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Dan-D,

I knew when I met you in Albany this past summer that you heard a different band than I did. So I guess it is safe to say that you are marching to the beat of a different drummer.

Oh, cool, really cool. You must have quite a bit of patience.

Stevo

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Dave:

I'm having lots of fun! And I thought I was doing some back breaking work! I think I'll do as you and start from the bottom and work up.....as soon as I get rid of one of my parts cars. Sometimes just taking a sazall to a problem is a great stress reliever. I wanted the gauges from one of the parts cars. So I started out unbolting things in an orderly fashion. But, I hate being inside this thing since it's so funky. Well, I figured, why not, get the saw and hack away. It was fun and I learned how the dash is installed.

Serb: I grew up in Niagara Falls. How close are you to that awful place??

Gary

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Well Mr. Earl, I took a pulley count today just for li'l old you. 25 pulleys plus, 4 gears, 4 chain sprockets, two cable drums, 3 hydrolic motors, one for the swing and two to walk the machine, one hydrolic pump and one rotory coupling. This is the part that allows the machine to make a full 360 degree swing as many times as you want in the same direction without winding up the hoses that run to the hydrolic motors in the base. Have you ever thought about how did they do that? smile.gif Dave!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So I guess it is safe to say that you are marching to the beat of a different drummer. </div></div>

Yeah Serb, Ive been accused of that before!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You must have quite a bit of patience. </div></div>

And that too! smile.gif Dave!

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Gary, As long as you are having fun keep going......and going...and going.....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sometimes just taking a sazall to a problem is a great stress reliever. </div></div>

Yeah, what is it with that??? You should try dropping that Hanson bucket on some old pile of junk sometime for a stress-free-day. Something like a rusted out Yugo! grin.gifDave!

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Here's the John Deere BO that is in my list. "BO" = Model "B" Orchard. Before photos. frown.gif

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And after! grin.gif

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This tractor required a complete teardown to restore it. The valve stems were rusted almost completely off in the manifold ports of the head and one of the cylinders needed to be bored and sleeved because of a disease I have come to term as "Mouseitis". It is estimated that there was only about 2000 or so BO's built. BR, BO and BI serial numbers were all grouped together with the BR ("B" Regular) being the most produced at 5000 or more and the BI ("B" Industrial) at around 300 produced. These are very rare on steel wheels as most orchard farmers perfered rubber. wink.gif Dave!

....And it's birthday is January 8th 1937. When new it was delivered to Clearmont NY according to the records at mother Deere.

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Gary,

Lockport is about 20 miles east of NF, right up route 31 or Lockport Rd. You must have left at an early age not to know where Lockport is. If it is any consolation, you are not missing anything in NF, NY it is still a pretty messed up depressing little city. Politics and politicians are the main reason for the decline of a once thriving city. Most, as in other metropolitan cities, is in the name of urban renewal that never comes about after major areas are ripped down.

The salvation of NF may come in the fact that the Seneca Indian tribe is running a casino and gigantic hotel within the sight and sound of the falls. They are also running a temporary casino in Buffalo until a permanent one is built. Regardless of what the casino opponents say, the casinos will probably turn out to be good for the local economy in the long run.

Stevo

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It was in the paper here in the last week or so...a promotional video was made by Disney...the shot of the American Niagara Falls was actually of Horseshoe Falls (the Ontario side). Thought that was slightly amusing.

Dave - I love the after shots of the BO, particularly since they're taken in some flavour of an orchard...in bloom no less smile.gif

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Derek,

Yes you are correct about the shot of the Horseshoe Falls. It caused quite a stir in these parts but that is natural, nothing around here is ever done right. The Shot was from the Ontario side of the gorge showing the Horseshoe Falls which are about 30% in the US and the remainder in Canada (I think). People around here get upset about the smallest and most insignificant things, it is a perpetual inferiority complex. The residents of Western New York ought to learn to deal with things instead of crying about everything like a spoiled kid.

Well, I guess you can tell what I think about the small stuff.

Stevo

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dave - I love the after shots of the BO, particularly since they're taken in some flavour of an orchard...in bloom no less </div></div>

Thriller, This is apple country. smile.gif Dave!

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Stevo:

Maybe I'll read where you are located before I ask where you live. Old age...must be....old age!!! Anyway, I'm in Lewiston about every three months. Love it there. Lived in the Falls till 1960 then moved to Lewiston. Left when I went to school in NC. I'm planning on buying a place there one day. Love being on the River.

