Clipper47

Fine looking Buick! Price please ?

I have an old Allen analyzer that I am curious about. The oscilloscope does light up and I have used it on occasion. I would like help to determine how old it is? Does it date to the 1940's 1950's, 1960's ? Does it have any value as an antique? Does anyone have a manual they could lend me or scan a copy for me?

Chris, I saw you car advertised it was a beauty! This one is so messed up I don't think it will sell unless I find a buyer interested in a non original car. I will advertise locally and see if someone is interested. Thanks for you opinions and advice.

I have to agree..I hate those things also but that doesn't help put a price on the car.

Any help putting a general idea what the owner should ask for this car appreciated. Widow of long time BCA member needs help. Thanks

This 1962 Buick Invicta convertible belonged to a friend of mine who recently passed away. I am trying to assist the widow to sell the two Buicks he owned and prviously posted an ad for his 1929 sedan on this site. I don't know much about this Buick but it is customized somewhat. The engine and trans run fine and are pretty well stock as far as I can determine. The body has had work and been painted to a good standard. The interior is excellent with no rips or tears. It was shown at the Buick Club centennial meet in Flint a few years back. The widow was told by her late husband the car was worth $25000 and she is now asking $24000 and is anxious for the car to sell. Please direct any inquiries to me at kenne@shaw.ca and I will pass them along or try to answer them myself if I can. the car is located in Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada. My interest in old cars is limited to mainly Packards so any help in establishing a realistic "ballpark"value for this car would be appreciated. Thanks!

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This car is now for sale at $20000.00. Widow of deceased owner not desperate but willing to negotiate price. If interested e-mail me at kenne@shaw.ca for more photos , information and contact info. Thanks.

A dear friend of mine recently passed away and his widow has asked me to help her sell his 1929 Buick Series 121 Model 47 (4 door sedan), The car has had a recent engine rebuild and the paint, chrome and interior are very decent. I would rate the car as a very solid #3 condition but needing a new set of tires. The widow has an appraisal done in 2007 valuing the car at between $27-30,000 . My opinion is that it is worth substantially less given what I have been able to determine on the internet and in Hemmings etc. Can any of you Buick enthusiasts familiar with this model give me a ballpark estimate on what you feel the car might be worth? It is appreciated and more photos can be posted if necessary if anyone would like to consider buying the car.

I own a 1947 Super Clipper and also have a 6volt positive ground to 12 volt negative ground converter wired into my AM-FM radio and cigar lighter for my GPS etc.. I bought on Ebay also . Works great!

I totally agree and it is a major reason I haven't attended a PAC National in many years. It is not only my 60 + year old car that can't tolerate 90-100 degree weather! September when the crowds have left and the kids are back in school would be a better time IMHO but then again I am older than my car and no kids in school.

Pat, Nice to hear from you. No my car is a 47 Super that came from Fort Francis. The Custom Super Clipper which sat at Bonazzo's was sold to Ed Stanke in the Lappe area (tha's him leaning on the old Dodge Fargo truck) where it sat for several years. Many of the parts in my car and the spares are salvaged from that car however. The Custom had a large poplar tree fall on it two years ago which sadly crushed the entire rear portion so it is only good for parts at this point although it probably was unrestorable prior to that anyway. You obviously know your way around THunder Bay>

Nice Photo! Thanks for sharing. I am going to stick my neck out and suggest the Packard is pre 1927, possibly a 1925-26 (326 or 333?) Round headlights, painted bumper ends and horizontal split windshield would place it within those years.

Jim, I agree with bkazmer. There has been a 1938 V-12 Victoria coupe on ebay off and on for about a year now. The car is lovely but was originally an eight. It hasn't sold. As bkazmer mentioned, a replacement 288 in a 1951 200 would not be a big deal but in a '38 Super Eight the drop in value is significant as in this case.

A friend who owns a 1929 Buick Model 47 is missing a front wheel hubcap and sleeve and also a crankhole cover. If anyone knows anyone or has one or all of these parts for sale please contact me at kenne@shaw.ca Thanks!

