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  1. This is cool. 1934 Dodge DR Convertible Coupe Former "Best of Show" -AACA Nationals- "First Place Winner" Meadow Brook Concours d'Elegance Impressive, rare, and incredibly well preserved since the complete and accurate restoration prior to winning two of the most coveted Show awards in the country. At the time S. Ray Miller of Indiana was presenting his '34 Dodge DR at prestigious shows, he also owned and managed "One of the Ten Best Small Automobile Museums In the Country" -Car Collector Magazine. The resources to own the "Best" were at his disposal. He made several contributions of vehicles to the Auburn Cord Duesenberg Museum in Auburn Indiana. Failing health caused the sale of his remaining $6,000,000 collection in 2004. At that time, the buyer of this '34 DR paid $72,600. A testament to the quality and integrity of the restoration is simply its current condition. Our seller has thoroughly enjoyed many moments of great pride of ownership with this beautiful "work of art" from the 1930s, and now, is ready to pass stewardship to the next fortunate owner. You will always love having this masterpiece within viewing distance, yes, although just as important, this Convertible Coupe is well sorted and is ready to enjoy driving immediately upon arrival to your door. From our seller: "Wow, it has been an honor to own this 1934 Dodge DR Convertible Coupe. There were only 1,239 of this model built, in 1934. This is an amazing, fully restored example of this beautiful body style. It is still as stunning today as it was when it was restored, and judged "Best of Show" at the Antique Automobile Club of America event and 1st Place Winner at the Meadow Brook Concours d'Elegance in 1994. The two-tone yellow paint and pin stripping provide amazing accents and color contrast. The chrome is perfect and the 216 CID inline 6 cylinder engine and the 3-speed transmission work perfectly together. It is almost impossible to use the word perfect when it comes to selling any vehicle, but this vehicle for its age and condition comes very close." Notable Highlights include: Special Yellow with a Tan Convertible Top "Natural" Brown Leather Interior Rear Mounted Travel Trunk Dual Side Mounted Spares w/Covers Dual Horns and Headlights Steel Spoke Wheels Leaping Ram Hood Ornament (First Year) Basic information available from searchable information sources: 1934 Dodge DR Deluxe Six Series Convertible Coupe Type: DR Deluxe Six Series Convertible Coupé Engine: 3569cc straight-6 L-Head Power: 82 bhp / 3.600 rpm Speed: 100 km/h Production time: 1934 Production outlet: 1,239 Curb weight: 1380 kg DR Models Two-door Business Coupe 8,723 R/S Coupe 5,323 Convertible Coupe 1,239 Sedan 7,308 Special Information: - The 1934 Dodge lineup was typical of early 1930s styling, sharing some (Chrysler) corporate technical highlights like hydraulic brakes, synchromesh transmission, a new independent front suspension system, three trim levels, a new streamlined V-type radiator, skirted fenders in both the front and the rear, large bullet-shaped chrome plated headlamps (a pair of “Trippe” lights) and an unusual lever-operated two-way vent window, which disappeared after the 1934 model year. - It also had a new “leaping ram” type hood ornament. - It has a helical selective sliding three-speed manual gearbox (floor shift), wood grain dashboard, a Stromberg EX-22 single-barrel downdraft carburetor, a 6-Volts electric system, Delco-Remy distributor and coil ignition system, floor mats, dual external horns, a single plate power type dry disc clutch (9 7/8 inches), rubber step pads and rear-wheel drive. - The steel chassis (X-type full frame with a double-drop bridge type and a seven-inch deep channel) has a steel body, a 117-inch wheelbase, a hood with three horizontal louvers, with lengths following the upper portion of the front fenders, worm & double