Gary

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Dave, that is one cool little shovel. You obviously have more spare time than me. How about big engines? This one weighs in at 11,300#.

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Looks like an oil field engine. Most ran off of natural gas piped off the top of the oil well. I can tell you it is not a 2 cycle "Reed" as there is no charging cylinder. There is a 100 HP Primm diesel not far from here. I have also run a 110 HP Ingersal- Rand one cylinder diesel that is at the Hudson Vally Old Time Power Assc. club grounds in Hudson NY in the past. That engine was one of a bank of 7 or 9 that supplied air for the Holland Tunnel.

What make is it?

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It's a 90HP Superior. It's 12" bore and about a 24" stroke. It needs a little TLC before it can be run, so no sound clip. Sorry.

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90 HP Superior. Very cool. I have a 6 HP Kenwood that was my Grandfathers. These were built by Stickney and sold by Sears before they sold the Economy line that they were so famous for. Very Rare. I'll get a photo and post it here later.

Oh, I got it....

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I have had this engine since I was about 9 years old. Yep, I got the bug young! crazy.gif

Mr. Earl, Most of these big engines I have found run quite quiet compared to the small ones. Just a nice, slow, Chuff.....Chuff......Chuff instead of a, BANG,BANG,BANG, chuga,chuga, Bang..from say a one HP Hercules. Sort of like a Great Dane compared to a Chawawa. That is as close as I can get to sound effects. whistle.gif Dave!

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Here's other stuff in my pole barn.

The John Deere A is a 1939 and was a basket case when I got it about 15 years ago. In front of it is a 1924 McCormick Deering 10-20. It also runs like a clock. The Buldozer is an Allis Chalmers "K" 35 from the 1930's. I have had it since I was about 14. That Black roof in the back is a 1930 Rolls waiting for the head and block to return and be reassemble for a customer. Of course the centerpiece is the 1915 Buick which is going in another garage soon.

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A Mopar wagon that belongs to my brother. Lots of D2 Cat's and parts.

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1924 McCormick Deering 15-30. Rusty but runs like a clock.

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Some of this stuff, like the Farmall A and the John Deere LA, belongs to Customers waiting for it's turn in the shop to be restored. Or some of the stuff is just here for repairs.

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Gary, This is what I pick my light stuff up with. smile.gif

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And you should have seen the stuff I got rid of frown.gif ....... Just to get a Buick! grin.gif Dave!

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Fellers n Gals, Keep in mind that I have been collecting for years. I drug my first lawn mower motor home when I was 6 or 7, my first old rusted tractor when I was 9, and a lot of stuff has come and gone since. When I was a young farmboy many of the local farmers, old friends, and relatives would give, or sell to me for $15 or $25 bucks, their old rusted tractor's or one lung farm engines just to see that they did not get junked. The first car I bought was a 1928 or 29 Desoto. And I was about 10 at the time. It was ruff with a lot of parts missing but it was only $25 Dollars. I thought I really had something then. The first Truck I had was a 1931 Model AAA Ford. It too was in tough shape, but mostly complete and free for the taking. I changed the motor, made it run and drove it around the farm back in the 70's. I guess I was about 12 then.

Also keep in mind that I am self employed and do a lot of repairs and some restoration for others for my living so if I have a slow period, (which hasn't happened for a while.) I get to restore my own stuff.

Growing up on a farm also afforded enough room to keep a lot of stuff that would have had to go otherwise.

So now all ya'all know what the "Other Goodies" are. smile.gif

And the stuff I got rid of.......... sick.gif

1930 Caterpillar Model 10 running

1937 Caterpillar Model 50 running

1934 Silver King Tractor running

1937 Farmall F-20 narrow tread running

1936 Farmall F-30 Running

1936 Cletrac model E- 62 Early unstyled Running

1921 Cletrac W not running but turned and complete.

1939 IHC T-20 TracTractor Running

1952 Oliver 77 Industrial With a Ware Loader. Running

Yeah, I brought all of it back from the dead.

And about 16 one lung engines that I can think of.

I can't remember how many parts Tractors??? crazy.gif

Cars and trucks??? The best one was the remains of a 1911 or 12 Stoddard Dayton Roadster. If I only had a motor, Trans. and radiator for it, it would never have left.

But I got my Buick! grin.gif

Not bad fur a poor stuggling farm boy.

Them RASG's can keep it. I'm having too much fun doing it this way. smile.gif Dave!

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Dave, we have a lot in common. I've been dragging stuff home from the neighbors since gradeschool, it adds up after awhile.

Tractors:

1927 McCormick 15-30

1929 AC 20-35

1936 Farmal F-12

1949 AC HD7W

1951 LeRoi TractAir

Engines:

A dozen or so... a couple Maytags, FM Jack Jr, 2HP Stover, 1 1/2HP R&V, 4HP Associated, 4 HP FM Type H, 25HP TICO, 15HP Pattin Brothers, 20HP Bessemer, 90HP Superior, few others.

Equipment:

1926 Jager cement mixer (2 cyl LeRoi engine), 1940 Adams grader, 1947 Insley Excavator, 1947 International KB8 truck.

I don't know how many cars 1916 to 1998, half a dozen bikes. Most stuff is projects aquired on the cheap over the years.

Then there is the shop, possibly my worst addiction.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Then there is the shop, possibly my worst addiction. </div></div>

Speaking of shop, Did you see the post I did back in the Spring on making axles for my 1915 Buick? "Can't Buy it? Make it! 1915 Buick Axle"

Most of my Money I spent on Tools, Mechanical Things, and Girls. The rest I wasted! laugh.gif

Gary, you must be getting a charge out of all the commotion you stired up with this post. How about some more Frankie and Dorothy photos of your slow but steady progress. After all, you started it. smile.gif Dave!

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I did, and enjoyed it immensely. I bought my first lathe when I was 18 and have been collecting machine tools since. Come in very handy working on the older Buicks and such.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe I should find a picture of a lamb roasting on an open spit </div></div>

Yeah, One with You, Gary and Mr. Earl watching it spin would be great! Can I come too??? laugh.gif Dave!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Will you be coming on one of those BIG tractors?

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No, I think the 15 Buick would better fit the occasion. Did you hear that JD, you can come on along too. We gonna have us a Buick Hoedown. grin.gif Dave!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1DandyDaves</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe I should find a picture of a lamb roasting on an open spit </div></div>

Yeah, One with You, Gary and Mr. Earl watching it spin would be great! Can I come too??? laugh.gif Dave! </div></div>

Turned by a small stationary? grin.gif

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Beer?! why heck, I'm sure Gary will bring some of that red wine he buys by the case. The bottles even have cork tops to 'em. And he uses an opener that just pushes the cork right down into the bottle so there's no putting the top back on, so you have to finish the bottle off after you open it. dangdest thang I ever seen. Who's gonna need a heater after drinkin all that alcyhol.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just that I'm partial to heaters... </div></div>

Well now that you put it that way cool.gif...... maybe I'll have to bring the Buick hauler that I recently aquired. wink.gif

Oh boy, "A Good Ol Buick Boys" Hoedown." I can't wait!

I'll tune up the fiddle and rosin up the bow, bring along the banjo and a guitar or two.

Say Mr. Earl, I think I just coined a new Abreveation for us, "A Good ol buick boy", AGOBB As opposed to a RASG trophy hunter what has everything restored by someone else.

Of course this by no mean excludes girls form joining on in. We could use the term AGOBG (G fur Gal.) for the ladies. Ya'll come on along now, Ya hear! laugh.gif Dave!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Turned by a small stationary? grin.gif </div></div>

Yeah, I could supply a 1909 tom Thumb with a reduction "Butter Churn" pulley. smile.gif Also has a water pump but it is too cold for the Buick tub and shower. frown.gif

Oh well, unhook the water pump and play "Spin the Lamb." After all, that's the important part! laugh.gif Dave!

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Stevo: The was funny. You're making me hungry.

Anyway, to get way off topic, I was working on my De Soto last night and I realized my Buick's are not that rusty at all compared to this one. There's a whole lot a car missing there. Anyway, Dorothy and Frankie are still waiting patiently. I'm planning on getting Dorothy off the frame in the next few weeks. Gotta move some stuff around in the garage.

Dave: Posting pictures all the time on my blog and gallery. Best place to look. And, thanks for all of those pictures of your toys. I'm humbled!

Gary

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1DandyDaves</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll tune up the fiddle and rosin up the bow, bring along the banjo and a guitar or two.

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If you get tired I can bring The Boss (AGOBG) and she can fiddle around for a while...we have one of the violins my father played, not to mention the two small rentals for the young'uns, although they are learning to play the violin, as opposed to fiddling around.

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Yeeee Haaaa....... I was a thinkin maybe we could get some more pictures of "Girls on Buicks" too. wink.gif

Well fellers -N- Gals, It seems like we got Gary out of his depression and back on track. laugh.gif Dave!

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