Brian_Heil

EmTee here’s a thread I found. I’m no expert. In 1923 Buick was working hard to get the jump on the switch from open cars to closed cars. I would say ‘yes’ to your question (what do I know ha) but the actual sales nomenclature Victoria came a few years later based on this post? Now where and why Victoria?

Just a comment for new members about 4 cylinder Vs 6 cylinder cars in this timeframe. Almost every part on the 4 cylinder car is ~25% smaller than on the six. Be careful when buying parts as they look nearly identical. In this case Mark is taking a 4 cylinder side curtain and blowing up and resizing the image to make it six cylinder size. Same holds true for Master and Standard series later on.

Thx Hugh. They are doing more good with you than sitting on my shelf. I bought them with the exact purpose they have been used for and all those they have helped.

And a very rare model. https://xr793.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/1923-Buick-Full-Line.pdf

I have a set of original side curtains good for patterns and to see how they were sewn. Thought you currently had them?

Posting a loose screw on this site could be a problem.

https://www.dezosmanuals.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/1916-Buick-Delco-Instruction-Book.pdf

Any 24 inch?

~20 years ago we had two other couples over for New Years Eve. Dinner out was coat and tie at a local establishment and then back to our house to ring in the new year. The other two gentlemen thought I should get my 1923 Buick out and take us all to dinner. It will be fun they thought. 5 miles one way in 15 F weather can’t be that bad. That old Buick will start won’t it? Oh, now they dropped a gauntlet…. The Buick did just fine. The wife knew what she was in for and wore her fur coat, fur hat and brought a lap blanket. Our guests got a refreshing ride. We supplied them several lap blankets. After dinner on the way home, you could not see any of the four in the back seat. Blankets covered them from head to toe.

Now, with that said, you should still visit it, The Henry Ford, The Gilmore and Stahl’s. You could make a week of it.

The Sloan has changed their focus in recent years away from automotive history. It is no longer called the Alfred P. Sloan Museum of Transportation as it was when it started. The Buick Gallery across the courtyard no longer exists. Most of their vehicles are in storage at a shopping mall that is nearly closed of other stores. Getting in this storage area is not easy and not open to the public. I was invited there to help identify some of the early Buick engines they have. I have heard good things about access to this area for specific vehicles they do have to assist in restorations. Some additional pics for the storage area.

I have visited their offsite facility within the past year. Here is a partial pic of the car.

Brass Buick ownership is not a requirement for the group. I always tell people interested in a certain marquee whatever it may be, join the club and local chapter, and the online group before you buy anything. Local chapter members often know where the good cars are AND where the not so good cars are too.

Looks like this one sold. I have one available if anyone else is still looking. PM me for details. Thx!

Note that most 6 cylinder and 4 cylinder parts(engine/chassis/body)from this timeframe do not interchange

And the arm is not solid but hollow and ~0.250 inch thick wall. Sort of house shaped cross section with the peak pointing at you and no floor.

Here’s a pic I took before I cleaned things up with the wire wheel for the welder. You can see the missing piece clearly. The Good Lord looks out for fools and children.

Sure looks that way doesn’t it? The crazy part about this failure is the small triangular piece of metal that came out of the fracture was on the floor of my garage. I stepped on it in my socks taking a bag of trash out to the bin. I picked it up at first thinking it was a piece of glass. It was dense steel, not cast iron. Where did it come from? I had a guess and I was right. What are the chances of that piece falling out in my garage and me stepping on it? Every time I greased the chassis or checked the differential lube I always gave those weld repairs a good look. Remember also, 1923 is the last year for rear only brakes so those arms do all the braking work. And if you think my garage is that clean, guess again.

This should help too Pete.

In the pic my head is under the car by the differential looking outboard at the back side of the drivers side brake backing plate and the subject reaction arm. The cracked arm is a casting that is riveted to the axle tube and to the brake backing plate. It’s what keeps the external brake band from rotating with the brake drum when the brake is applied.

When I purchased my 1923 Model 45 Buick I found both rear brake reaction arms cracked. I had them both welded. The material is cast steel so the welder has to know what they are doing. Fast forward 27 years and 45,000 miles. A recent inspection found them both cracked again. Repaired again and a successful Fall Tour in the books but I would be remiss if I did not suggest others inspect theirs.

Motoring icons beat me to it. I would have had to dig out my ‘70 Years of Buick’ to name them all but there were a bunch as he notes.

Anyone have a parts book handy that shows what years are covered by the subject cap? Thx!

Pre lube the washers and be gentle. The lids are fragile and known to crack

Good point.