roller steering (semi-irreversible), independent suspension with semi-elliptic leaf springs (protected with metal covers at the rear), hydraulic shock absorbers (front were double-acting), solid front axle and a semi-floating type live rear axle, internal four-wheel hydraulic 10 inches drum brakes and steel wheels, tire size 6.25 x 16. - Steel spoke wheels were optional, selective cam-and-roller free-wheeling, both front and rear bumpers, metal "side mount" covers, bumper guards, a spot lamp, a chrome radiator shell, exterior rearview mirrors, metal spare tire cover, body pinstriping, and special paint. From Hemmings Motor News/Hemmings Classic Car (May 2008): For the 1934 model year, Dodges were heavier, longer, and had more powerful engines than their predecessors. The basic Dodge, the DR "DeLuxe" series, had a 117-inch wheelbase, while the larger, more expensive DS "DeLuxe Special" series rode on a longer 121-inch wheelbase; both models have large teardrop-shaped headlamp nacelles, styled hood louvers and skirted fenders, which make these cars very attractive. A lower-priced model created to meet the needs of the Depression-era market was the DRXX "Standard Six;" it was offered with a painted radiator shell, no safety glass, and no pinstriping. However, according to John Bittance, editor of Dodge Brothers Club News, "the DRXX wasn't very popular, probably because it was just $20 less than a DR model."Within its price class, these Dodge models offered a heavier frame, all-steel body and Chrysler-engineered engine, transmission, suspension, and hydraulic brakes, including full cooling and oiling systems. "This is why Dodge Brothers cars were preferred by performance demonstrators, such as the Hell Drivers," John said.While the aftermarket for Dodges may not be as strong as that for the early Ford V-8 models, there are plenty of enthusiasts and used parts out there to help restore and maintain a '34 Dodge.Here at Hemmings, we have a 1934 Dodge panel truck that has made three cross-country treks in the last four years; we competed with it in The Great Race and experienced no mechanical breakdowns. This panel truck shares the same straight-six engine and mechanicals as the sedans, so we know firsthand just how reliable and durable these Dodges are. Vin: 3709215 Body Number: DR20071S
  2. 1948 Dodge Shell oil Tanker - $6950 - Anoka, MN 1948 Shell oil gas tanker 6 cyl standard 4 speed,, Shell oil # 41761, Title was lost long ago selling on a bill of sale, The engine Turns Over but has No Spark. Came for the factory Color Red Shell oil painted It Yellow now it is Blue. 06808 miles. Contact: Dennis (651) 4-six-4-8-5-four-3 Copy and paste in your email: I have no personal interest or stake in the eventual sale of this 1948 Dodge Shell oil Tanker . Note: How's this for an oddity?
  3. I picked up a binder of wiring diagrams. They were originally published in Automobile Digest so that repairmen could remove them and build up a collection in these binders. These ones span the years 1920 - 1925 and it seems like most American makes are included. See the (long) list below. If you need any of these, let me know and I'll scan it for you. Send me a PM with your email address. Peter Make Models Date Allen 41 1920 Allen 43 1920 American C 1920 Anderson Six Series 30 1920 Apperson 6-16, 8-16, 6-17, 8-17 1924 Apperson Eight 1920 Auburn 6-39, 6-54 1920-21 Auburn 6-43 1924 Biederman Truck 1924 Bijur 1924 Brisco Four-Thirty-Four 1920 Buick Four 1923 Buick Four 1924 Buick Six Model 41 1923 Buick Six 1924 Buick Standard Six Model 25 1925 Cadillac V-63 1924 Cadillac V-63 1924 Chalmers Six Thirty 1922 Chandler SS Chandler 1920 Chandler 1922 Chandler Six 1923 Chevrolet F A Chevrolet F B Chevrolet Four-Ninety Double contact system Chevrolet Four-Ninety, G Single contact system Chevrolet Superior Chevrolet T Cleveland 40 1922 Battery ignition Cleveland 40 1922 Bosch Magneto ignition