Packard Don

I am planning a trip to my workshop just north of Terrebonne, Oregon in an unincorporated area and have available an assortment of Packard parts, mostly postwar and mostly mechanical, including at least one R11 overdrive transmission, several Ultramatics, manifolds, several 327cid engines including one rebuilt, flywheels, cranks, manifolds, steering gearboxes, bell housings and much more. I also have some NOS and rebuilt Ultramatic parts. There are also lots of pieces of postwar trim, mostly from from Patricians of different years. All trim parts are used but in good condition although pot metal pieces would require restoration. They are mostly still packed but I can unpack on my next visit if there is interest for something specific. I am also considering parting out a 1951 Henney-Packard 156" wheelbase 3-door military ambulance. It is mostly complete with good glass but it's rear axle and driveshaft were donated to a '51 Henney-Packard combination. I know I have a 14" rear brake drum with complete backing plate for a postwar Henney-Packard and I may also have a few other Henney-specific mechanical and trim pieces. Some prewar parts also available including at least one 1940 110 non-overdrive transmission, an early 1940 110 engine, C4411, rebuilt but not assembled (I have it all but may be difficult to locate all pieces on this trip), several heads, at least one 1940 110 steering gearbox, coil springs, used front shocks, used radio parts and much more. If any of these are of interest or if you need something else, please let me know before the trip. The date hasn't yet been set so I can possibly work around your schedule. Because I cannot ship heavy parts, you or your shipper would have to meet me there for pickup or I can make arrangements for someone else to meet you there at a later date after the sale. An engine lift and forklift are available with advance notice. The shop is easily accessible but is in a very rural area with only wide gravel streets and a wide gravel driveway. The double-decker transporter that delivered the cars had no trouble getting in! If you need something specific not mentioned here, just ask. Although I have no parts lists, I may either remember or can look while there. All parts sold AS-IS with advance payment by PayPal as I cannot accept on the spot cash payments.

Great car with an unusual body style. It looks much like a '40 110 Club Sedan that I used to own until a few years ago. Is it a Super 8 or a 12? If it runs, once you clean out the fuel system and brakes, and reinstall the interior, it looks like you should be able to get back on the road relatively easily, then restore it as you go. By the way, I used to have a 1959 MGA too (or was it a '58).

Beautiful car! The grill looks very much like that of an Auburn but with a scoop to it.

Specifically, the car behind the people is a 1953 Packard Cavalier 300 or Patrician 400. Older years would not have had the upper bumper rails and newer would have had a single-piece rear window.

It sounds like a dirty filter or a partially plugged carburetor inlet screen. Were the tank and lines cleaned out and fresh gasoline added before attempting to start? Unless the pump is actually leaking fuel, it's unlikely the culprit although it's possible but check the rest of the fuel system first. If you're sure it's the pump, simply order a kit and rebuild it.

Hi, I may be interested in the wiper motor and washer cover (the part with the red plastic and wires) if the price is right. FYI, a couple of the window cranks appear to be prewar, maybe 1937, the fuel filter appears to be aftermarket but I'm not sure as my '39 Six had one like it that was even red. The timing chain appeared to be broken.

I'm traveling at he moment but from memory it has a reground cam with new bearings, new timing chain, boiled out with new freeze plugs, reground valves and seats with new guides and reconditioned lifter bodies. As I also recall, it has original hydraulic lifters that were thoroughly cleaned and tested. I have a special tool for setting the cold non-running gap for Packard hydraulic lifters and I believe it was done on this engine but I am not sure (the actual adjustment is done by either grinding the end of the valve stem or the seat to obtain the proper gap with the tool installed in place of the hydraulic lifter). I don't recall if it was rebored with new pistons or if it was simply checked and honed. Either way, though, it is to proper factory specifications. I would suggest disassembly and reassembly to get rid of any abrasive dust it may have acquired in the long storage. Having said all that, I don't often go to my shop and it is VERY rural so I have no way to ship. There is no telephone nor even any power there yet. If interested, you would have to arrange your own shipping but I can strap it to a pallet to make it easier. I know these are not cheap to rebuild these days so what do you think it's worth to you?

I have a rebuilt engine in my workshop that I believe is a 327 5-main from 1953 but unfortunately it is in a different state from where I live. It was rebuilt many, many years ago so I don't recall the details. I know there is no head or manifolds installed on it but I'm fairly sure I have them somewhere, or at least I have the head. If no hurry, I can check it out the next time I'm there in Central Oregon (Terrebonne). I have a photo or two somewhere too.

Doesn't appear that the poster's original question was ever answered. Maybe a decade late but the answer is yes, power windows and seat where available on non-convertibles. My '52, '53 and '54 Patricians had hydraulic windows as did my '48 and '52 Henney-Packards. Alternately, I've seen convertibles with the same hydraulic system WITHOUT power windows. Don

When converting from positive to negative ground, don't forget to re-gap the spark plugs. Positive ground cars have a closer gap of around .028 while negative ground needs around .035.

I just read through this entire thread and loved it! I have a few photos somewhere that I'll try to post once I locate them. One is of the front wheel drive Packard that used to be at Harrah's in Reno where the sign indicated it was made by Count Alexis de Sakhnoffsky. The other was owned by a friend and was, as I recall, a 1932 902 canvas topped stationery coupe that was specially built to smuggle prohibition era liquer. At a glance it looked perfectly normal but it's golf bag door was huge. The only coach built car I ever owned, other than many Henney-Packards that were only glossed over in this thread, was a 1964 Ghia-Imperial limousine.

