1925Stanley

Good Morning, Chrysler Brake Experts! My 1925 Stanley has early Lockheed Hydraulic Brakes and I desperately need three wheel cylinder pistons as shown on the right of the attached photos. The diameter is 1.500" and it is 1" tall/high. Call me at (972) 661-9672 if you can help. Thank you very much. Don Hoke

Good Morning, Chrysler Brake Experts! My 1925 Stanley has early Lockheed Hydraulic Brakes and I desperately need three wheel cylinder pistons as shown on the right of the attached photos. The diameter is 1.500" and it is 1" tall/high. Call me at (972) 661-9672 if you can help. Thank you very much. Don Hoke

Good Morning, Chrysler Brake Experts! My 1925 Stanley has early Lockheed Hydraulic Brakes and I desperately need three wheel cylinder pistons as shown on the right of the attached photos. The diameter is 1.500" and it is 1" tall/high. Call me at (972) 661-9672 if you can help. Thank you very much. Don Hoke

Thanks, Gentlemen! Very good advice! I found an aluminum Tommy's Trailer with an 8' high door. Now, if I could find someone who needs the prototype Stanley Steam Car for 1925, built in 1924 and driven by Fred Marriott. Yes, we have it and it is for sale! Very best wishes! Don Hoke The Virtual Stream Car Museum.

Good Morning! The BettyAnne, our 1925 Stanley SV, is nearing completion and we need a front hub cap medallion. Here are some photos. Thanks very much! Don and Carolyn Hoke (972) 661-9672

Good Afternoon! We have for sale the 1924 Prototype for the 1925 Steam Vehicle Corporation of America's SV 252. There is a photograph of Fred Marriott driving the car outside Boston in the fall of 1924. Let me know if you are interested. This is an original, running steam car, museum quality. Best wishes! Don Hoke

Hello Studebaker Experts! I have been told that the 1925 Stanley (Steam Vehicle Corporation of America) used a 1924/1925 Studebaker frame/chassis. I'd like to learn if this is true. I've attached a few photos of my 1925 Stanley Chassis. Does this look like a 1924/1925 Studebaker Chassis? Thanks so very much for your help. Do visit The Virtual Steam Car Museum! Best wishes! Don Hoke (972) 955-7614

Wanted: A 20' or 22' long closed Featherlite Car Hauling Trailer, Model 4926. Must be 7' tall inside. The 6'6" trailers are not high enough. Our 1925 Stanley is taller than 6'6". I live in Dallas, TX, but travel a great deal. Thanks for your help! Don Hoke (972) 955-7614. Do visit the Virtual Steam Car Museum!

My 1925 Stanley has the same Lockheed Hydraulic Brakes as the early Chryslers. I need new brake springs and have found a maker in Dallas who can make them. Two Questions: 1. Is there another source for these springs? 2. If Not, is anyone interested injoining in to have some made? Here are the specifications taken directly from an original 1925 Stanley spring in excellent condition: .105" Wire Diameter .790" OD 2.000" Free Length Optional Wind (left or right, makes no difference) Closed and ground flat on each end. Piano Wire that can stand complete compression. They will cost about $20.00 each, so $160 for a set of eight. Let me know at your earliest convenience if you have another "off-the-shelf" source or if you are interested in a set. Thanks! Don Hoke Vintage Steam Products Herhsey: RWL 4 - 5

Good Morning! I am assembling the instrument cluster on The BettyAnne, our 1925 Stanley and need switch repair advice. This is the push/pull switch that lights the instrument cluster light. The fiber board piece that holds the two sides of the contacts is broken and not repairable. Where does one find a piece of this material? Are there any switch repair shop that can handle this repair? Thank you! Don Hoke

Vintage Steam Products is pleased to announce that it has nozzle pickers back in stock. I shamelessly plagiarized the design from the nozzle picker Tom Marshall included in the goodie bag for the 2007 steam tour in Delaware - a GREAT tour! In return, Carolyn and I will donate $5.00 to Auburn Heights for every nozzle picker we sell. Each picker comes with four different sized picker wires. Yes, we sell picker wires in sets of four if you broke or lost yours. If you have not registered to receive the Virtual Steam Car Museum monthly newsletter, now is the perfect time! Happy Steaming! Don & Carolyn Hoke