Cleveland Six 1923 Cole Eight Series 870 Columbia Light Six 1923 Cunningham V-4 1922 Davis 81 1925 Davis 71, 72, 73, 74, 75 Dixie Flyer H Dodge 1923 Dodge Dorris Six-Eighty 1922 Dort 10, 15 Dort 14, 19 Durant Four A22 1922 Earl 40 1922 Elcar D4, H4, G4, K4 1922 Elcar D6, H6, G6, K6 1922 Elcar 1923 Elgin Six H 1920 Elgin Six K 1921 Battery ignition Elgin Six K 1921 Magneto Ignition Essex A 1922 Essex Four 1923 Essex Six 1924 Flint Six E 1924 Ford T 1922 Franklin Series 10 (Early) Gardner Four 1922 Garford Motor Bus Grant K H.C.S. Series 4 Model 6 1925 H.C.S. Four Series 2, 3, 4, Model 4 Handley-Knight A 1922 Harroun AA Haynes 60 1924 Haynes 75 Haynes 50, 55 Haynes Twelve 46, 48 1924 Hudson Super-Six 1924 Hudson Super-Six Model O Hupmobile R-12 1924 Hupmobile Series R-1, 2, 3 Hupmobile Six Series E International Truck S Jordan F 1920 Jordan MX Serial number 20001 - … Jordan Six H 1925 King H, J, K, L, IJ 1920 - 1923 Kissell Custom Built Six 1922 Kissell Custom Built Six 1924 Kline-Kar 6-55 1922 LaFayette 134 Lexington Closed cars 1919 - 1923 Lexington Open cars 1919 - 1923 Liberty Six 10D Lincoln 1923 Lincoln Cars Locomobile 48 Series 7 Marmon 34 1923 Maxwell 25 Maxwell 1923 McFarlan Series X 1920 Mercer Series 5 1923 Meteor Ambulance Metz Master Six 1922 Mitchell E 1920 Mitchell F 1922 Mitchell F-40 Monroe S9, S10 Moon 6-40 Moon 6-46 1924 Moon 1924 Nash 161 1925 Nash 681 Nash Special Six Model 131 Nash Six Series 691 Nash Six Series 691 National Sextet Series BB 1923 Oakland 34C Oakland Six 34B Oakland Six 6-54 1924 Oldsmobile 43A 1923 Oldsmobile 45B 1922 Oldsmobile Six 30 1925 Overland 90 Overland Four 91 Packard Single Eight 1923, 1924 Packard Single Six 1922 Packard Straight Eight 136, 143 1925 Packard Twin Six Series 2-25, 2-35 Paige Six Forty-Two and Four, Model 15-19 single switch for all lamps Paige Six Forty-Two and Four, Model 15-19 separate switch for side lamps Paige Six Forty-Two and Four, Model 15-19 Remy system Paige Six Sixty-Six Model 17-20 Gray & Davis system Paige Six Sixty-Six Model 17-20 Remy system Paterson Six-Fifty 1922 Peerless 56, Series 5 Peerless Eight 1924 Peerless Six 70 1925 Piedmont 6-40 Pierce Arrow Enclosed cars Serial number 331001 - 339999 Pierce Arrow Open cars Serial number 331001 - 339999 Premier 6D Premier Taxicab R & V Knight H 1924 REO T6 Series C REO Six T6, U6 REO Speedwagon F REO Speedwagon F Republic Truck Model 10 Express 1925 Rickenbacker A Rickenbacker B 1924 Rickenbacker Series A Vertical 8 Rickenbacker Vertical Eight 1925 Roamer 6-54-E Rolls-Royce 1923 Saxon Six S, Y Scripps-Booth Series F 1921 Sheridan Four B-40-1-2-3 Skelton 35 Star F 1924 Star Stephens 10, 20 1923 Stephens 82-3-4-5-6 single bulb lamps Stephens 82-3-4-5-6 double bulb lamps Stevens-Duryea E 1922 Studebaker EJ 1922 Studebaker EK, EL 1922 Studebaker EL, EK Studebaker EM Studebaker SH, EH, EG Stutz 6-90 closed cars 1924 Stutz 6-90 Roadster & Phaeton 1924 Stutz H Stutz K Stutz KLDH 1924 U.S.L. 12 - 6 volt 1924 U.S.L. 24 - 12 volt 1924 Velie 58 Series 2 1924 Velie Six 58 Westcott C-38, A-44 1924 Westcott C-48, D-48 1924 Westcott Six A-38 1920 Westcott Six A-48 1920 Westingouse Electric 1924 Wills Sainte Claire A-68 Closed cars 1922 Wills Sainte Claire A-68 Open cars 1922 Wills Sainte Claire 1924 Willys-Knight 20 Willys-Knight 64 - 67 Willys-Knight Eight 88-8 1924 Willys-Knight Six 89 1924 Winton Six Model 25 Limousine 1922 Winton Six Model 25 Touring 1922
  4. I’ve been on the Dodge pilot house website for many many years with a small collection of pilot house trucks. Recently my wife inherited a 1928 Dodge brothers standard six in incredible condition. Appears to be mostly original few items missing with very minimal rust and it looks to be original interior with a few small mice holes. I’m trying to get hub off the rear so I can get the tire changed and at the same time paint the wheels. I read through a different post with options on how to get it off while putting the weight from one side and hitting the other but nothing seems to help. I found this nut under the seat that fits on the axle and is about 2” long with a solid end. It appears to be the tool you would hit on to break these loose but still no luck. Any advice? I’ll try to get a picture sent of this Nut/Tool
