32Pontiac6

Good news and bad news... the bad news is that water pumps for splithead 6 engines are not the easiest to find. The good news is that the internals (shaft and impeller) are the same for '29-'32. Is your problem a lack of a pump but one that needs to be rebuilt? You might be better off rebuilding. I have a website with information on splithead Pontiacs. Specifically there is one page that shows part numbers for major components on splithead cars. Here is a link to that page: https://pontiacsplithead.files.wordpress.com/2021/11/splitheadreference-1.pdf Here is a link to the main page. Most of the data is for '30 and '32 but I have some '29 material that I hope to upload soon. https://pontiacsplithead.com Hope this helps.

Thanks to all who responded to my question. I have learned a lot and made some great contacts. Thanks! Rob

@95Cardinal Joe, Thanks for the tip. I found his contact information in the roster and will contact him this week. Rob

@edinmass Thanks for identifying the car. That would make 2 that I know of and I think you said the one you saw was a touring car. They did make a roadster ('13) and what was called a raceabout ('14). I can't imagine a 2 seater with that long hood. I would sure like to know if any of those have survived.

@edinmass I wonder if it was a 6-60 which is very rare. Did it look like this car? They had 130" wheelbase and is 'big car' sized.

Nice car. That one is on the 116" chassis and has 48 HP, right? That would be a powerful car. Do you get to drive it much?

Yes, we did have lots of fun back in the day. Still do, though. Maybe you can come down for the Endurance Run or Antique Cars in History Park. Did you know I live on the same street as you used to live. Very near where Dan lived. Been here for 32 years and walk by your old house almost daily.

Yes, I did. It does looks like an interesting car. However, it is a '19 and if I go crazy and get another car I would like one that qualifies as a horseless car for HCC. Thanks for the tip, though.

Thanks for the lead. Beautiful car. I see his name and contact information in the HCC directory. I am a member. Thanks for the photo!

Thanks. I have been in contact with the owner of that car. Have some photos and yes, it seems like a very nice car. Thanks for the tip.

It is sorted much better now. Did you see the link to the video in my response to your last post? It shows cockpit view of the car. The other link are stills of the car.

I know of one Model 6-60 and they are massive. I know of two '15 speedsters. One sold a couple of years ago and I wonder where it ever ended up. https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/gc19/the-guyton-collection/lots/r0004-1915-oakland-model-37-speedster/750615 There is a '16 in the Simeone Museum https://simeonemuseum.org/collection/1916-oakland-model-38-speedster/

check out my response to oldcarfudd to see photos and video of Jim's car. I don't know if I am a great guy but about 50 years ago I was your fearless riding mechanic in #20 at the Calistoga dirt track races.... We were a little younger back then.

Yes, it was Jim's car. We live in the same city and both belong to the same Model T Club and Horseless Carriage Chapter. I helped him work on adjusting the steering a couple of weeks ago. Great car. I give him grief because he found the car in a garage probably two miles from me. Check out the phots and driving video: https://adobe.ly/3KroiO6 https://adobe.ly/35S7T6x

That is one beautiful car. I think you might be a member of Oakland Pontiac Worldwide ( I am ). There was a nice '12 Model 30 for sale out here that I looked at. I found the geometry of the seat and pedals were just not right for me. Even though it was a bigger car, a Model T of the same vintage was more comfortable as a driver than the Model 30. However, that Model 40 that you have seems to be much h better from a driver's standpoint.

I have been a member of the Pontiac - Oakland Club for almost 45 years. My focus has been in the ‘splithead’ era of 1926-1932. I serve as the club Technical Advisor for 1930 and 1932 cars. Lately have become fascinated with early Oaklands. Mostly cars of the ‘brass’ era but extending to the 1916-17 Series 50 V-8’s. Oakland made some very interesting cars from small roadsters on 96 inch wheelbase to Packard and Pierce sized 6-60’s on 130 inch chassis. They even made a factory speedster that was a very good looking car. While I don’t need another car, I am keeping my eyes open with the thought of adding a car of this era to my ‘fleet’ for participation in Horseless Carriage Club (HCC) events. I love driving my cars and if I owned an early Oakland it would be driven to most HCC events. Therefore, I am looking for owners of Oaklands of this era to find people who have some seat time in their cars. There is an active HCC chapter in my area and if I participate in tours I would likely be driving 70-100 miles round trip to the tour plus tour driving. So doing 100-200 miles in a day would be typical. So some questions I would ask those who drive these cars: How reliable have you found them to be? I know some had Northway motors which were used on other cars. How about other chassis components? Any areas that are particularly problematic? Is there a particular Series or year that you would recommend looking for or staying away from? I have the Standard Catalog of Pontiac by John Gunnell and Standard Catalog of American Cars by Kimes and Clark. Are there any other publications you would recommend for this era Oakland? If anybody has pdf copies of owners manuals or instruction manuals that they would be willing to share, I would enjoy reading those. I look forward to chatting with people who have experience with these cars. I have had the opportunity to ride in a ‘barn fresh’ ’13 Series 40 touring which was a real treat. Cruising at 35 mph it seems like you could drive all day at that speed. The engine was just loping along. I would also like to create an inventory of Oaklands of this era. I keep a registry of splithead era cars and would like to start one for brass era Oaklands if one does not already exist. Thanks for your help. I look forward to learning more about the old Oaklands from people with some hands on experience. Rob