For Sale: Model 735 Spare Tire Brackets. Three Sets. The first set contains an original tire support piece and the mounting bracket, as well as an aluminum support piece and brass mounting bracket. These are the original parts from which the others were cast. Very nicely done! $150.00. The other two sets are both cast iron and consist only of the supporting pieces. $100 per set. Will trade for Cruban Pilot Parts and/or steam car literature. Visit Carolyn's new Vintage Steam Products web site. She did a magnificent job! Visit the Virtual Steam Car Museum! Happy Steaming! Don and Carolyln

Carolyn has just uploaded the newly designed Vintage Steam Products web site. She did a magnificent job and it is a great improvement over the site we acquired from Art Hart. Let us know how we can help you get your car on the road or keep your car on the road. Carolyn is now using MailChimp to put out regular emails, just as I am doing with the Virtual Steam Car Museum. If you are not on her or my list, please email us and we'll add you. I've just listed some Stanley parts on eBay. Anyone need spare tire brackets for a Model 735? www.vintagesteamproducts.com Very best wishes! Don & Carolyn Hoke Vintage Steam Products

Major Announcement! A new donor has just contributed $10,000 towards publication of the Stewart Biography. The donor approached me Saturday morning in the parking lot after the Finger Lakes Steam Tour. This leadership gift, along with several more modest gifts, leaves the Virtual Steam Car Museum only $12,300 short of matching our $20,000 Challenge Grant. This donor will be recognized with a full page in the acknowledgement section of the Stewart Biography. We have three days before the challenge grant expires, so time is of the essence. Thank you very much for your time and consideration. Please call Don Hoke if you have questions. (972) 955-7614. Very best wishes! Don Hoke

Major Announcement! A new donor has just contributed $10,000 towards publication of the Stewart Biography. The donor approached me Saturday morning in the parking lot after the Finger Lakes Steam Tour. This leadership gift, along with several more modest gifts, leaves the Virtual Steam Car Museum only $12,300 short of matching our $20,000 Challenge Grant. This donor will be recognized with a full page in the acknowledgement section of the Stewart Biography. We have three days before the challenge grant expires, so time is of the essence. Thank you very much for your time and consideration. Please call Don Hoke if you have questions. (972) 955-7614. Very best wishes! Don Hoke

Wanted: Closed Car Hauling Trailer. Our car weighs about 3,750 pounds, so we will have about 5,000 pounds in the trailer. Dual 5,000# axles with electric brakes, 8' wide, 20' - 24' long, hauled by SUV (not a goose neck), rear door ramp, roof vents, jacks at both rear corners. We live in Dallas, TX.

Good Morning! I've been cataloging and uploading the John A. Conde steam collection and have a question about file stamps. I see a file stamp on some pieces of literature referencing the Pope Manufacturing Company collection that apparently went to the Stevens Institute of Technology in September 1922. Does anyone know about this collection? The other references an AMA Patent Library in Detroit that was apparently broken up some years ago. I have a vague recollection of being at the Chickasha show about 10 years ago and going through Hollinger boxes filled with automobile literature, all of which had this stamp. Does anyone know the history of this collection or where I can find some information? At my daughter's suggestion, I've starting using MailChimp to send the newsletter. This is infinitely easier and quicker than sending it manually. If you'd like to subscribe, visit the VSCM web site. There is a sign up form on the home page. Enjoy! Don Hoke The Virtual Steam Car Museum, Inc.

Good Morning! Can anyone help identify these early steam car (steam boat?) pumps? The frame seems a bit crude for a manufacturing effort. Thanks very much! Don Hoke The Virtual Steam Car Museum, Inc.

Good Evening! Is this pump of interest? It is identified as a Grout pump. Very best wishes! Don Hoke Vintage Steam Products, LLC The Virtual Steam Car Museum, Inc.

When I get one of these, I reply "Meet me at the bank with cash." They never do! Visit the Virtual Steam Car Museum! Don

