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You might also want to get a quote from Five Points in California. They rebuilt mine this past winter and I am satisfied completely with the work and the quick, courtious and efficient manner of how they do business. I also can't hep with the hubcap tabs but if anyone will have them it wil be Max Merritt or Kanter. I see Merrit has them on their online catalogue. http://www.classicautoshocks.com/rebuilt.htm http://www.maxmerrittauto.com/

I have a set of G75/15 Remington Cushion Airs on my Packard. They are 95% also but are 30 years old. I don't trust them but they still look great with no sidewall cracking etc. The asking price is way too much. I would sell you my whole set for $100!

Mike, That $1000 seems awfully high in my opinion. That would equate to about $1200 Canadian. I had mine recored about 4 years ago for less that $500CDN. Something wrong here. Get another quote. Happy Easter!

I have owned a 1947 Cadillac Imperial 75, a 1947 Chrysler New Yorker and presently a 1947 Packard Super Clipper. From the point of view of silent running there is, in my opinion, little to choose from . Essentially all three cars were prewar designs as pointed out so perhaps not an answer to your question. As for ride the Cadillac with it's longer wheel base and weight probably had the advantage but suspension systems of the three were similar.

Lauren. I've been to the Grand Rapids car show a couple of times but not with my '47 Packard Super Clipper. I think you will find a lot of help is available from the great bunch of enthusiasts in this forum. Welcome!

Yes the Clipper was the name Packard gave to the series. The 1941 Clipper was a single model with 127" wheelbase,4 doors and the 282 CID 8 cylinder engine. In 1942 the line was greatly expanded to include a club sedan, a 120"WB line and a 127" WB line with 6 and 8 cylinder engines. This line of cars continued into the 1946-47 models. The Clipper name was used for all models and the nameplate was affixed to the front doors of all models except the top of the line Custom Super Clipper.

Quote: I give up. You guys know what you want so desparately to believe. Have fun. Don't let the door hit you in the A** on the way out! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Good deals rarely do. "You snooze you lose" <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Quote: From what I have read it always seemed Nance delivered a message to the public, the press, and the sales people that Packard was strong...almost like there were no worries. And I remember reading that it seemed that anything that was happening to the Company that was "bad" was delt with in confidential notes, etc. My perception, by what little I have read, is that the workers nor the public realized how bad off Packard was until the bitter end. I remember reading that there were reductions in Plant operations for various reasons, (supplies, metal, etc)...but it seemed like the entire time, Nance kept a smile on his face and portrayed the image that everything was alright I suspect that it would have been suicide for the official company line to it's customers, dealers and media be that Packard was on the ropes. The 55-56 cars were by any standard of the day at the forefront of engineering and style and probably as well made as any automotive product in the world except maybe the early 55's from the Connor Ave. plant start up woes.. I went to the auto show in Detroit with my grandfather in, I think late 1954, and remember seeing the '55 Patrician that went 25,000 miles "Non stop except for oil and gas". Nance I think had great hopes for the restyled Packard and the new V-8 and his plan to separate the lines so that Packard was exclusively a luxury car brand once more had merit. I don't think he was ever a defeatist. My 2 cents.

John, I have been a long time fan of Mr.Langworth. He is a very accomplished historian and author. He didn't get to be a Commander of the British Empire by writing nonsense.

Pete, Just in case you are interested.....I would say his opinion on Packard history has some considerable weight. I'll admit, however, he's just a kid along side of you..... <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Richard M. Langworth CBE (born 1941- ) is a Moultonborough, New Hampshire and Eleuthera, Bahamas based author of books and magazine articles, specializing in automotive history, automobile makes, brands and American and European automobile manufacturers. He was editor of The Packard Cormorant from 1975 through 2001, and is a Trustee of the Packard Motorcar Foundation (Detroit, MI). His works have won awards from the Antique Automobile Club of America, Society of Automotive Historians, Old Cars Weekly, Packard Club and Graphic Arts Association of New Hampshire.

quote: P.S.--love the smoke theory, the British must have developed this. Your right on Lord Joseph Lucas created the first auto electric switch which operated with captured smoke in 1882. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Seriously I wonder if the heater could be operated through a relay which would take the load from the switch.

