by", if need be. smile.gif

Wayne

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There are six swapmeets I go to every year and gas is not a problem for the two hour round trip. Airfair for two to the West Coast and a weeks stay for a few meets is still a life long fantacy.

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Our grand national meet is a 2000 mile round trip for me this year. I have a car I would like to take but the cost would be just a bit more than I want to spend. When the cost of fuel here hits $5 a gal, which it surely will, I think you will see a real change in the hobby.......Bob

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There's so much stuff within 45 minutes or less, usually MUCH less, that it's not an issue for me. Though at the same time I'm not 100% positive I'd want to drive this thing 500 miles or something on that order of magnitude. Gotta keep it to about 50 MPH and even then shes singin' and it would get to me before too long. Last summer I made the trek 90 miles northward to bring it to my friends' family's camp at Schroon Lake to show his neighbor who wanted to see it and to put it in the local parade! Normally 1.5 hrs to get there, it was 2 and change this time!

That's really too bad you need to go so far to be with your fellow hobbyists. frown.gif

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It isn't gas prices that affect my attendance. If it is too far I will usually fly because I do not want to waste vacation time traveling that can be spent at other events. So it is airfare and hotel prices that will kill a trip for me. Stuff that I can drive to in a day, I will go to if I am interested regardless of gas prices because after a rotten week at work I need some fun. However, I think I will pass on some regular events this year because it's not worth the gas and hotel to see the same thing every year.

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I've noticed a definite drop in attendence at virtually every event I've made it to in the last 2-3 years. The mid-size swap meets seem to be suffering the most. The 2007 Springfield Swap Meet in Ohio (the last regional event I attended) was about 1/2 or less of what it was 5 years ago.

The last local cruise-in I attended was just as emaciated, which worries me more than the major events shrinking. However I noticed most of the decline was in hot rods, the authentic car owners seem to be more hard core. smile.gif

There are those who will say they're not changing their habits for gas prices no matter what. The story of who actually shows up seems to be different, however. frown.gif

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I have to agree with bigdog. I have wated since Dover and realy looked forward to Fla. for one last try at the grand Nat.But with gas prices as they are and climbing I am starting to think twice. Wouldnt it be nice if we could have one GN as it is now and also a second at home base Hershey?? Hey, now that I think of it why not turn the fall Hershey meet into a Grand Nat.?? keep every thing else the same. Would cut down on the space required less head ach might evan make the locals happy.Reading the art. from 08 chirman in latest mag. I get the impression locals are not to happy with us anyway. Last thought, picture of Packard and flying fortress is imho THE BEST ever.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R W Burgess</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

There are many shows in the states at any one given weekend, so I'd think that a car enthusiast can find a show or cruise-in close to just "get him by", if need be. smile.gif</div></div>

I know exactly what you mean Wayne, we vacation in Florida every year for that very reason. I'm a real petrol-head and my other half enjoys the shows / swap meets almost as much as me, sometimes even more so. I was amazed at how many meetings there are "just on your doorstep" in Florida, and as you say its probably the same for most states in the US.

We're coming over in 7 weeks time and we've got the local cruises all sorted out as we move around Florida, and we'll probably check out the local Wally-Mart car parks in the evenings coming home in case there's a group of enthusiasts just chewing the fat.

The sheer number of local meets means we get our fill of classic cars in the space of three weeks, which with your gas prices means we don't feel the pinch if we go to as many as we can fit in.

Argyll. wink.gif

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I dont know where you buy gas Wayne here in my aera its $3.17 a gal and thats down about 12 cents in the past 10 days. Of course you have to remember NY is tax happy and looking for more. I suggested they lic.cats like dogs,might make enough to do away with school tax. Boy did I hit a nerve, seems they (cats) are somethin special, heck we dont evan have a season on them like rabbits and deer.

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$2.85 today in Tappahannock, Virginia, 4 different stations as a matter of fact, and neither one had that dreaded city oxygenated useless petrol! frown.gif

Wayne

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Your cat? Your <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Puddy Cat</span></span>???

You're not serious!crazy.gif

Ohhh, the wife says they're worried about Rabies. Darn, wonder when they'll want to tag me!! cool.gifgrin.gif

Wayne

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As far as last summer goes one determining factor was the @##^#^%##$ heat.Sitting on a parking lot with 105 degree weather mmmmmmm boy makes your mouth water.