I worked at Chrysler Canada in 1964. Quality was not a big issue. Cars built on Mondays and Fridays were often the worst as many workers called in sick with what we Canadians called "Blue Flu" named after the popular beer brand Molson's Blue. Quite often, usually on a Monday or Friday I was taken from my usual job and given some job like installing seat covers with a hog ring pliers or spot welding door panels with only a few minutes of basic instruction and then left to my own devices. My usual job was cadmium plating and I tried to do a consistently high quality plating job BUT when the foreman told me the assembly line needed parts "NOW" the parts were just given a dusting barely covering the bare metal and then off they went for assembly. The colour of the cadmium varied depending on the amount of time the parts were immersed in the plating solutions. My brother worked on the end of the assembly line on "trim repair" which was basically nipping and tucking any loose bits of metal or cloth that was obvious so the customer would not see it. I have to laugh when I hear some "expert" at a car show pontificating on what is the "correct" cadmium colour on an alternator bracket or how many hog rings should be holding down a seat cover on a 1960's North American car. The best built cars were the ones built for the employees. During lunch breaks an employee would drop by and say "My car is being made today so do a few extra spot welds etc. and mark a panel with a piece of chalk . If I was spot welding say a door panel to a door skin and I saw a chalk check mark or some other symbol I would give that panel extra spot welds. The worker would quite often goof off and move about the plant marking panels. Assembly line workers would use only checked marked parts when assembling a co-worker's car as it came down the line. All the same these were cars assembled by men with hand tools not some robot that no human will ever be able to fix or repair. That alone gives them a charm and character no modern mass produced cookie cutter car can ever have.

You are going to get a variety of answers to that one. Everyone who replies should offer a reason for their choice so perhaps we can all learn something. My choice would be the 1941 Clipper . It didn't have the new for 1940 356 engine until 1942 but it did have the longer hood on the 127"wheelbase. It was ahead of it's time with that Darrin inspired styling which combined with Packard quality was probably the most beautiful and finest American built car of the period.

I have Bosch halogen headlights in my 6 volt Packard and bought the 6 volt halogen bulbs from JC Whitney. They are every bit as bright as a 12 volt light so again no need for conversion.

O-D, Thanks, Those are my sentiments exactly. Not all of us have the wherewithal of a lawyer to finance the rebuild of a 1930 Packard Eight engine on speculation based upon a bit of blowby smoke. My advice is the same as others here to simply drive and enjoy the car after ensuring the oil pan is free of sludge, compression is even and all fluids are changed. Just take it easy and remember the limitations of an 80 year old car. Sounds like it is a lovely car.

I totally agree with DUCKfur. All things being equal I have seen no significant advantage for converting to 12 volts. Keep the 6 volt system and find out WHY it is not working properly before messing with a fine old car. All things being equal these cars start and run as well with original 6 volt equipment as they will with 12 volts. Do what's right to maintain the historical significance of the Cadillac by keeping it ORIGINAL and take pride in knowing you are preserving this history.

I think it is.

Rusty, I sense that you realize I was partial kidding. Everyone in Canada loves to bash Toronto and the GTA. Personally southern Ontario for the most part has become so crowded and congested I could not even imagine myself living down there. I think the term global warming is a misnomer and we should be referring to climate change as that is what we are experiencing. I have worked outside in the north for almost 50 years and I can tell you things are changing. We have deer, raccoons and other southern species (riff raff) living up here that were not here 20 years ago in or if they did not in such abundant numbers and indigenous species like caribou and moose are disappearing at an alarming rate. The sun is definitely stronger that it was only a few years ago. In the past the sun rays in January were barely felt but now January feels like March and the rays have much greater warmth. I am not saying this climate change is man made but something is happening to weather patterns. Whether or not man made or earth entering a warming cycle or the sun getting hotter or closer etc. we cannot deny that we are seeing significant changes can we?

Rusty, You live in SOUTHERN Canada where you have to call out the army when you get a little snow storm. Now where I live (still only in northern portion of southern Canada)we haven't had an honest -40 without windchill factored in for several years. Personally I love a very cold winter as it keep the riff raff down south and I love to ski and snowshoe. I left Canada's banana belt 47 years ago for Baffin Island so I could enjoy a real winter and now it is being ruined by all this pollution. Me and the polar bears aren't happy about it. :mad:

It looks like an excellent buy for a 8-40 in this condition. Wish I had the money.

Here is a website where photos of the modified Packards and other makes used by the Canadian Pacific Railway as Inspctor transportation cars may be viewed. Google Image Result for http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/Various/images/M600.jpg