Terry Wiegand

Tom, I have two of these Delco Piece Parts Catalogs for Buick that I would trade you straight across for your Delco Catalog for one of mine. I could bring it with me to Chickasha. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

Brian, I would say that that is a pretty good testament to the original engineering that Mr. Marr put into the Buick automobile and that the person and/or persons who did the valve train rebuilding might have known a little bit about what they were doing. Good on you!! Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

Here are a couple of photos of the heat 'muff' that rides the exhaust pipe and gets heated air sucked into the carburetor. The end on the flexible tube fitting has a means of adjustment for the heated air going into the engine. All D-40 Series Buicks left Flint with this in place. I am very thankful to be able to have these pieces for the car. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

Bob and Mark, I need to apologize to everyone about part of my earlier comment. I got in a hurry and got my facts screwed up. I will say that Bob does not have the correct Marvel unit on his 1917 D-45 and stand by that. I believe that what he does have is the correct Marvel for a 1920 K-40 Series Buick. That IS what is on my 1920 K-46 and I am posting photos of that carburetor. The 1920 Six had a single heat tube coming off the exhaust manifold that went into the heat chamber on the carburetor upper body. I do not know exactly what was used on the 1921 Sixes (maybe Pete Jolly can enlighten us), however my 1922 has the double heat tubes coming off the exhaust manifold diversion valve. I do not want to mislead anyone with incorrect information about what should and should not be used in this situation. The 1916 D-45 that I have was 100% complete when it came to the engine. I had the folks at Classic Carburetors in Phoenix go through everything that was connected to the intake manifold that pertained to the Marvel Carburetor. I left the heat muff and flexible tube that ran from the exhaust pipe into the carburetor intake off on the advice of those who told me that it might create problems with the modern fuels that are in use today. I will post photos of that in a day or two when it warms up and I can get into the shop. My 1922 Model 48 has the very same 'barrel choke' on its carburetor as what Bob has. I will let the photos do the talking now. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

Bob, I am having a hard time trying to figure out why you have a Marvel Carburetor with the 'barrel type' of choke assembly on your engine. The 1916 and 1917 engines were very similar except for the rocker post/arm assemblies. I am not sure exactly when Buick engines went to the type of choke system that is on your engine. My 1920 engine is not like your choke system. My 1922 IS like what you have. I would suspect that the carburetor on your engine has been changed out (upgraded) at some point in time. Here is a photo of the Marvel unit that is original to our early 1916 D-45. I am just not sure why you have what you do on your engine. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

I can certainly go along with Mr. Beck's comment above. However, that thinking needs to be expanded a bit. Little children and puppies are two of the greatest things that God ever came up with. We want to introduce you to Miss Muggins - The Amazing Wonder Pup. She absolutely loves going with us in the old Buick and the folks watching get as much fun out of her antics as they do seeing the car. Terry and Barbara Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

So that everyone can see the photo that is in the Bugle, here is the photo that Luke took that Saturday we had lunch in downtown Buhler, Kansas. This was the maiden drive for the D-45 after 46+ years. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

Pete, The rim wedges have the names cast into them. Our 1916 has BAKER cast into them. Our 1920 and 1922 have BUICK cast into them. There was also a company by the name of PERLMAN that supplied wheels to Buick and possibly other General Motors divisions at this same time period. I don't think that this lasted very long though. I'm sure that there are others who are more knowledgeable about this than I am. My thinking is that if you know which wheels you have it may be helpful in trying to get that particular split rim for your particular wheel. There is a fellow by the name of Layden Butler who frequents the forums a lot and he has a bunch of the old wheel and wheel parts catalogs that he helps folks out with information on here. He is in California and is an HCCA member. If you will send me a PM I will give you his phone number. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

Pete, Are the wheels and rims on your car Jaxon? Our '16 has Baker wheels and the '20 and '22 have Jaxon wheels. I have never seen a split rim locking mechanism like what you have before. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

I have gotten quite a few grins and laughs out of this topic's postings. The terms 'show cars' and 'trailer queens' very quickly come to mind here. I once belonged to this car club that is operated on the idea that My Checkbook is Bigger Than Yours and therefore my car is better than yours will ever be. I personally know of several of these cars that are owned by a few members that do not even run. They are pushed from the trailer onto the show field, they get their much sought after award, and are then pushed back into the trailer. I personally do not see any fun in that whatsoever. When I put our '16 Buick back together so that it could get back on the road, I tried my hardest and best to do things correctly and carefully. Was I able to do every single thing myself? - absolutely not. Having the engine rebuilt, having paintwork done, and having plating work completed were but a few things that I was not capable of doing myself. When the car was finished up and finally able to be driven it was not considered to be a 'perfect' automobile and it never will be. It is as nice as I am capable of getting it to be and we will try our hardest to take very good care of it and maintain it as best that we can. For myself, personally, there is a huge amount of satisfaction in being able to put things back into working order and do things in such a way that the result shows the effort that went into the restoration. I took the car to East Moline last Summer for the AACA Central Fall Meet. It won a National Award the first and only time that it has ever been shown. I'm pretty proud of the ol' gal for that. I'm really not into the judging mentality like some folks are. We simply wanted to have the car looked at just one time to sorta make sure that things were done right. The judging folks must have liked what they saw because they gave the car some recognition. From this point forward it is all about driving the car and having tons of fun doing that. If you cannot drive these old vehicles what is the point. Just one persons point of view here. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

