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  1. 2 hours ago, Brass is Best said:

    The world has been going to end my entire life. The date just keeps getting pushed back and miraculously if we give up something or pay money, we can push the date back more. Expiration dates come and expire and a new one is given by the same folks who gave the last one. But we have hot days, cold days, record hot days, record cold days, it still snows, it still rains, and the sun still rises in the east and sets in the west. Follow the money both ways. See where the push for the idea comes from and where your money really ends up. Then ask yourself why does that group want this. Who is funding them? Then ask who is funding them? Saying any more might get me banned. 

     

    I was more convinced when you said you didn't care!  Seriously. no one thinks the world is going to "end," or that the sun will stop rising in the east or setting in the west.  It's just that the planet is very quickly getting hotter. pretty much exactly what scientists predicted when I first studied the question 35 years ago.  i mean, the scientific models from 35 years ago nailed it, predicting the rise in temperatures a half century a head of time and exactly within the temperature range of their models.  I think that's pretty impressive.

     

    But I guess you don't visit a forum of classic car hobbyists and people who work in the classic car business to get your assessment of climate modeling, any more than you would go to a scientific conference of climate modeling and ask people how to repair a 1932 Ford carburetor.  (Maybe they have the same conspiracy theories about old cars needing repair that people here have about climate change?  Ever notice that when you take a car to a mechanic, they always find something wrong and give you a big bill?  Follow the money....)

     

    BTW, for those wondering, there are several competing models to measure overall global temperature.  They all use different data in different ways.  And they're almost an exact match every year.  The good scientific models predicting global temperature rises came around in the 1980s, before a rise in temperatures was noticeable.  

     

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  2. 4 hours ago, Steve_Mack_CT said:

    Would be interesting to understand how those per capita stats were calculated, especially if it is self reported.

     

     

     

    This is a significant focus of international climate change agreements.  The basic idea is to calculate nationwide emissions and divide by the number of people in the country.  The key question becomes devising the most accurate way to measure emissions nationwide, and there are methodologies agreed to as part of international agreements designed to do this most accurately.  The main standard was arrived at and adopted in 2006, and then slightly amended in 2019.  Here are links to the main reports on this:

     

    https://www.ipcc-nggip.iges.or.jp/public/2006gl/

     

    https://www.ipcc.ch/report/2019-refinement-to-the-2006-ipcc-guidelines-for-national-greenhouse-gas-inventories/

     

     

  3. 36 minutes ago, Brass is Best said:

    That is great. I don't care. Let 2 through 10 deal with it.

    Your lack of concern for the human race is duly noted.   Seriously, I appreciate the honesty!  

     

    As for the Hagerty program, it doesn't seem well thought out, although I don't think it adds any cost to Hagerty, either.  It seems to be just an opportunity to voluntarily pay to this "Chrome Carbon" company.  As noted, the smarter move is to donate directly to the services Chrome Carbon is giving to once they take their cut.  But I agree that carbon offsets right now are often iffy; it's very hard to know what is real and what isn't.

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  4. 12 hours ago, Brass is Best said:

    Perhaps some other countries need this program more than the USA?

     

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    I don't think that chart is useful: It only tells us a single year's estimates of changes in CO2 production for that one year.  A more obvious question to consider is overall C02 output per person, for which the top 10 C02 emitters looks like this:

     

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  5. A significant problem with the studies Peter is pointing to is that they are looking only at C02 emissions.   The environmental challenge with classic cars isn't so much the C02 emissions as it is the carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxide, ozone-producing evaporated gas and particulate matter emissions.   

     

    So the studies aren't really suggesting that classic cars are better for the environment than electric cars (which is a weird comparison anyway; classic cars are for fun, and electric cars are for transportation).  Rather, they're showing that the CO2 emissions for existing classic cars given their low use is smaller than the CO2 emissions for making electric cars.

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  6. The magic words: "I prefer the 2 door hardtop version!"

     

    If that's what you prefer, that's what you should do! 

    It's a hobby, what you prefer should be the #1 guide. 

     

    Being old car nuts is, for most of us, a quirky hobby that doesn't make a lot of sense on paper but that we do because it gives us joy.  As long as you go in knowing the likely $$ picture over the long run, and you're cool with that, then go for it.  

     

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  7. I was at a car show today with my Packard and started talking to an elderly gentleman who was admiring the car.  He had an English accent, and said that he had always admired American cars ever since his first car, which he bought when he was still living in England.  

     

    I ask what car it was, and he said it was a 1926 Studebaker roadster.  Wished he still had it, he adds.  When did you buy that, I ask?  1939, he says.  Turns out he is 101 years old.  I asked how he spent WWII, and he explained that he never left the UK; he was a guard at a POW camp for German soldiers.  