Cormorant still for sale. I will bargain down a bit if someone is interested in making an offer. The photos were taken with a flash and macro lens setting so every smudge and fine polish scratch is visible. The ornament looks much better than in the pictures.

I also think you would be pleased owning a 22-23rd series Packard. My preference would be a Custom because of the extra wheelbase, the 356" engine , the eggcrate grille and plush interior etc. but be prepared to pay more than for a junior car or a lot more money to restore since replacing chrome or interiors on these cars is very expensive. Still in my opinion they are bargains compared to the earlier but mechanically identical Custom Super Clippers.They are all very sturdy, reliable and easy top work on cars regardless of what model you choose. If you can get one with overdrive that is a nice bonus.

Mike, Can you post a photo? Any part #'s visible?

I agree, let Pete speak his mind and let the debates begin without personalities getting in the way. Pete has expressed an opinion on the reasons for the demise of Packard which many others share and so far that is all. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and if you disagree then let us hear it. I don't care how many times he was banned from some now defunct forum or even this one. The fact is that the powers that be have allowed him back and as long as he remains civil he should be allowed to stay. Come on you 1951-56 guys get in there and rebut but please no personal slurs. In other words lets just talk "Packard" here.

Amazing what 6 extra holes in an intake manifold can make. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Packard-5...1QQcmdZViewItem

JT, Do without pink! I remember those years 1955-56 years vividly. Our art teacher Miss McKenzie came to school in a pink and charcoal Plymouth and my brother and his duck tailed hair style buddies all wore charcoal sports jackets and pink shirts to the high school dances. Pink was cool! Packard would have been missing the boat without offering the colour to it's customers. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">By the way, I can't hang a beaver tail from the antenna. If you look closely, that got taken off too <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> </div></div> West, Now in all my years I never saw anyone hang a beaver tail from a car antenna. Fox and raccoon tails maybe but never a beaver! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

How I remember as a kid leafing through the buy and sell section of car magazines drooling over Duesenbergs for sale. My 25 cent a week allowance got me in the Saturday matinee a coke and popcorn and then I was broke for another week!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">somewhere I read that the "356" engine, with overdrive, in a coupe body, would have been the world's fastest production car of its day. I'd match a bone-stock '40 or '41 "160" coupe with overdrive and a "356" against ANY pre-war production car, and I mean ANY, either in a drag race or "flat out". </div></div> Steve Snyder, in Orange, California, has one of those and that's exactly what he says, too. For those of you wondering why the o.d.-equipped cars would be beneficial in a drag race, it's because normally you got a higher ratio gear set in the rear end, so that without the o.d. engaged, you have a lot more torque. </div></div> Not only that you can shift from 2nd to 2nd overdrive After 22mph or so and that gear can be held up to well past 60! I rarely but occasionally get into little impromtue drags with my '47 and that "long" second gear is a real advantage. Zero to 60 in 19 seconds can still be a fun ride! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Quote: What makes me mad is the presumption that street rodding these cars is the only way to make them road-worthy. It's almost a mantra to this obsession that you can't drive an antique but you can a street rod. In the mean time many of them are modified to within a millimeter of being unstreetable themselves I agree that this seems to be the justification for many street rodders. I get that remark constantly. Funny how us old guys like me can remember crossing the country as kids in 1934 Fords etc. let alone Packards and not having any problems along the way.

Woody, Why would you want to torture us? There is nothing anyone can do to prevent the desecration of this history. As aptly said in the Packard forum; It's like Andy Warhol touching up the Mona Lisa( or worse since Andy wasn't a bad painter). <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

I have a 9 NOS point sets in Auto-Lite Boxes. I was told that they would fit my Packard but they don't. I have been advised that these point sets fit Chrysler, Dodge , Desoto distributors with the 331 to 392 Hemi engines. The points are identified as 1-14 IGW 3028Xs (see photo) If anyone is interested in buying them send me a PM with me an offer for the 9 sets.

That's great I think Kanter was trying prodesse quam conspici. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />