20Premier Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 (edited) I am restoring my grandfathers 1920 Premier model 6-D Roadster, made by Premier Motor Corporation of Indianapolis, Indiana. I would like to find examples of restored or orginal cars in museums or privately held. Also need information and literature that will aid in the restoration. I will share information that I have collected. Edited October 4, 2009 by 20Premier updates (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Contact the AACA Library (aacalibrary.org) for your literature needs.I know of a nicely restored Premier in Cambridge, Ohio, but it is much earlier... I think around 1912-13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Here are some photos of Premier 1920-1921,I could`t find a Roadster in 1920.Maybe it`s a Speedster. LEIF in SWEDEN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ChrisSummers Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 For what its worth, there's a 1916 Premiere at the ACD Museum in Auburn, IN, and a 1912 at the Nethercutt Collection in Sylmar, CA.Both museums have research libraries that, after you check at Hershey, might be worth checking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 There is a 1923Premier touring in Dayton. In storage at the Packard Museum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustDave Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 I am restoring my grandfathers 1920 Premier model 6-D Roadster, made by Premier Motor Corporation of Indianapolis, Indiana. I would like to find examples of restored or orginal cars in museums or privately held. Also need information and literature that will aid in the restoration. I will share information that I have collected.did the premiere ever get restored dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustDave Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 did the premiere ever get restored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 Dave,We are working on it now. Do you have any information or parts?20Premier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickelroadster Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Why don't you post a few pictures. If you do that, it might stimulate some activity in your search for literature and information. Some of us would like to watch and enjoy your work. Keep plugging away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted October 4, 2009 Author Share Posted October 4, 2009 Restoration continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 1919-1924 Premier...First pushbutton transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted October 4, 2009 Author Share Posted October 4, 2009 Yes, it has the Cutler Hammer Magnetic Shift. On the later years it was shifted by a lever on the steering quadrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) This engine has not run in almost 70 years. After taking the gear driven generator off it turned free !The Lynite aluminum alloy engine block with cast iron sleeves ! Just a couple broken bolts to remove. Edited November 14, 2009 by 20Premier (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 You are welcome to make arrangements to view the one at the Packard Museum in Dayton. Schedule with Donna at events@americaspackardmuseum.org. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcar Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Hi Your Premier Restoration looks almost as daunting as the Dixie Flyer just keep plugging away and I am sure that you will get it done.The reference section of the AACA Library has proved a valuable source of information and are certainly worth a try.Bernie J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcar Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Hi again Premier20If you need some more info on the Borg & Beck clutch I could send you the pages out of the Dixie Flyer hand book. It may be of some help when you come to put it all back together again. Let me have your e-mail if you would like to see the relevant pages.Bernie J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 More pictures of our restoration. Gabriel No. 3 snubbers, and the Borg & Beck clutch. The chassis picture shows the Cutler & Hammer Magnetic Shifter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 I am still looking for a pair of 3-1/2" warner lenses. We haven't accomplished much this month with the cold weather and Christmas. We hope to have the springs and axles under the frame in early January. Still struggling with deciding who to have work on the radiator, badges, starter and generator.Have a great New Year ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted January 25, 2010 Author Share Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) The chassis is finall coming together. Front and rear axles and springs back under the frame. Engine splash pans repaired. Ordered new custom made aluminum pistons from Arias Pistons. Edited January 25, 2010 by 20Premier (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 I need the outer bead rim for this Disteel wheel. It is a 23" rim with 10 bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest whildwhun Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 20 Primear wondering where you are located. We have a 20 or 21 open touring located on the east end of Long Island car is compleat and unrestored. I will look to sea what liturature we have in the file.Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 Brian,I am in Oregon. Would like to see pics of you car, especially since it is unresored. You can e-mail the pics if you are interested. What are you doing with the car, does it run? I also have a list of serial numbers that would date your car. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 Just finished soda blasting the cooling fan. I have experimented with sand, crushed glass, walnut shells and soda. I like the soda effect the best, what does everyone else think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted July 25, 2010 Author Share Posted July 25, 2010 We are still working on the car. Just starting to work on the wood. The engine is cleaning up good. Had to be a little more aggressive than soda, tried a very fine grade glass bead at low pressure and was very pleased with the results. Traveled to Connecticut to salvage the remains of a Premier chassis. Brought home an engine and transmission, radiator and shell and many small parts. Thanks to Jim and all his help!Always looking for more parts ! :eek: Will be going back to hershey again via Kentucky with the girls to see horse stuff, the world equestrian games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted September 25, 2010 Author Share Posted September 25, 2010 (edited) Making progress! Working