     

    You never know who might be looking at your car, or what life experiences they might have.

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  8. On 9/15/2023 at 1:22 PM, deac said:

    WOW 62,000 docket's spent on a wing and prayer.  I guess the assumption(?) is the buyer didn't go and inspect it.  I at least hope the buyer knows these cars.

    Looks like the buyer has bought 51 cars on BAT in the last 3 years, mostly Corvettes but a few CCCA cars that are older restorations.  So whoever he/she/it is, they probably have the resources to figure it out or at least aren't going to be too personally invested in it.   https://bringatrailer.com/member/ddseoe/

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  9. I've become interested in pre-war Lagonda cars, and the CCCA's list of approved Lagondas is particularly incomprehensible: 

     

    Lagonda – All through 1940 Two Post-War V-12 (except 1934-1940 Rapier,)

     

    I am trying to figure out what that means.  It might mean "All through 1940 except 1934-40 Rapier," as the Rapier was their smaller car in the mid to late 30s.  That would make sense.  But what does "Two Post-War V-12" mean?  There was no regular production post-war Lagonda V12 in the CCCA time window that I know of.  Maybe there were two of them made, and this is the way of saying that those two cars are CCCA approved?    Either way, it's really confusing. Someone should really clean these descriptions up; given that CCCA eligibility is supposed to be significant, it should be possible to know what cars are covered when you read the list of approved cars.

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  10. Rapier, 

     

    I am just now getting to this thread, which I looked for when searching for information on Lagondas.  I've been thinking I might want to get a 1930s European car at some point, and among the cars I find particularly attractive are the Delahaye 135, the Derby Bentleys, and the Lagonda LG45.  I'm mostly interested in a 4-seater convertible, so likely a cabriolet or drophead coupe (if it's a Delahaye/Bentley) or a tourer (if it's a Lagonda).  I was wondering, do you have thoughts on how those cars compare, especially to drive and to maintain?   The Bentleys seem most common, and easiest to find.  The Lagonda LG45 tourer seems a rare car, but one that comes up on the market from time to time (including this one, which seems very nice).  Your insights from your experience would be very welcome! Many thanks.

     

    -35Packard

  11. TAKerry, 

     

    There were 2,592 Delahayes produced from 1935-1952, including 1,115 built post-WWII, according to what I have read 

     

    There were also Delahayes built before 1935, but they're very different from the later cars.  it wasn't until 1935 that Delahaye made the stylish cars that you see at concours and the like.  According to Richard Adatto's book, Delahaye: Styling and Design, Delahaye turned to high end cars in 1935 on the thinking that the Depression had hurt all but the top end of the car market.  To stay in business, you needed to sell to the rich who weren't affected by the Depression.  So starting in 1935, the cars were all very expensive, all bodied by coachbuilders, etc.

     

     

  12. On 8/31/2023 at 4:17 PM, rocketraider said:

    The 914 itself wouldn't win many beauty contests...

     

    Even the Porsche snobs didn't like it. It reminded them their 911s were glorified Volkswagens at heart.

     

     

     

    Some Porsche people have come around with the passage of time, at least if you look at values since 2018.  Here's Hagerty's take on the 1971 80-hp 4-cylinder market, with #1 cars, #2, #3, and #4. 

     

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  13. 6 hours ago, Steve_Mack_CT said:

    While prewar cars are my main interest, I gotta say the first generation Mustangs have had a following and presence at shows from the mid 70s.  I recall seeing them at shows as early as 76, 77 at least.  

     

    The car in this post is one I recomended in Jake's post on potentially involving a young family friend in a restoration project.  An early Mustang is a car I have always had on my list but never really pursued.

     

    Of course I agree times are changing but that doesn't mean interests change for a lot of us here.

     

    Same view here. I've also always been an early Mustang fan; they're very attractive cars.  I had a friend in high school (late 80s) who had one, red 66 with a 289, that I lusted over.  And as @Steve_Mack_CT says, they had a long-established following even by then.

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  14. I've mentioned that I like the Pennock-bodied cars, and I found this very interesting resource online: Someone constructed histories of the various known Pennock-bodied Delahayes.  Not all of them, but a lot of them, including how they have changed over time.  Info at the link, and be sure to tell Google to translate it from the original Dutch into English. :)

     

    https://www.vincentvandervinne.nl/autos-van-delahaye-met-een-carrosserie-van-pennock/

  15. 17 hours ago, Cadillac Fan said:

     

    Looks like the Adderly Collection bought that same car in 2015 for $522K.  Eight years later, sold for $190K, minus all the fees to the auction house. Ouch.

     

     

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