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He showed them that he wouldn't take less than he thought the car was worth by destroying the car so it was worthless. Um, okay. As the old saying goes, "Don't cut off your nose to spite your face."

I have checked out that 1931 Lincoln K that Hyman's is selling, and in person it's really impressive. It's a ton of car for the money. I'm a Packard guy in the end; Lincolns are interesting to me but I'm less drawn to them than Packards. But that '31 is a cool car.

I've followed this advice before: https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2011/11/01/step-by-step-guide-to-winterizing-your-carhttps://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2011/11/01/step-by-step-guide-to-winterizing-your-car

Another way of approaching the question is to look at the cars most driven on CCCA CARavan tours. I confess I haven't been on one yet --- it's not really kid-friendly, and these days events need to be kid-friendly in our household to have a chance of happening -- but reviewing the pictures you see a lot of '41 Cadillacs and immediate post-war cars like '47 Cadillacs and '47 Packards. There seem to be fewer '27-'34 cars, but my sense is that the '34 Packards may be among the more common in that time range. Of course, all of those numbers partly reflect their relative number among CCCA cars generally: If I recall correctly from the CCCA's survey, Packards are the most popular car in the CCCA directory, followed by Cadillacs.

Sending out the bat signal for EdinMass....

Really interesting thread. I've long thought that the '38-'39 Zephyr was one of the most beautiful cars ever made. I've fiddled with the idea of getting one, but the reputation of the engine held me back. So this is helpful info.

I guess that's the problem with wanting to talk all day about antiques. The antiques are staying the same, but at least the market is always changing so there is always something to talk about.

kfle, i love what you're doing to help teach us about the Cole car. I also noted these Cole photos in the latest CCCA magazine. All neat to see.

Nice. I've long thought those are great Packards to buy.

That would depend on how the law is drafted. Of course, it's also illegal for residents to register their California-based cars out of state, but that's another discussion.

I'm in favor of seat belts in 30s cars, in large part because they help you stay in control of your car if you happen to go over uneven pavement or get in a tight turn. Because the cars have no bucket seats or other way of keeping you fixed in front of the steering wheel, a seatbelt can help you keep control. Unfortunately, the risks of serious injury are high in these cars with or without seatbelts if an accident occurs: Always important to keep that in mind when driving and to drive as safely as possible.

I am easier to read than I had thought.

Is it just me, or have others noticed that the prices of Model A's have really spiked in the last few hours? Seems the rich guys are pricing everyone else out of the hobby. i'll let myself out.

I'm a big fan of the CCCA as an organization, and a longtime member. But am I right that the CCCA's logo is sort of strangely outdated today? From a design standpoint, it seems to scream out "1983." Or maybe it's just me.

4-door = family car. 2-door hardtop = gentleman's car Convertible = gentleman's car perfect for going out on a leisurely Sunday drive As the cars get older and their typical uses change, so does their relative market value.

Thanks for posting! All great cars. One Duesenberg J never fail to awe; a collection of them together is just, wow.

In this 12-minute video, a self-described "naive, spoon-fed millennial" explains to an audience with no background in classic cars what it is like to learn to drive one. Nothing new for us, but a reminder of how what is standard to us is strange to a lot of people. (Ignore the "172 MPH" thing, it's just a hook to get the kids to click on it.)

I find the Hagerty values pretty accurate for the few post-war cars I follow. I also appreciate that they show quartlerly trends, which I think are usually pretty accurate, too. I didn't think they covered pre-war cars, though.

Related: https://www.autotrader.com/car-video/heres-what-it-cost-me-to-own-an-aston-martin-for-a-year-258376

A Karmann-Ghia may be stretching the definition of "sports car," but how about this for $3K? https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/brightwaters-vw-volkswagen-karmann-ghia/6961405257.html

Delaware is a small state, but there are a lot of different parts. You might think of it as three different places: 1) northern Delaware, and the Wilmington area, which is sort of part of the Philadelphia/NJ greater area; 2) southern Delaware, which is quite rural; and 3) the beach areas, like Rehoboth and Lewes, which draw folks from lots of city areas including Wilmington, DC, and New Jersey. I don't know the general car club scene in Delaware, but I have been to events and tours for particular marques that happen to be in the Wilmington area. If you're in nothern Delaware, the annual Hagley Museum car show is excellent.

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From what I can tell, there are lots of people aiming to get great pictures with no people in the background, and some going to great lengths to do so. I just didn't happen to be one of them.

https://journal.classiccars.com/2019/08/18/monterey-auction-sales-suffer-embarrassment/: The 2019 Monterey Classic Car Auctions wrapped up Saturday evening with total preliminary sales coming in at only $245.5 million, a reduction of 34 percent compared with the 2018 totals. “Whether it’s threat of recession, broad economic volatility or too many cars crammed into too few hours, there’s no denying this year’s Monterey Auction Week results were depressed when you compare the results to recent years,” the Hagerty Insider reported as the auctions ended. “Although a few more major sales will likely finalize over the next day or two (as post-block deals are consummated), the preliminary totals fell short of expectations and lagged behind 2018 results of $370 million by $125.4 million (-34 percent). “This amount is the lowest tally since 2011’s $197 million,” added Hagerty, which monitors all of the major auction venues, in the case of Monterey Car Week, there were six sales taking place over a three-day span. Hagerty added at average sales price, media sales price and sell-through rates were all down in 2019 compared to year-ago numbers, as was “performance against estimate,” which tracks high bids. Total sales: $245.5 million (2018 total sales: $370.9 million) Average sale price: $319,610 (2018 Average sale price: $436,849)