For Sale: 1925 Stanley Steam Car - Phaeton (Touring Car) Model Serial Number 25007, Model SV-252A. Original Condition. HPOF Eligible. $99,999.00. This is probably the only running un-restored, Stanley SV in existence. This car ran very well in September 2012 and subsequently. This is the second earliest 1925 Stanley documented to have survived. It is the 7th car produced by the Steam Vehicle Corporation of America of Newton, MA, one of only 53 produced in 1925. This museum piece should be preserved in a major collection. This car steams very nicely and drives very well. Original SV engine in octagonal aluminum engine case. Has not been converted to a 740 engine as many of the SV cars were. Original leather upholstery, note some deterioration. Lockheed Hydraulic Brakes – rebuilt in 2010, filled with DOT 5 brake fluid. Body shows very minor nicks and scratches, typical of an un-restored car. Missing rear window, correct replacement frame in hand but not installed. Model 750 water tank installed by Carl Amsley, however the original water tanks survives and comes with the car. It requires repair but should be installed. A larger and later master cylinder is installed for the hydraulic brakes. Sadly the original master cylinder has been lost. An original exists should the new buyer want patterns. The air pump is missing but was likely never installed by the factory. This appears to be the case with several other documented 1925 SVs. Connection required from generator to Waltham speedometer. Speedometer is out of the car but present, but it is correct for the car. A speedometer cable comes with the car but not clear if it is original. Electric fuel tank gauge is probably original. There is no Foxboro gauge or sending unit. The electric fuel tank gauge fills the hole where the original Foxboro gauge would have gone. It is likely that the Foxboro gauge and sending unit were never installed. The boiler has been re-tubed but it believed to be the original boiler. The burner is a conventional drilled, two-venturi Stanley burner and may very likely be the original or a very early replacement. The originally designed boiler and burner were 20” and much too small. The car’s piping is a bit unusual with a sight gauge located inside the engine compartment. This car was owned at one time by Carl Amsley, who made the following modifications: Cut slot in front floor board and installed a hand water pump. Brent Campbell saw this car at Carl’s before Carl cut the hole in the floor board and mounted the condensing car hand pump, probably a Model 740 hand pump. Replaced steam pressure gauge in dash. It is correct, but the dial reads Stanley Motor Carriage Co. and not Steam Vehicle Corporation. Model A Ford rear tail light on left rear fender. Installed Model 750 water tank. Replaced the original black condenser shell with nickel. A correct condenser and shell will be provided if the buyer desires. Provenance: Unsubstantiated Story: The car was originally purchased by a Cleveland woman. It was not running when it arrived and the local Stanley dealer got it running for her. The Steam Vehicle Corporation of America was nearly bankrupt and shipped incomplete cars to its dealers with the promise that future deliveries would include an adjustment for parts added by the local dealer. The owner parked the car in her garage and rarely (never?) drove it. She divorced her husband (other way around?) and they fought over the car. It is unclear what happened next, but the car ended up on a used car lot in Bryn Mawr, PA in 1930. The car was purchased by Francis W. Bunting in 1930. He found it in a used car lot in 1930, either in Bryn Mawr or across the line in _______. Bryn Mawr, PA is northwest of Philadelphia on Route 30, the Lincoln Highway. Charles Gibson works for the Wicks Organ Company, servicing organs in the Philadelphia area. In 1986, Charles Gibson was working in Center City Philadelphia. He and his father had been interested in old cars since the 1970s. Bunting approached Gibson looking for insurance for the Stanley and they met in a restaurant to discuss the car and insurance. Bunting lived in Haddon Heights, NJ in 1986. Bunting drove the car and maintained it. Bunting was transferred to Erie, PA by his employer. Bunting and his wife parted ways after they moved to Erie, but did not divorce. Bunting moved back to Haddon Heights, but his wife stayed in Erie. Bunting had a Philadelphia girl friend, but stayed friendly with his wife. The car was stored at Bunting’s Aunt’s house. When she died, she left the house to the Methodist Church to endow the maintenance of the church organ. Bunting bought his Aunt’s house from the church. [size4]Bunting was still supporting his wife in Erie as well as his Philadelphia girl friend, Ruth Hardin. In the spring of 1989, Bunting visited his wife and died in Erie. A month later his wife died. Bunting’s girlfriend, Ruth Hardin was the executrix of his estate. Ruth came to Charles Gibson and asked if she could store the car with him and did so for 9 months. Gibson wanted to buy the car but $15,000 was beyond his financial capabilities, what with a new house and a wife, etc. Gibson connected Ruth Hardin with the Stanley people. Someone looked at the car and realized that the “connection between the boiler and engine” was missing. Bunting was apparently working on the car and had put the parts under the stairs in the house. When Ruth sold the house, she unknowingly tossed out the parts, not realizing what they were. Gibson met Carl Amsley at Hershey in October 1990. Amsley was very interested in the car. Gibson got Amsley and Ruth on the phone and had Ruth “look under the front seat cushion” for the serial number to ensure it was a 1925 car. Then Amsley bought the car for $20,000 on November 15, 1990. Gibson and his wife visited Amsley in the spring of 1991 and had lunch with Amsley and enjoyed a visit and a Stanley steam car ride. Don and Fred were hanging around Carl Amsley and bought this car prior to 1995. Don put the new – current – tires on it and installed the boiler water level sight glass inside the hood. The kidney gauge was on the car when Amsley got it, as was the fuel tank gauge. The only thing Amsley did was add the hand pump – Brent Campbell says the same. One of the gauges was changed out – there is new hardware holding it in place. The paint was on the car when Amsley got it. Neither Carl or Don did not painted the car, so it should qualify for AACA’s HPOF classification. Don re-tubed the boiler in Amsley’s shop in PA. Amsley took Fred and Don to a plumbing supply house where they bought the copper tubing. The original tubing was steel, and the 23” boiler and 2 venturi burner are apparently original. Don drilled out the old boiler tubes – were they welded to the boiler’s bottom sheet? The steel tubes were rusty and were giving out. Amsley put the 750 water tank on the car but kept the old tank as it had rusted out. Don and Fred could not find the original brake master cylinder that he changed out. They think that someone who cleaned out the garage may have thought it was junk and tossed it. It may still be in the garage, but they doubt it. They will continue to watch out for it. Amsley changed the condenser to make it look better. Don Clark traded the car to Donald & Carolyn Hoke for a 1923 Stanley sedan in February 2009.