on the doors of the body. Went to Crosscut Hardwoods in Portland OR for a ash. We are trying to save any piece we can. Finally got the clutch apart. We have a broken spring, does anyone know who has these conical springs for clutches? Our Connecticut trip proved to be very good, the inside of the engine is in excellent shape. I didn't think it would be very good.Off to Hershey! Contact me if you know of any Premier parts. Edited September 25, 2010 by 20Premier did not load pics (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40phil41 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 It turns out that Chris (20Premier) and I stayed at the same hotel during the Hershey meet. We met at breakfast for 3 days straight and talked about, what else, old cars. I had the privilege of looking through the 1920 Premier restoration booklet that Chris is compiling. It is a truly daunting restoration which few people would undertake. I hope that by bumping this thread to the top Chris will give us another update and let us know if he was able to find any parts or leads at Hershey.Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted October 13, 2010 Author Share Posted October 13, 2010 Phil, thanks for the post. I had a great time visiting and sharing our projects. I met some great people at Hershey again. I found a few interesting items this year, a "Premier" brass cap, a Trico wiper, and a retractable dash lamp. What an amazing event that the Hershey Region puts on, incredibly well organized. I am always looking for Premier parts and also compiling a list of cars around the country and world.Pictures later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 Here are two of my purchases at Hershey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2moredoors Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Glad to see your pics. I was just wondering about you and your car the other day. I was the other fellow who had breakfast with you at the hotel. You are indeed to be admired for attempting your restoration project. With my 2 Studebakers a quick call to Studebaker International or some other vendor and most of what I need is available. Good luck and keep on hunting.cliff t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted October 26, 2010 Author Share Posted October 26, 2010 Thanks for the post Cliff. The doors are coming along! We are trying to save as much original wood as possible. The body wood is ash made by Fleetwood or possibly Columbia. Brought back engine parts from the body and paint shop today. The valve cover, push rod cover and head look great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share Posted November 11, 2010 (edited) I thought that a larger picture of the car would be a good idea. I hope it is not too big.Click on the image, it does get bigger. Edited November 11, 2010 by 20Premier (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2moredoors Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Great picture, thanks. I can imagine the car complete. It was quite the "stunner" in its day.cliff t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 Our trip to Connecticut proved to be very good. When I saw the remains of the car in the brush I thought we had wasted a trip. But, we just opened up the engine and it came apart surprisingly well. We got a lot of very good usable parts. It was amazing how bad the car looked compared to how the engine was on the inside. Two of the cylinders were full of water when we took the head off. The other 4 pistons came right out, and it didn't take too much effort to get the other two. The pistons and rods have to come out the bottom side because the rod bearing is larger than the bore! Really glad we went to Connecticut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted December 19, 2010 Author Share Posted December 19, 2010 The battery box is almost finished. The Connecticut car provided the needed pattern, ours was missing. Cutting gaskets for the engine and transmission. We also started the newly rebuilt engine in my wife's 1969 Chev pickup, it will be a surprise for Christmas. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted December 26, 2010 Author Share Posted December 26, 2010 (edited) It worked! I think she was surprised. She said "Who's here?, Oh it's Old Blue!"Back to work on the Premier engine after Christmas.The picture on the left is of our harvest fleet. '69 Chev, '53 GMC service truck, '75 Chev fire fighter, '97 K3500 Crew people hauler. Edited December 26, 2010 by 20Premier (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted December 27, 2010 Author Share Posted December 27, 2010 Working on the engine today. Getting ready to mount the water pump, but need to fix a chip in the aluminum casting on the block. It is behind the gasket of the pump, would JB weld work on the aluminum? It will not be visible. I also need some hose clamps like this one, for 1-1/4" ID hose so about 1-5/8" or 1-3/4" OD. Have not found any in the catalogs I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 We removed the aluminum skin from the body today! We are very pleased with the condition of the wood. We believe the wood body was made by either Columbia or Fleetwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts_DG8 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I’ve been following along and with each step I’m getting more drawn in to this car. I think that the body structure looks amazing with the sheet metal removed. Really like the progress you’ve made too. I’m really looking forward to the time when all things start coming together as I’m sure many others here are. And just to let you know, I know how much work it is and how much extra work is involved in posting your progress and wanted to pass along my appreciation for the extra effort in sharing this project with us.Scott… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2Wrench Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 We removed the aluminum skin from the body today! We are very pleased with the condition of the wood. We believe the wood body was made by either Columbia or Fleetwood.That frame is simply amazing!Really great project, can't wait for the next update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Premier Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 The wood is looking good. A little glue, new screws and some new wood and we will have a body again. We need to do some welding on the aluminum skin, but for being 91 years old it is not to bad! I am also working on the thermostat housing, it was made by Fulton Co. of TN (still in business today). Jim at Fulton is going to help with the new bellows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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