Where's the order form? Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

Pete Phillips sent me a copy of the February Bugle with Luke Chennell's 1923 Model 41 article in it. That car is really amazing in the respect that it is almost 100% original and is a really unusual bodied automobile. He took the photo of our cars when we had our D-45 out for its first drive out of town after getting it all back together. I simply cannot thank him enough for the help he gave with getting the Marvel carburetor adjusted so that the engine could be started and then get it dialed in to the point that the engine starts and runs really well. He did a very nice job with highlighting the details about the '23 Buicks and talking about his car in some detail. The very last sentence tells it like it is with these cars - "it takes some ingenuity and skills to keep something like this on the road, but the enjoyment is well worth the time spent." That is an understatement of the highest order! I am here to say that it takes both hands, both feet, and then some to guide one these automobiles down the road. People honking, waving, and hollering at you makes for an unforgettable experience. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

That is a very nice looking Buick. We will all hope that it runs as well as it looks. The Early and/or Pre-War Buicks enthusiasts are a group of very knowledgeable guys that will be able to help you with just about any question that you will come up with. I will repeat what was said earlier, welcome to Early Buicks Heaven and by all means enjoy the ride. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

Rusty, Thank you for the address update. I have not spoken with Russ at the last two Chickasha Swap Meets and was unaware of his address change. Hopefully this will get things to him. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

I have a 1916 Buick 5-Passenger Touring with a composite wood firewall. The material is tongue and grooved White Ash with a thin veneer layer on both sides. Why Fisher Body went that route instead of just making the firewall out of a little thicker solid material is totally beyond me, but this was what was done back then. If this were me, I would go the solid board White Ash route and if necessary, tongue and groove the edges to get the proper width needed. I would go out on that proverbial limb and say that a hardwood plywood would be more expensive than solid material. Ask yourself what Fisher Body did back then and I think you will have your answer. There are Hardwood Material Suppliers out there. Do a Google search and see what White Ash is in different thicknesses per board foot. I think you might be surprised. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

Jeb, You did a fantastic job with the photographs. I had a pretty good idea of what you were telling me about, but the photos put everything in perspective. You had better be careful - those two '21's will become jealous🤣 Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

Here is something to think about. There should be saw kerfs about 1 1/2 to 2 inches apart on the bottom sides of the running boards. This was done on the boards when the cars left the factory. This was done to keep the boards from cupping due to driving in the rain on a wet roadway. Now would certainly be the time to do this while the boards are off the hangers. I can post a photo or two to show how this looks on our '16 D-45. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

A long time friend called me yesterday and suggested that I should enroll the Buick with CarShield. I told him that I did not think that that would be an option. He shot back and said that the car has been completely rebuilt and that I really should look into this. Some folks have waaaay too much time on their hands🤣. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

NOPE! Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

Terry, Thank you for the information. I have always had the feeling that this piece was old, but, I had no idea where to go or look to find out anything about it. I lost my Dad 25 years ago and I never thought to ask him what he paid for it. Going on 60 years ago it probably wasn't very much and things like this were still around if you looked a little bit at the swap meets. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

Andy, The cross end of the spring evidentially did not get down into the slot far enough to fully engage. This is the only reasonable explanation that can be offered. The inside diameter of the new spring(s) is going to be opened up to .765" to make sure that it will go over the drive end of the upper shaft. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

I have been following this thread and have really seen some interesting pieces. Please keep in mind that I am not a watch fob collector. However, I have one that came from my Dad and I would like to know more about it and what you guys can tell me about it. My Dad got this piece at the AACA Lawrence Swap Meet in Lawrence, Kansas in probably 1964 or 1965. I believe it to be a real fob because of the maker's mark on the back side. He gave this to me in late 1990 when he gave the 1916 Buick to Barbara and myself. It has laid in my desk drawer for 30+ years and I know absolutely nothing about it. I need to take this down to our one local jeweler and have him put the loupe on it to see what is in the mark on the back side. The other piece (not a fob) is a Delco piece that I picked up on evil bay about 10 years ago. It is Bakelite and measures 1.500" in diameter and is .250" thick. It states 'COMPLIMENTS OF THE SEASON 1916 - 1917' Can anyone tell me anything about this piece? Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

Mark, That's really interesting how the inside of the body has the backing plates for the fender bolts. When I removed and replaced the fenders on our '16 I wondered just how the inside of the body might have looked. Now I know. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

Rock, there is NOT going to be another episode😂! This one was way more than enough! 37McBuick, the top end of the spring (driven by the camshaft) was where the problem was at. The spring simply did not get engaged far enough into the drive slot to make a really secure connection. Opening the inside diameter of the spring up slightly will ensure that everything gets seated where it is supposed to be. There was no damage to either the drive end or the driven end of the oil pump shafts. Really got lucky with how things happened. Mr. Minnie down in Florida is taking care of the strainer screen on the pump for me. This whole thing has me just shaking my head because the guys at Abrahams Machine in Davenport did an absolutely wonderful job with rebuilding the engine. Once we got the timing and carburetor issues sorted out the engine just runs perfect. I will post photos of all the parts and pieces before it all goes back together. Just about forgot this point - the wire in the spring did not break. It simply unwound itself from what was in the shaft slot. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918

The thing that just blows my mind is the fact that there is over 400 miles on the engine before this decides to happen. It is obvious that the shop did not know about this when they were putting the engine back together. When the oil pump body goes into the oil pan there is nothing that can be seen from that point on. All I can say is - we just got lucky - real lucky. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918