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  1. Auburn-seeker - Good question and really difficult to answer as the Model 34 rarely comes to market. Produced from 1916 to 1924, the Model 34 spans the late brass to mid-nickel era with constant improvement during the run. I believe the later years were the more mechanically refined, better driving and more desirable cars.

    The other similar Speedsters that have sold in the past several years or were for sale are:

    1924 Speedster at RM Hershey Auction (2015) – a very nicely restored Marmon that sold for $203.5k

    1924 Speedster at RM Hershey Auction (2014) – an unrestored car that didn’t sell at pre-auction estimate of $125k - $175k. Later restored by Dragone

    Both of these can be seen at this link:

    https://rmsothebys.com/en/search#/?SortBy=Default&SearchTerm=Marmon&Category=All%20Categories&FromYear=1916&ToYear=1924&IncludeWithdrawnLots=false&Auction=&OfferStatus=All%20availability&AuctionYear=&Model=Model&Make=Make&FeaturedOnly=false&StillForSaleOnly=false&Collection=All%20Lots&WithoutReserveOnly=false&page=1&pageSize=0

    1922 Four Passenger Speedster sold by Hyman at auction several years ago for $155k - $160k

    https://hymanltd.com/vehicles/5542-1922-marmon-model-34-speedster/

    1924 Speedster fully restored (noted above) and currently for sale by Dragone at $265k (Hemmings News)

    http://dragoneclassic.com/currentofferings/1924-marmon-34b/

     

    Trimacar’s assessment is a fair one and certainly in the ballpark.  As you can see pricing is all over the map and thus it was difficult to just stick a number out there. If someone were seriously interested in the car, we would encourage a visit to see and drive it. We are considering taking it to Hershey as well.  

     

    Please note, I have no financial interest in selling the car and would take any offer to the family for their consideration. There is a clear North Carolina title that can be transferred without the normal estate issues.  

  2. This past June, we lost a good friend and avid old car fan – Clay Thomas. A true southern gentleman, Clay made many friends touring with his wife Mary Ellen in their 1922 Marmon 34B and 1928 Auburn 8-115. The family has expressed a desired to see these cars be passed on to an equally enthusiastic old car lover that will continue to enjoy the driving of such special cars. Both are for sale and will be addressed in separate listings. They are located in Charlotte, North Carolina.

     

    1922 Marmon 34B Two Passenger Speedster For Sale

    •       Marmon’s production model of the 1920 Indianapolis 500 Pace Car

    •          Rarely seen and one of 5 known to exist as listed in the Marmon Club roster

    •       - Large 6 cylinder engine, 3 speed transmission, 3.25 rear end, rear wheel brakes only

    •      - Mostly aluminum body, wind wings and 6 Buffalo wire wheels

    •         Older restoration in the late 1970’s by Herb Watts (previous owner)

    •      - Clay Thomas bought from Herb in May, 1988 – 30 year ownership

    •      - AACA Awards include First Junior, Senior, and many Repeat Preservation Awards

    •      - AACA National Award – Thomas McKean Touring Award - in 1999

    •      - Recognized as a CCCA Full Classic

    •      - Completed 6 Glidden Tours and many Marmon Musters along with a number of HCCA regional tours over the period of 30 years

    •      - Featured car in publications including Autoweek, Old Cars Weekly (2x), and Hornet’s Nest AACA monthly news

    •       - Meticulous records – engine rebuild in 2000, new top in 2008, and new tires in 2011

    This is a well sorted, fast automobile that is a strong, dependable tour car. As such, it shows signs of being driven and could stand to be refreshed slightly. It has never been abused but lovingly exercised as these early Marmon’s should be. Lou Iacinno, the Marmon guru who has known this Marmon for many years and toured with Clay, is quoted as saying “there is not a better running Marmon 34 in the country”.

    If you’re looking for an early Marmon, that you can get in, drive and ENJOY, this is it!

    The family is encouraging reasonable offers. For more information, contact David Peeler at 704-564-5468 or by email at dpeeler6@gmail.com  

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  3. Does anyone know how to ID a Buffalo wire wheel size? Attached is a Buffalo "hub cap" for the wheels I have.  I have concluded that the marking "LS"  (PL MS 4.5 LS) refers to left side (it has a left hand thread) but not sure about the 4.5. It is hard to make out, but there is a decimal point between the 4 and 5. I want to say this is a Buffalo #5??  Also looking for a left rear buffalo axle hub of this same size. Thanks for any help! David

     

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  4. Well, I thought I had found a great brass plating shop and after the first batch of parts came back, I'm on the hunt again. I sent a couple instrument housings and a pull light switch panel - simple enough I thought?? Was promised 2 weeks and took 2 months...then to come back looking the way they did just won't cut it. Problem - no prep work and them no buffing - just dipped and dried it appears. Hard to tell about color consistency which is so hard for brass plating.

     

    Does anyone have a shop they can recommend? Would appreciate any leads!

     

    Thanks,

    David

  5. It is a Marmon - a 4 passenger cloverleaf roadster. Note the splash aprons were riveted to the frame as can be seen in the photo and which were integral to the stiffness of the chassis. Without "louvers" in the sides of the hood, it dates from 1916 to 1920.   I had one (1917) and loved it - you could go 60 mph all day long but had to remember the "45 mph" brakes may not stop you as fast as you'd like!

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  6. Thanks for both replies but my speedster is a larger framed car and the gas tank will probably need to be 35" to 36" long and round. That's why I was looking to have one made and not having much luck.

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