Jeff Mealer

Mt Juliet,TN

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> why not turn the fall Hershey meet into a Grand Nat.?? keep every thing else the same.

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Whoa! Where do I go to vote for that proposal. I'll vote early and often. Stage the cars exactly as they would be anyway but carry a windsheild card color denoting GN judging. I know there must be a fly in this ointment somewhere it sounds way too easy.......Bob

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LINC400</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It isn't gas prices that affect my attendance. If it is too far I will usually fly because I do not want to waste vacation time traveling that can be spent at other events. So it is airfare and hotel prices that will kill a trip for me. Stuff that I can drive to in a day, I will go to if I am interested regardless of gas prices because after a rotten week at work I need some fun. However, I think I will pass on some regular events this year because it's not worth the gas and hotel to see the same thing every year. </div></div>

Add to that the high cost of paid transport. I drive my Mark II up to about 5 hours but beyond that I ship it. Those costs have skyrocketed.

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I don't see any difference in attendance at any shows. Macungie & the Chrysler nationals were packed. All cruise nights are also packed. People still do what they enjoy no matter what the price is. Watch the Super Bowl tomorrow. I bet it's sold out! And those tickets aren't cheap........... crazy.gif

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">has anybody here decided to miss a couple of shows this year to save the additional expense?</div></div>

<span style="color: #3333FF">We have seen a lot less of "Old Town" this past year, but mostly due to family schedules... not so much gas prices.

Oddly enough, Greg & I drove the Grand Prix to Daytona for the Turkey Run for one day. (We usually trailer it up with the whole family for the long weekend, then load the truck with swap meet treasures to take home, but momma was recovering from surgery this time}.

As already mentioned, there are PLENTY of shows in Central Florida (all year long) that are within 20 miles, so gas prices alone would not affect our cruising.</span>

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bhigdog</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Whoa! Where do I go to vote for that proposal. I'll vote early and often. Stage the cars exactly as they would be anyway but carry a windsheild card color denoting GN judging. I know there must be a fly in this ointment somewhere it sounds way too easy.......Bob </div></div>

I would also be in favor of a Grand National at Hershey.

Problem is doing it this way could easily add another 500-600 cars (attendance at Dover a few years ago) to an already over-crowded Hershey field.

Then again what about a Dual Meet at Hershey????? The show field sits EMPTY on Friday of Hershey week.

Have a Grand National on Friday and the Fall Meet on Saturday. LOTS of AACA Judges in town ALL WEEK.

I realize a Dual Meet at Hershey would add even more work for the Hershey Region.

For that reason I seriously doubt an idea like this would fly. Then again, where is the GN scheduled for in 2012??? hmmmmmmm..... grin.gif

As far as atendance goes, I have seen attendance increase, decrease and level off at events and vary GREATLY depending on the number of "like" events available.

If a show car owner has 10 events to choose from that is one thing. If that owner has 50 events to choose from that is something else.

In both cases the owner only has so much time and money so they decide what event(s) they will attend based on distance, time involved and cost.

Personally, I would have loved to go to the Grand National in Florida this year. Unfortunately, for me the distance (2,100 miles) requires more time and money than I am willing to spend. The date in March also does not fit into my schedule very well either. I went to Kalamazoo, Michigan last year and had a LOT of FUN. It was my vacation for the year. Due to it's cost it also limited the number of other events I attended last year. Will I go to the 2009 Grand National? That all depends on where & when it is going to be held. Last I heard in was somewhere in Kansas. Anyone know Exactly where and when????

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: charlier</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Personally, I would have loved to go to the Grand National in Florida this year. </div></div>

I couldn't believe our vacation schedule misses this event by a few days - I suppose I can't do everything I want to do. cry.gif

Argyll.

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I am blessed with the fact that geographically there is always something going on within 10 miles of me in Spring and Summer.

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Does anyone want to admit that the internet has replaced the need to go to most shows and swapmeets? I've "meet" far more new car people online than I have at the meets I've attended in the last few years. Far more knowledge passed around, and you have worldwide contact 24/7.

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A dual meet at Hershey. Wouldnt it be wonderful??I think there was a song like that. Trust me, IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN!! But we can dream.Better yet hold the eastern fall meet at carlisle and the GN at hershey once a year. Carlisle done a beautiful job what?? 3 maby 4 years ago?? Haveing attended there events and the one Nat meet I would be willing to bet the neigbors wouldnt bitc-

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