  5. Just a quick question are any parts interchangeable between a 1929 DA Dodge and a 1928 Standard Six mainly steering box and pitman arm) I’m guessing probably not but you don’t know if you don’t ask. Thanks for any help. Cheers Ben
  6. C22 is a 1939 Chrysler Royal six cylinder. 241 cu in, 3 3/8 bore X 4 1/2 stroke, 100HP. Part of a series of engines made from 1937 or 38 up to the early seventies, used in Chrysler and DeSoto cars until 1954, in Dodge trucks until 1968 and in Dodge Power Wagon military vehicles until 1972 also Chrysler industrial and marine engines possibly as late as 1972. A version of this engine was used in Canadian made Plymouth, Dodge, DeSoto and Chrysler cars and Dodge trucks 1938 - 1959 (Cars) and possibly later in trucks. They made millions of these engines and there are still plenty in service. They are a simple engine and parts are available. A company called Vintage Power Wagons has a lot of NOS parts, but you can get practically anything you need from your local auto parts store ( it may take them a couple of days). You could take the head off and see if the cylinders are rusted up. If not, a rebuild should be a cinch. If they are it will be more difficult but they have very thick cylinder walls and you should be able to rebore and fit new pistons if the block is not cracked. Last I looked VPN was offering NOS pistons for $65 a set of 6. How good do you want it? Incidentally you can easily bore this block to 3 7/16 which was standard bore size on later versions and use stock, standard size pistons. This gives you a 250 cu in engine like postwar Chrysler and DeSoto and many Dodge trucks.
  7. You might just scroll down to the "Dodge and Dodge Brothers" section of this forum and post the question there. There will be some 1928 Standard Six owners there who can answer. I know the rim you are talking about. I have never dealt with that type.
  8. I am not 100% what the differences were between 1928 and 1929 Dodge Brothers Standard Six Cars where. Below here is a 1928 that I work on. It looks very similar to the one in the first photo above.
  9. Does the Senior 6 have a Lycoming engine? I doubt it and would not believe it without some documentation. In Chiltons Interchange 1927-33, the Auburns were shown as Lycoming engine with the engine model given. The Senior 6 had no such annotation. On the engine is shown thus The Dodge Brothers six cylinder engines : Size Bore Stroke CID Use 208 3.375 3.875 208.0 1928-1930 Dodge Brothers Victory Six/Standard Six/DA Six 224 3.250 4.500 224.0 1927 Dodge Brothers Senior Six 242 3.375 4.500 241.5 1928-1930 Dodge Brothers Senior Six / DB Senior Six There is no indication that it is other than a Dodge Brothers engine.
  10. G'day from Australia. Have a Standard Six tourer, was getting engine rebuilt, block failed crack testing (source of over-heating problem). Second block looked better, but also cracked. (Crack too large for any welding attempt.) Mate has a later Dodge/Plymouth engine (50's?) he is donating, just to check possibilities of a swap. Haven't seen the motor yet, but would be guessing a 25" block, and maybe Whatever it maybe, (picking up Friday), I realise fitting to car needs mods, but only looking at options at the moment. My main question is it- a/. possible with work. b/. not possible, to mate '28 trans to the later engines? Have read posts regard later engine to '33 trans, are there any differences that make the swap not doable? (DA block a possibility, still need front mods), not looking at later engine for speed, just driveability. cheers.