Old post but here's a quick answer. I can't speak for '35 to '37 but the '38 to '40 handles will physically interchange although each has a totally different appearance.

Thank you for the correction! I've obviously never owned a pre-war with power windows. Sometimes I can't remember what I did yesterday but a detail like this I don't forget and appreciate knowing it!

PAckards with fleur-de-lis had side by side mounting holes and, as mentioned above, was used on the early '40 110. The vertically mounted emblem was used later although I've seen coupes with no emblem at all. Earlier models also have squished bumper ends while later cars had the ends as the same width as the rest of the bumper. I doubt the two things changed at the same time. Also, the vehicles with the optional luggage rack used the same type of license plate holder found on the 1939 models so that it mounted high up on the lid to not be blocked by the rack or trunk. These likey did not have an emblem as it would have been in much the same location as the license plate. Models without the rack had the handle/plate holder at the bottom of the deck lid. Having said that, I've seen many convertibles and coupes without emblems so possibly it was found only on the sedans and station wagons. On the latter, I've seen only the verticle emblem and not the fleur-de-lis.

The one in the museum was an Anthony car and, as I recall, had a custom body so my guess at the time was that it was an Anthony change. Seeing a second one such as yours, though, now I'm not so sure but it does seem odd that Packard would abandon their trademark for one year and model. Of course, the wheel covers I had with the circle were for '51 to '54 models where they did always have the hex. Are there any other "Anthony Specials" out there?

Are any photos still available? The one in the original post is broken and I would love to see what it looks like.

Trimacar, that is funny!

Thank you again for the great idea! I've already been prying and pounding on it so much without being able to actually see what I'm hitting that some of the mechanism and possibly even the door would have to be replaced now. I would obviously need a new striker but finding one should be easier than locating a '65 Fleetwood rear door.

I know this is an old post but if I came across it now, so might others so here's an additional note. You would also need new door panel switches as those for a hydraulic lift system supply power to the pump and solenoid for UP travel and only to the solenoid for DOWN. In other words, it's not a standard single pole, double throw switch that electric windows would need. Instead, DOWN is single pole but UP supplies power to both terminals. I'm not sure they could be modified for up/down power to a motor. Question: didn't some prewar cars use vacuum window lifts? Did Packard use them?

On ' 54, the seat was electric 4-way using a ball-screw mechanism even though the windows were still hydraulic. The door jambs had the place for the hole but if the option wasn't ordered with the car, there were no holes or even knockouts. it would take a special die to cut the hole and simultaneously bead the edge. My two '54s are stored out of state but going from memory, the hole is about 1" X 2".

I've had four '65s myself (three Fleetwoods and a Calais coupe) but this is the first time I've have this problem. Your idea hadn't occurred to me and sounds like a winner so next time I'm there at the shop I'll give it a try! I don't have a sawsall there but I do have a jigsaw that might do it. Thank you!

I used to have fun taking my mid-60s Imperials to the station. They had the filler hidden behind an emblem at the center of the bumper. Of course, my '54 and '56 Cadillacs were fun too with it in the taillight. Probably the funniest was the expression of the young attendant filling one of my mid-'50 Packards with the whistle in the filler tube. He kept stopping and checking the nozzle to see what was wrong!

Through the years I've seen a number of Early C. Anthony Packards with his added touches of specially-made additions or changes. One was a Flying Lady in a private ornament collection in Northern Washington State from a circa 1939 or 1940 that looked beautiful at a glance but she had no arms. Another was a local (San José, California) 1956 Patrician that I was examining some years ago. I kept walking around it thinking that something wasn't quite right. I realized that that it had small chrome tail fins perched on top of the fenders! Yet another I saw recently in a private museum in nearby Mountain View, California was an early '30s Packard with red circles instead of hexes in the wheel covers and that may have also been an Anthony touch. (Now that I think of it, I used to have in my parts stock some '50s wheel covers with round circles - I wonder if they were Anthony too . . .) I'm sure there are countless others and I would love to hear from people to learn what they are!

The Packard ornament is actually a pelican but was called a cormorant by the California dealership owner Earle C. Anthony and the name stuck. In the Packard heraldry as seen on the crest, though, it is a pelican. The little "bumps" below her are her babies and she is plucking from her breast to feed them so is called the Pious Pelican which is also the name of Northern California Packards newsletter that I edited for a number of years back in the '70s and '80s.

After years of outdoor storage, my 1965 Cadillac Fleetwood 60 Special is now indoors in my shop for work. However, the passenger back door is stuck locked and I cannot see the mechanism to know how to release it. The linkages are free so whatever is wrong is at the latch in the jamb. The door panel is off (difficult to remove with the door closed!) but I fear I may have to cut the sheet metal on the outside just to get it open! I've soaked the mechanism in WD40 and other penetrates but nothing seems to help at all. Trying to do it by feel is the hard part so does anyone have any images or views of the mechanism or ideas that might help? The only thing I haven't tried is heat as I don't want to cause a fire. Sadly when I moved a few years ago and put the cars into the new shop, I threw away a nice set of doors from a parts car and now am regretting it! I had no way to transport them at the time but now it seems I may have to locate a replacement door. The shop and I are several hundred miles apart but I am trying to get advice and ideas for my next work session. Thank you in advance for any help.