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  1. There have been some great responses to Hemiken's thread on the '42 DeSoto trunk light,

    but I think a separate thread is needed to bring out all '42 survivors. At least the one's

    owned by folks who read and post here.

    A quick Google search revealed these images (and some non-S-10's), so perhaps the

    owners of '42's of all body styles will share their cars' pics and stories here.

    I've fed my '42 S-10 fixes vicariously thru polara61's purchase of his blue Custom Convertible

    many years ago, and was delighted to see the other 'verts, too; the amazing

    is one I thought I'd never see.

    84544d1302234214-1942-desoto-trunk-light-42-desoto1a.jpg

    polara61's S-10 'vert.

    Although this thread is about about survivng cars, let's take a look at the '42's that live on in film,

    courtesy of IMCDb.org. My favorite is, "The Strange Love of Martha Ivers," in which they crash(!)

    the convertible in the opening scenes, but, "The Postman Always Rings Twice," features both

    a Convertible and a Sedan. Their list is growing, and there's a Sedan, heavily-featured,

    in an Abott & Costello flic set on a dude ranch, but I can't recall the movie's title.

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    In "Postman," this 'vert makes a cameo appearance, but the sedan is seen often.

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    As one who spends too much time watching old movies on TCM (for the cars, of course!), I have yet

    to see an S-10 Sky-View Taxicab (a personal Holy Grail), and I've been looking! IMCDb shows one

    in "Saboteur," but it doesn't have the '42's unique "Desoto Sky-View" roof light; after watching the film,

    you never see its face (its screen time is too brief), and I'd lay odds that it's a '41.

    Since the last time I searched, two '42 Sky-Views have appeared, but I'm afraid both are long gone...

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    First, from a period documentary at IMCDb.org.

    And this Sky-View, which can be found in a fascinating story of the Waters Mfg. Co.

    (the company that converted the taxis), over at Coachbuilt.com.

    oo1942DeSoto_Waters_1.jpg

    oo1947_DeSoto_Waters_3.jpg

    Both Sky-View images from Coachbuilt.com

    So, '42 owners, let's see and hear about your beautiful S-10's,

    whether they're projects, drivers, or show cars!

    Thanks,

    TG

  2. I would also point out those pages make no reference to the Impala which had a 3,080 lb weight for a basic variation of the vehicle.

    You'll find Impalas listed with the Bel Air where they belong, a model within that series.

    20 years ago when the Red Books first entered my library, they came in very handy when a buddy bought a set of tires for his '47 Roadmaster, based on info from the Buick Club Judging Manual for those models. Once mounted, the trunk wouldn't close over the spare, and the rear wheels couldn't be fitted. The judging manual had used info from Buick's '48-'49 supplement shop manual, which listed a larger set of tires for '48-'49.

    The Red Book for '47 had the correct tires listed, and the bigger, wrong tires went on his '48 Fleetwood. After we contacted the BCA, they corrected their manual accordingly, saving others from making the same mistake.

    Revered or not, the difference from right and wrong info, unless it's corrected, can cost many hundreds of dollars; not so with the weights we were discussing. If you can find better period data, please share it with us.

    TG

  3. Jim,

    Those weight ranges are wrong, and apparently were lifted from 50 Years of the American Automobile 1939-1989,

    which is often wrong. The numbers I posted came from the Red Book, Nat'l Used Car Market Report (10/1-11/14, 1960),

    a period source which I trust more than any web listing or modern publication.

    Charlotte AutoFair is soon upon us, and I'll try and find specs from factory lit for '57 & '58 Chevys while I'm there.

    The Red Book shows that the lightest '57 Chevy was the V-8 150 2dr Utility sedan, at 3,159 lbs.

    For '58, the lightest was the V-8 Delray 2dr Utlity sedan at 3,298 lbs. If my source is wrong (which it never has been),

    I'll happily concede the mistake after seeing printed, factory data, and post it here.

    TG

  4. On a model for model comparison, these are the factory weights of '57 & '58 Chevy V-8 cars...

    Bel Air sedan...'57= 3,272; '58= 3,440

    Convertible......'57= 3,405; '58= 3.508

    6-P wagon.......'57= 3,456; '58= 3,741

    The '58's are 100-300 lbs heavier out of the box with base 6 & 8 engines.

    I found no example of a '58 being lighter than its '57 counterpart.

    The numbers also show a weight-savings with V-8 versus I-6 power for '57 only.

    '57 Bel Air 2drht....I-6= 3,283; V-8= 3,274

    '58 Impala 2drht...I-6= 3,419; V-8= 3,442

    57_velveetax.jpg

    It's America's Cheese!

    TG

  5. Take that thought a step further Brian, and consider the instant obsolescense

    of Deane Buick's monogram with its fins and dogleg. Though a generic design,

    hopefully they didn't have too many remaining after the toned-down '61's debut.

    The little car makes it a favorite.

    60_225_bj_2008_deanex.jpg

    Larger, seen on a '60 at a 2008 auction, these show up on ebay fairly often.