Sent you email with what I want and some questions. - Thanks, Rob

How about kits? I need one for a '30 - '32 Pontiac 6 Carb # Body # 10-781 10-192 10-955 10-228 10-992 10-268 I presume you don't have springs for these but what do the kits contain? Do they have parts for the economizer circuit? Do you have replacements or advice on the cork floats on these carburetors? I also need a kit for a '28 Packard 526.

Tom - Firstly, I am sorry about the slow response. Our daughter had her first baby this week and things have been, shall we say, hectic. Thanks for the data on your car. The Serial number and body number clearly show a 1930 Custom Sedan. The Paint Code of 2021 tells us the body is Cheshire Blue with Black fenders and a Tacoma Cream stripe. --------- Edit ------- What I find interesting is the engine number. If I am reading it correctly it starts with 527 which would make it a '29. The 1930's have engine numbers starting at 673. What is really interesting is the date below the number. That is not normally there and it looks like it has machine screws that hold it on. Like it was put on after. If I were to speculate they used a '29 motor and put a date on it to show it is in a '30 series car. I am passing these photos on to a friend who is a real expert on '30's and see what he says. BRAIN DEAD COMMEN ABOVE - What I interpreted as block number is a part number for the cylinder head. The engine number is not in any of the photos. Sorry. ---------Edit------- Feel free to contact me with any other questions and don't forget to check out my website with information on splithead era cars: https://pontiacsplithead.com Rob

Carb King has forgotten more about old carbs than I know, but I am wondering about the Detroit Lubricator application. I have seen the Detroit lubricator carbs on the 8 cyl Packards. The one that I believe is the correct carb for a 526/533 is pictured below. Did Detroit Lubricator make this one? It says Packard on the float bowl cover. Just checking. Also, when I am done driving, I shut the valve on the bottom of the vacuum tank so that any leakage would only be what is in the carb at that time. The vacuum tank provides a reservoir of fuel that could leak out with an imperfect needle on the float mechanism. Not a problem with fuel pump cars.

Update on the steering problem. It has not been test driven as of yet but the steering gear was adjusted and removed over half of the play in the wheel. We could have taken more out but wanted to test drive it first and not over tighten it. After it gets a good drive there can be another report. Thanks to everybody who helped.

We will measure the play in the steering today and see where the problem is. Hopefully improve it some. Thanks for your response.

Thanks! They did a great job of explaining how it works. What version of Dykes did that come out of? Rob

Does anybody have any experience with the Jacox screw and nut type steering gear on early Oaklands? I am helping a friend with his car and we do not have a lot of information. We were give some information from a 1915 Motor Age snippet which talks about adjustment but does not label the parts in the diagram that are to be adjusted. We also have a parts list, with photos, of the gear. We will be checking the tie rods and drag link to make sure the problem is not there but would like to know what others have done with this unique type steering gear if it ends up being the problem. Thanks, Rob

It is Series 6-30B model 30309, Custom Sedan, 1930. I also own one of these cars. To confirm you can look at the plate on the firewall which would give the model number and sequential number of the body. There is a serial number on the frame behind the front wheel on the drivers side. It is a small aluminum plate about 1/2" x 3". The engine would have a serial number stamped above the dipstick on the block. If you got these numbers we can pin down 100%. The question is a bit open ended. What in particular do you want to know about the car or 1930 Pontiacs in general? You will find quite a bit of information on 1930 Pontiacs on my website: https://pontiacsplithead.com Look in the reference tab and you will find operator manual, dealer brochures, parts book, etc. Good luck. They are great driving cars.