  11. I think it is a 1928 Dodge Brothers Standard Six sedan....
  12. Looks like a 1927 or 1928 Dodge Brothers Standard Six to me.
  13. Just pulled from a garage in Seattle after sitting for over thirty years. Was represented as complete. I am thinking that it is pretty much all there but disassembled. The old guy across the alley said that it came from Kansas and had a recent motor over haul. Turn easily with the crank. From what I can gather the car was trailered from Kansas and taken apart then ignored. I have what I think is the title and some receipts from the State of Washington for title fees as well as death certificates and such. Also a bill of sale to me from the personal representative. some of my observations Rebuilt wheels with new tires. 5 Not sure about brakes, but I see some rods in the pile. Rebuilt starter, never installed The radiator looks like it may have had some work, a cleaning at least. Only rust observed is at the lower corners of the cowl and has been patched a long time ago. (pics) There are a couple of tears in the cowl, one on each side in the same place. I think you should be able to see the one on the drivers side. Fender are very straight with no serious rust. Running boards not so nice but are present. Rolls easily I have found all of the door handles and window cranks. Seats are all present but not usable as are all of the door panels. Several boxes of parts, Headlights, tail lite, cowl lights, nuts and bolts, brackets, etc. (not shown) Moto meter radiator cap On and on. Come and take a look. It is located between Portland and Salem now. I could deliver as long as its in the northwest for a fee and some help. asking a reasonable $3100. Please PM thru the forum.
  14. Hi folks, I posted this in the Bodge Brothers Forum but thought I would try here too. Incase someone has any ideas. I am in need of 4 quantity brake cables for mechanical brakes on a 1928 Dodge Brothers Standard Six. If anyone has any ideas on a source, please let me know. Pic of cables here. Thanks, Keith
  15. Hello everybody, I recently acquired a 1929 Dodge Brothers Standard Six. My problem is locating the body number. I have the motor number, I have the frame number, (they don't match) I have no tag on the dash, and no plate on the floor board. I have sanded all the paint off the pass post, both sides, front and middle post and can not find any numbers. Where else can I look? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!!
  16. This thread is not about the Dodge ON the trailer, I want to PULL the trailer with it. My four year old daughter does car shows with me in our 28 Dodge. Last season she entered her power wheels along side the real car and had a blast. I want to be able to tow her power wheels to the show with the old Dodge, a 28 standard six. I'm looking at an early 1900s wood wagon with wood spoked wheels. Two axles and I think the front turns. Weight won't be an issue. As it will be pretty much empty all the time. I'm curious what would have passed for a trailer hitch back in the day? With a split bumper and a fuel tank in the back, how would one go about attaching one? If you a curious about the power wheels, it's a pink Cadillac Escalade. I'm outfitting it with functioning lights, underglow, 7" touch screen multimedia recieved, upgraded speakers, upholstered seats, gauges, anything a real car has, plus a bunch more battery power to run the electronics
  17. Yes it is a Victory Six touring in standard trim with wire wheel option. There were touring cars sold in the U.S., and yours appears to be a Budd bodied export. The color may be Dauphine Red and Manitoba brown. These colors were offered on roadsters, and since it is most likely that roadsters and touring cars came down the same assembly line, it is possible that a touring car snuck by with roadster colors. However, this color scheme on your car was not announced by the factory. Of course this does not matter; you just need to enjoy this car. It is beautiful! The brass work on your car is a fantasy, since all the brightwork was chrome, but it looks like fun as it is. The touring car was offered in standard trim (like yours) and in sport trim. The difference was that the sport models had spare wheels in the fenders (sidemounts), cowl lights, and a trunk rack on the back. However, your car, in standard trim, is more rare than the sport model. Both types of touring cars are quire rare however. There was one other car like yours found in India but it was exported to Dubai where it is driven practically every day. Before it was restored, it was nearly worn out, probably having accumulated hundreds of thousands of miles. The owner shipped it to the U.S. for restoration. Tom Myers, (Google Myers Early Dodge) sells a CD containing an enormous amount of information about your car. It costs only $10 US. I highly suggest you buy it.
