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  1. Trunk Rack is pretty straight and has only minor surface rust. Has outer trim piece around the perimeter and small ornament in the middle along the top edge. Rack is very heavy! The part has some original paint on it and has never been crunched, but will need some minor straightening. Came to me mounted on a Pierce-Arrow, and would like to see it get back onto a Lincoln, where it belongs. $300 plus shipping. Chris, greyhusky100@aol.com.
  2. Trunk Rack is pretty straight and has only minor surface rust. Has outer trim piece around the perimeter and small ornament in the middle along the top edge. Rack is very heavy! The part has some original paint on it and has never been crunched, but will need some minor straightening. Came to me mounted on a Pierce-Arrow, and would like to see it get back onto a Lincoln, where it belongs. $300 plus shipping. Chris, greyhusky100@aol.com.
  3. Hi Peter, You probably get this question 1000 times, but my first attempts at attaching a JPEG have not worked. Can you give a new guy a quick instruction? Thanks, 31Pierce43
  4. A friend copied this frame from an old 16 mm film of his grandfather. It would mean a lot if one of the many experts out there could identify the year and make of the car shown. I know the picture is not very sharp, but AACA members ARE very sharp and have made some pretty amazing identifications over the years! Thanks for your time and your help. It is appreciated. Happy Motoring. 31Pierce43
  5. Looking for an Owner's Manual for 1931 Pierce Arrow. Thanks for your help. 31Pierce43
  6. jsd, Is this a dash clock or a rear compartment clock? Electric or wind up movement? Running? Round? Rectangular? Black clock face or white? Any chance you can e-mail a picture? Thanks, 31pierce43
  7. Hi Don, Did you buy the car? Or are you doing some research? Copies of the information that you are looking for is available at a very reasonable price by writing to the Editor of the Pierce Arrow Society at www.pierce-arrow.org. There are a lot of great people in PAS that would love to help a new member. Let us know if we can be of help. Happy motoring, 31Pierce43
  8. Hello Don, Documented 1928 Series 81 engine numbers in the PAS Roster run from 8101149 to 8111068. The engine number should be stamped on top of the front right hand engine mount arm which is an integral part of the crankcase. Documented 1928 Series 81 Serial numbers in the PAS Roster run from 8101024 to 8111053. The Serial # should be stamped on a plate, (which also shows the engine #). The plate should be attached to the left side of the front seat frame, or possibly on a dash plate under the cowl. I think that you are wise to go see the car yourself. Pictures can hide a lot of detail. We looked for several years to find the right Pierce. We saw several on the internet that "looked" good, but when I went to see them, and drove them, there were issues that the pictures did not show and I was glad that I saw them in person! These would have been the wrong cars for my purposes. If you can, take along someone who maybe has an old car or 2. Two sets of eyes are better than one! These are wonderful cars and are a lot of fun. I would look carefully to see if the car is in original condition, or if it has been restored, and if so, what the quality of the work is. By all means, drive it, and more than just around the block. You can tell alot about the engine and cooling system by running it for a while and see how the cooling system responds. Does it overheat? Does it throw water out? Does it warm up and hold a steady temperature? I would also look for oil pressure, with the engine cold, and hot. Although it varies alot on these depending on engine condition, type of oil used, whether there is oil filter media in the cannister or not. If the oil pressure is much lower when hot, listen to the engine as it runs to see if there is additional noise that may confirm low oil pressure and potential issues. As was suggested before, the Pierce Arrow Society has a wealth of data and information and an enthusiastic membership that is always willing to help a new member. Good luck, 31Pierce43
  9. Hi David, Both lubrication charts that I have for Pierce recommend SAE 30 Motor oil. You probably also know that unless your fan assembly has been modified with modern seals, it is not sealed very well. If you overfill the reservoir, it will leak where the shaft exits the housing. Or...if you park with the car pointed uphill, it will also leak out the shaft opening and drip down the front of the engine. To properly fill it, and this is from the owner's manual, rotate the fan until the fill plug is at the top. Remove the fill plug. Add the oil, a Service Bulletin that I read says that it holds about 1.5 ounces of oil. Then rotate the fan so that the filler is at the bottom (still with the plug out) to let the excess oil run out. Then rotate the filler hole back to the top and re-install the fill plug. Oil occupies approximately 1/3 of the volume of the housing. This instruction came from the owner's manual and has been repeated in multiple PAS publications if you would like to further research it. Happy Motoring, 31Pierce43
  10. FLM, Your memory is correct. These archers are for 1934 to 1938 Pierce Arrows. Happy Motoring. 31Pierce43
  11. As an example, for 1931, Pierce Arrow introduced a Warner 3 speed synchromesh transmission with integral freewheeling unit. The freewheeling feature operates in 2nd and 3rd, and could be locked out if the driver preferred. It is interesting in that they advertised that when freewheeling was selected, the car transmission could be shifted between 2nd and 3rd or 3rd to 2nd without using the clutch (as long as the car was coasting with the freewheeling unit engaged). In looking through the literature, it was supposed to improve fuel economy by a quoted 12%, and quiet down the car, by allowing the engine to idle down when the car is coasting with the freewheel unit engaged. In practice, with freewheeling being selectable, I use the conventional shift pattern when going through hilly areas, and let the freewheel operate when the road is level....it works out ok. Happy Motoring 31Pierce43
  12. Hi Pint4, There is a 1932 Pierce for sale on eBay, right now. These are great cars. Do you have a preference between the 8 or the 12? Closed or Open? Pierces don't come up that often, but persistence pays off. We looked for about 3 years to find the "right one". Happy Motoring, 31Pierce43
  13. Hi Sheepdog, It is hard to say without looking at your hubcaps or without seeing a picture. Price will depend on condition. Dented hub cap skins with worn out chrome and rusty/greasy steel cores are worth about $10 ea. A restored hubcap ready to go on a car is worth about $100 or so. Sidemount hubcaps are worth a little more if they have the locks in them. Cheers, 31Pierce43.
  14. Hi Sheepdog, If there is a "12" in the center (along with the "Pierce" logo), this is for a 1932 through 1938 car. The V-12 cars were introduced in 1932, and the later hubcaps are slightly smaller in diameter than the 1929-31 hub caps and will not fit the earlier cars. Happy Motoring. 31Pierce43
  15. Greetings, 1930, You are correct, the 8 cylinder Pierce started to use the Purolator L4 in 1933. The V-12's used the L-5 Purolator. The numbers listed in your posting are indeed the Pierce model numbers for the mid-thirties. Model numbers with the "8" at the beginning were 8 cylinder cars. Similarly model numbers with the "12" at the beginning were 12 cylinder cars. Classic Car Club of America offers reproduction Purolator labels. Not sure of their exact application, but might be worth a try. I know these are round labels, and I have seen them used on several cars. I cannot recall seeing a square one like in your picture. Here is the information from their website: PUROLATOR OIL FILTER DECAL. Nice finishing touch to a restored engine compartment. Red/gold/black 2-1/8_ round decal. $3.95 each. Please include 10% for packing and postage. California residents add 7-3/4% sales tax. Southern California Region CCCA, P.O. Box 3742, Orange, CA 92857. Good luck in your quest. Happy Motoring. 31Pierce43
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