For Sale: Stanley Steam Car Engine, Serial No. 740-4148, 20 hp. Moves easily on compressed air, original asbestos cylinder covering. Sold As Is Where Is, FOB Dallas, TX. Can deliver to Hershey or major city between Dallas and Hershey. Asking $5,500, or trade for? New, Popular Price on a 1925 Stanley SV, Serial Number 25007! HPOF Eligible! Belongs in a Museum or a Major Collection. Runs very well - ! Now only $99,999! 1925 Stanley Steam Car - Phaeton (Touring Car) Model Serial Number 25007, Model SV-252A This is probably the only running un-restored, Stanley SV in existence. This car ran very well in September 2012. This is the second earliest 1925 Stanley documented to have survived. It is the 7th car produced by the Steam Vehicle Corporation of America of Newton, MA, one of only 53 produced in 1925. This car steams very nicely and drives very well. Original SV engine in octagonal aluminum engine case. Has not been converted to a 740 engine as many of the SV cars were. Original leather upholstery, note some deterioration. Lockheed Hydraulic Brakes – rebuilt in 2010, filled with DOT 5 brake fluid. Body shows very minor nicks and scratches, typical of an un-restored car. Missing rear window, correct replacement frame in hand but not installed. Model 750 water tank installed by Carl Amsley, however the original water tanks survives and comes with the car. It requires repair but should be installed. A larger and later master cylinder is installed for the hydraulic brakes. Sadly the original master cylinder has been lost. An original exists should the new buyer want patterns. The air pump is missing but was likely never installed by the factory. This appears to be the case with several other documented 1925 SVs. Connection required from generator to Waltham speedometer. Speedometer is out of the car but present, but it is correct for the car. A speedometer cable comes with the car but not clear if it is original. Electric fuel tank gauge is probably original. There is no Foxboro gauge or sending unit. The electric fuel tank gauge fills the hole where the original Foxboro gauge would have gone. It is likely that the Foxboro gauge and sending unit were never installed. The boiler has been re-tubed but it believed to be the original boiler. The burner is a conventional drilled, two- venturi Stanley burner and may very likely be the original or a very early replacement. The originally designed boiler and burner were 20” and much too small. The car’s piping is a bit unusual with a sight gauge located inside the engine compartment. This car was owned at one time by Carl Amsley, who made the following modifications: Cut slot in front floor board and installed a hand water pump. Brent Campbell saw this car at Carl’s before Carl cut the hole in the floor board and mounted the condensing car hand pump, probably a Model 740 hand pump. Replaced steam pressure gauge in dash. It is correct, but the dial reads Stanley Motor Carriage Co. and not Steam Vehicle Corporation. Model A Ford rear tail light on left rear fender. Installed Model 750 water tank. Replaced the original black condenser shell with nickel. A correct condenser and shell will be provided if the buyer desires. Provenance: Unsubstantiated Story: The car was originally purchased by a Cleveland woman. It was not running when it arrived and the local Stanley dealer got it running for her. The Steam Vehicle Corporation of America was nearly bankrupt and shipped incomplete cars to its dealers with the promise that future deliveries would include an adjustment for parts added by the local dealer. The owner parked the car in her garage and rarely (never?) drove it. She divorced her husband (other way around?) and they fought over the car. It is unclear what happened next, but the car ended up on a used car lot in Bryn Mawr, PA in 1930. The car was purchased by Francis W. Bunting in 1930. He found it in a used car lot in 1930, either in Bryn Mawr or across the line in _______. Bryn Mawr, PA is northwest of Philadelphia on Route 30, the Lincoln Highway. Charles Gibson works for the Wicks Organ Company, servicing organs in the Philadelphia area. In 1986, Charles Gibson was working in Center City Philadelphia. He and his father had been interested in old cars since the 1970s. Bunting approached Gibson looking for insurance for the Stanley and they met in a restaurant to discuss the car and insurance. Bunting lived in Haddon Heights, NJ in 1986. Bunting drove the car and maintained it. Bunting was transferred to Erie, PA by his employer. Bunting and his wife parted ways after they moved to Erie, but did not divorce. Bunting moved back to Haddon Heights, but his wife stayed in Erie. Bunting had a Philadelphia girl friend, but stayed friendly with his wife. The car was stored at Bunting’s Aunt’s house. When she died, she left the house to the Methodist Church to endow the maintenance of the church organ. Bunting bought his Aunt’s house from the church. Bunting was still supporting his wife in Erie as well as his Philadelphia girl friend, Ruth Hardin. In the spring of 1989, Bunting visited his wife and died in Erie. A month later his wife died. Bunting’s girlfriend, Ruth Hardin was the executrix of his estate. Ruth came to Charles Gibson and asked if she could store the car with him and did so for 9 months. Gibson wanted to buy the car but $15,000 was beyond his financial capabilities, what with a new house and a wife, etc. Gibson connected Ruth Hardin with the Stanley people. Someone looked at the car and realized that the “connection between the boiler and engine” was missing. Bunting was apparently working on the car and had put the parts under the stairs in the house. When Ruth sold the house, she unknowingly tossed out the parts, not realizing what they were. Gibson met Carl Amsley at Hershey in October 1990. Amsley was very interested in the car. Gibson got Amsley and Ruth on the phone and had Ruth “look under the front seat cushion” for the serial number to ensure it was a 1925 car. Then Amsley bought the car for $20,000 on November 15, 1990. Gibson and his wife visited Amsley in the spring of 1991 and had lunch with Amsley and enjoyed a visit and a Stanley steam car ride. Don and Fred were hanging around Carl Amsley and bought this car prior to 1995. Don put the new – current – tires on it and installed the boiler water level sight glass inside the hood. The kidney gauge was on the car when Amsley got it, as was the fuel tank gauge. The only thing Amsley did was add the hand pump – Brent Campbell says the same. One of the gauges was changed out – there is new hardware holding it in place. The paint was on the car when Amsley got it. Neither Carl or Don did not painted the car, so it should qualify for AACA’s HPOF classification. Don re-tubed the boiler in Amsley’s shop in PA. Amsley took Fred and Don to a plumbing supply house where they bought the copper tubing. The original tubing was steel, and the 23” boiler and 2 venturi burner are apparently original. Don drilled out the old boiler tubes – were they welded to the boiler’s bottom sheet? The steel tubes were rusty and were giving out. Amsley put the 750 water tank on the car but kept the old tank as it had rusted out. Don and Fred could not find the original brake master cylinder that he changed out. They think that someone who cleaned out the garage may have thought it was junk and tossed it. It may still be in the garage, but they doubt it. They will continue to watch out for it. Amsley changed the condenser to make it look better. Don Clark traded the car to Donald & Carolyn Hoke for a 1923 Stanley sedan in February 2009. Don Hoke

Auto-Lite Generator Question: I have an Auto-Lite Generator marked GBR 4608-5. It was made in Toledo, Ohio, probably in the mid 1930s. What automobile had this generator as its original equipment? I've searched a number of sites and have found very similar numbers, but not exactly GBR 4608-5, and they identify a Cord, DeSoto, and perhaps a Diamond T. I suspect this generator was adapted to run on a late model Stanley Steam Car, as it came with a pile of Stanley parts and has a hose clamped to it that would seem to fit a Stanley rear end. Thanks for your help! Don Hoke Honest Don's Used Steam Car Emporium.

For Sale: Studebaker "Model A" Tail Light. Also used on early 1920s Stanley Steam Cars. It is marked STUDEBAKER MODEL "A" on the top. $125.00 OBO. Thanks for looking! Best wishes! Don Hoke Vintage Steam Products.

For Sale: Studebaker "Model A" Tail Light. Used on some 1920s Stanley Steam Cars. $125.00 OBO. Thanks for looking! Don Hoke Vintage Steam Products, Inc.