  18. The last year for a full-size standard manual shift US car was 1973, and the car offering it was the Chevrolet (Bel Air model). Interestingly, that car was also available in six cylinders, and in fact, if you wanted the six, the only available transmission was the column-mounted three speed manual. I believe this is the only example of a 1970's US full size car that was available only with a manual transmission. What prompts this posting is that I actually recently saw a '73 Bel Air with the 3-speed/6 cylinder at a local car show. I would guess that less than 1000 of these were actually produced. That got me to thinking: Between the years 1955 and 1973, which Big Three full-size US cars offered the manual transmission (either 3 or 4-speed), and how many have I actually seen (I was 8 years old in 1955); not photographs, but the actual car itself. Here's my tally, showing the car and the years between 1955 and 1973 that I have not seen the car in manual shift form: Chevrolet: 1969, 1972 Pontiac: 1956,1959, 1960, 1965,1967, 1968-1973 Buick: 1955, 1957,1959-1962, 1965, 1967-1973 Olds: 1956-1973 Cadillac: 1955-1973 Ford: 1968-1970,1972,1973 Mercury: 1958, 1959, 1960, 1962-1973 Plymouth: 1968-1973 Dodge: 1955, 1956, 1958, 1966, 1969, 1971-1973 DeSoto: 1956-1961 (last year of production) Chrysler: 1955-1960, 1964-1973 Would be interested in the experience for other Forum members.
  19. I have just discovered one of the lifter screws has broken ,fortunately there is no damage to my Senior. The part number is 200418, the same as the Standard Six. Is there anyone who has this part for sale?
  20. Hello everyone, I am hoping someone will b able to help me with some parts I need. Window glass carrier for all windows except the two rear small windows, (the part that the window sits on only). I have the crank that moves the window up/down. Thanks for looking at my request
  21. In 1928 the series 128 four cylinder and the Standard Six and the Victory Six all had all steel bodies , the only wood that was used was to hold the trim and the insert for the roof . The Senior for this year was a wood and steel coach body built by Murphy for Dodge Brothers . So it is correct to say that Dodge Brothers had all steel bodies in this year and the years before these . bob
  22. That was in the old cars weekly link you posted: When equipped with standard size tires, the Senior Six was designated Series 2251; with oversize tires, Series 2252." I guess that the larger tires may also explain why the truck model chart above only had the 2249 and the 2252 listed. Makes sense I guess.... still wish we had some factory or brochure photos of the Senior Six engines so I can compare them to truck info... I just don't understand why a select few trucks in the D series had a completely different numbering system for the serial numbers for this short period of time. This was the last time they used the Graham Brothers name plates according to the Dodge Story page 64 so maybe that is relevant somehow ? ….. But then the question is, why did it not apply to all D series trucks, why did the shorter serial numbers only apply to the ED, OD, TD, JD and YD ? Could it be because this was the first time a 6 cylinder truck was produced and combined with phasing out the GB name they felt they had to label these completely different? All other trucks prior to the ED were 4 cylinder. Very interesting to say the least... More questions than I'll ever get answers for I guess... As a research nut, it is very disappointing that we cannot get access to the WPC museum to help answer some of these questions that only they know.
  23. 1928 To 29 Dodge Brothers 128, fast four and Standard Six And Victory Six and some Senior Six cars,. I have about 25 of them in all conduitions and have used them in Dodge Brothers cars for the past 40 years
  24. I have for sale all the mechanical parts for a 1928 Dodge Standard Six 4 door sedan. Engine turns free. Front axle, Rear axle, transmission. Clutch assembly. Torque tube & driveshaft. All accessories on engine. Carb, starter, generator, manifolds. 4 wood wheels, solid, no rot. Tires are junk. Demountable rims. We didnt try to get it started. I'm sure that there is a restorer that would dearly love to have this drivetrain. Price is $400. We are in Western Michigan. Call Mr. Mike 269.953.2691 Monday -Thursday 9am-8pm. I'd hate to sell this to the scrapyard!
  25.'s the 1929 "Standard Six" Dodge Brothers sedan. You can tell it's a 1929 because of the cowl reveal that goes from the belt molding and loops down to the cowl trim....