    TG

  6. Just got the January Bugle today, and hat's off to Pete Phillips for another excellent issue.

    Kudos are in order to Brian Laurance for his considerable contributions, too. Scanning one of

    the larger photos, there is a period picture of Wilkie Buick, Philadelphia, PA (courtesy of Brian),

    which immediately drew my attention.

    Next to the large neon BUICK sign over the door, is the deal's name in a unique script.

    It jumped out at me as I have the same "byWilkie," scaled way down as the monogram that

    they affixed to their cars, post-sale.

    wilkie_buick_phila.jpg

    I believe this was a junkyard find about 15 years ago, or else an early ebay purchase.

    Nothing earth-shattering, but it's very cool to be able to mate the monogram to its long-

    lost home.

    Thanks again to Pete, Brian and all else who continue to make the Bugle such a fine, eagerly-

    anticipated publication.

    TG

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  7. You could try Lewis Jenkins (Jenkins Restorations) in N. Wilkesoro, NC; he's one of the best in the biz,

    and probably has correct material.

    (336) 687-4282

    It won't be inexpensive, but he's a master at blending maintenance and restoration on original cars.

    The Streamliner is a Dreamliner, and I'll add my envy of and happiness for you

    to all the responses you've received. :)

    TG

  8. John,

    Thanks for an incredibly detailed thread, especially for naming your contributors/suppliers;

    this has to be one of the most informative discussions on the entire Forum.

    It will be a Go-To manual when we begin our own work on this '34 Eight Coupe Roadster,

    one of the few Standard versions extant, and a true Time Warp car if there ever was one.

    34_ecm_13a.jpg

    Thanks again, and I can't wait to visit the Citizens Motor Car Company!

    TG

    PS, please disregard the incorrect Super 8 caption from this 1951 photo.

  9. The body looks really nice; if the interior's as good, drop a 350 or 305 in it,

    and you'll have an $800-$1,200 car, regardless. I understand about him

    being your baby, but to everyone else, he's just an old 4-door sedan,

    the least collectible of all body styles.

    But then, there are a lot of folks who like 4-door sedans, myself included.

    Best of luck, just don't crush him,

    TG

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  10. TG's Recipe For Disaster:

    Take a deserving old car, in this case, a full-blown True Classic.

    Add a vague, but highly-decorative description.

    Throw in a good measure of the goods and bads.

    Whet your guest's appetites, but don't forget to exclude photos.

    Toss out the title and registration, a faux pas at any car connoisseur's table.

    Mix it all together in large boxes and bins, carefully fold in a generous dash of attitude...

    Et voila!

    We're all ready to run screaming from the table. :rolleyes:

    TG

    aka Lookey Lewey

  11. Nordberg of Sweden built many Buicks during the Coachbuilt Era,

    and here are a few more examples from Special Interest Autos'

    early years; SIA #9, Jan-Mar, 1972...

    33_nordberg_buick_sia9x.jpg

    Larger, click once after opening.

    This '33 Victoria Cabriolet is quite different from Buick's American offerings.

    34_nordberg_buick_cabrio_sia9x.jpg

    Larger

    A lovely 1934 Cabriolet makes fine use of that year's flowing lines.

    38_nordberg_buick_sia9x.jpg

    Larger

    12 of these stunning Cabrios were constructed for 1938, six each of sedans and coupes.

    38_nordberg_buick_sia9_ccx.jpg

    Larger

    The unique sliding doors exhibited on the '38 Cabrio coupe made opening

    them in tight spaces much easier.

    Modern photos of the '38 can be found at Coachbuild.com

    TG

  12. I've been mining a collection of recently-purchased Special Interest Autos

    to add to this growing thread...

    31_mayfair_buick_sia8x.jpg

    Larger, click once after opening to enlarge.

    This partially-restored '31 Mayfair-bodied Buick was shown circa 1971.

    32_van_den_plas_buick_sia8x.jpg

    Larger

    Van den Plas is credited with this '32; whether it's the Belgian VdP or Paris is unknown.

    33_drauz_buick_sia8x.jpg

    Larger

    A 1933 bodied by Drauz of Germany.

    33_glaser_buicksia8x.jpg

    Larger

    Glaser of Germany built this pretty '33.

    34_chapron_buick_sia8x.jpg

    Larger

    Henri Chapron of Paris created this lovely 1934 Buick.

    35_d_iteren_freres_buick_sia8x.jpg

    Larger

    The Belgian concern of D'Iteren Freres bodied this '35.

    37_carlton_buick_sia12x.jpg

    Larger

    This Carlton-bodied '37 Drophead Coupe has been discussed elsewhere.

    TG

  13. This isn't preaching to the choir, but I thought you may like to see from whence the Brunn Customs came;

    the 140" whb Buick Series 90 Limited. The 1941 prestige brochure is the largest in my meager collection,

    and the beautiful illustration below of the Model 91F Formal Sedan measures a whopping 14" long...

    41_limited_formal_sedanx.jpg

    Larger, Series 91F with 165hp, 320cid straight eight.

    41_model_91f_interior.jpg

    Larger, the interior of the Limited Formal Sedan; small wonder Cadillac execs were jealous!

    TG

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