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can anyone tell me what a fair price for rechroming of a typical front or rear bumper on a mid fifties Buick or similar size car. say it is in fair condition with some surface rust but not pitted and has a couple quarter size dents less than 1/4 inch deep.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bhigdog</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Or you can go to Bumper Boyz and get what you pay for.......Bob </div></div>

I recently bought 2 bumpers for my '60 Met from Bumper Boyz. I would recommend them, but don't buy without looking at them first. I wouldn't except the first front one they showed me. The next one at a latter date was good.

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i got front bumper done for $900. rear bumper cost $800. both from a 54 buick. they did a great job. this was done in 2006. librandi's did the work. on a later job they were way off on time estimete. i asked why and was told my work got put back because they put others in front of me. when i complained to the owner he told me to take my work somewhere else.

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So we're just going to let someone use a substandard service and stay quiet? If the Acme brake company parts fail coming down Pikes Peak, I'm not going to tell anyone to use them. crazy.gif<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PJHeizmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just a reminder, folks. The policy of the AACA Forum is not to be the media for negative comments concerning experiences with any and all vendors.

Thank you in advance.

PJH </div></div>

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I do think this is outrageous. Where else can the classic car community go to exchange information regarding services, parts suppliers or other vendors whoses negative attitude, costs and shoddy workmanship are a detriment to our hobby and wallets? I for one have a tale to tell evreything from gut wrenching classic car transporters to folks that claim there are classic car restoration specialist. I guess in the world of political correctiveness and "lawyered up" forums, we are left to our own "caveat emptor"... Sad

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The Chrysler forum has a section dedicated to discussion of vender service and quality. Their post guide lines are as follows....... "Please keep to the facts, and post in an adult manner. Namecalling, hearsay and outright slanderous posts will be removed."

Personally, I think this forum is doing it's members a disservice by being OVERLY sensitive about negative comments concerning vendors. If someone is doing shoddy work or ripping members off we should be told about it. Likewise if someone is doing a great job why not let everyone know about it.

I recently asked about a specific re-chrome shop in this forum because I was considering sending them some work. I was warned that negative comments would likely be deleted. That's doing ME a dis-servise.

I say adopt the exact same parameters as the Chrysler form. And in fact start a vendor section, good and bad. Quite a few of the vendor comments are positive on the Chrysler forum. It does not seem to be a problem for them and I would guess its both saved it's members from some of the predatory vendors out there and steered them to quality vendors..........Bob

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It was me who sent Bob the PM about our need to police this subject. Many of the posters on our forums are not AACA members and may not care less what legal rammifications we have in allowing negative posts. Many members may not realize that we have had discussions and advice from our legal counsel as well. Rules are NOT made lightly. This is far from being outrageous when you use common sense to understand the world we live in today. Our forums are a free service to hobbyists and we have every right to protect our ability to continue hosting this site.

It is the job of our moderators to protect AACA as in the end it will be us that has to defend itself against a lawsuit since we made the posts public. We have NO way of knowing for sure the validity of any of the posts.

This is a very subjective and we have to watch the posts. Peter and I just made a warning that posts cannot cross a line that we feel could cause the club problems.

Gentlemen this is 2007 and AACA is expected by its members to be prudent in how the business of the club is run. You guys can PM all you want and help each other out. Do magazines allow these kinds of "posts"? No, most do not and for a very good reason.

Your understanding of our position would be appreciated!

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There's nothing saying that you can't tell someone that "hey I used XXX Chrome and had excellent service, etc." That looks better for that company, that someone was pleased with thier service and I don't think they want to take you to court over that. It also looks better for the AACA that we are "praising" (used loosely here) for someone's service than to bash someone for bad service. If an "outsider" comes on here and there are posts claiming good service, that person probably will use one of those companies.

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That seems fair enough. Praise for the good companies. I would also encourage members to use Hemmings. Use advertisers for Chrome services in Hemmings, then if you have an issue, they (Hemmings) will act as an advocate on your behalf, and although rare among the better companies with infrequent complaints, Hemmings will remove really bad companies. Typically, when a company gets an intervention from Hemmings, they will respond.

Chroming is as much an art as it a process, and like with all services, the general quality is going down industrywide as old timers bow out and costs get tightened.

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I'm not sure the legal rational holds water, Steve. A magazine will not print negatives because the magazine ITSELF would be speaking. All the AACA is doing is providing an electronic bulletin board. The forum being liable for someone elses mis-statements would be the same as a grocery store being liable for something that was posted on the bulletin board many keep in their lobby. Carried to it's extreme your last post would make the AACA culpable for slanderous statements since it could be seen as an invitation. Another extreme example would be the AACA being held liable if someone gave bad advive on the forum and a follower of said advice got hurt.

My feelings here is that the AACA is wearing a belt, suspenders, and velcro and the forum users are being denied information that would be very useful.

I still say let the free flow of information commence as long as it follows the guide lines in the Chrysler forum I mentioned in my last post......Respectfully.......Bob.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> and....if someone says "I used XYZ company and if you want to know my experience please PM me" We have no problem with that... </div></div>

Bob, the statement above from Steve has been the normal way of us doing business since Misc Chat was shut down.

Pm's and personal e-mails can provide members with concerns with the same service as public discourtesies without causing us publicity/liability problems.

Wayne

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Steve Moskowitz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Many members may not realize that we have had discussions and advice from our legal counsel as well. </div></div>

There is no shortage of Philadelphia lawyers in PA.

Common sense might be another story . .

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Bob, I am not sure what your legal background is but your logic is not entirely wrong nor do I believe it entirely correct. If you want to do battle with our law firm you are welcome to it!

However, our discussions on this topic are more than what is legally right or what is wrong but "risk management". No matter what, we do not need to expose ourselves to potential suits that we could possibly "win" the battle but lose the war financially. I know of businesses that have closed due to lawsuits based upon costs or increased insurance premiums. This is just not necessary when there are other alternatives! We have been advised to police ourselves in our magazine and on the web accordingly.

There have been other solutions offered here that would accomplish the same result so no free flow of information is being curtailed. A post could be very easily worded "I am looking for a good quality widget restorer that is competitive in pricing. Recommendations greatly appreciated. If you have had any bad experiences with widget restorers please private message me or send email to widgetman@widgets.com"

I plead guilty to the belts, suspenders, Velcro, staples, duct tape train of thought when it comes to the protection of our club. Sorry, but 35 years in business has taught me a lot.

I guess this may be one case where we will have to agree to disagree. You are still OK since you are an Olds guy, too! grin.gif

Respectfully as well,

Steve

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Amen to what you are saying Steve. Sometime I will tell you about the time I was sued by my potential unborn children! Better to place limits on postings than risk legal entanglements that would sap time and resources from the club. I am involved in local government in a small town. We spend an inordinate amount of time simply trying to protect ourselves from liability. It's a constant concern that can no longer be ignored, even by a "harmless" organization like AACA.

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Roger all that. Maybe Shakespere had it right when he said "First we kill all the lawyers". Now don't go deleteing the above. It's not hate speech, It's qualified with a maybe, not copywrited, it's not how I personally feel, and some of my best friends are lawyers........Bob

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