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  1. From my Canadian 1963 "Red Book, National Used Car Market Report," which covers cars back to 1956,

    the earliest M-B's to appear are the 1958 models, P.O.E. prices...

     

    180 Sedan........$3,270

    180a Sedan........3,270

    180D Sedan........3,475

     

    190 Sedan..................3,545

    190SL Roadster.........5,595  

    190SL Cpe Rdster......5,845   (convertible with hardtop)

     

    219 Sedan.......3,785

    220S Sedan.....4,500

    220S Conv.......7,900   (Cabriolet)

     

    300d Sedan............11,500

    300SL Roadster.....12,500

     

    By 1960, the prices were...

     

    180 Sedan........$3,380

    180D Sedan........3,470

     

    190D Sedan..................3,710

    190SL Coupe................5,615   (convertible w/o hardtop)

    190SL Cpe Roadster....5,615   (convertible with hardtop)

     

    220 Sedan..........4,105

    220S Sedan........4,705

    220SE Sedan......5,200

    220SE Coupe......8,400

    220SE Conv.........8,400   (Cabriolet)

     

    300SL Cpe Rdstr......12,500

     

    TG

     

  2. From my trusty 1960 "Red Book, National Used Car Market Report," which covers cars back to 1953,

    the earliest M-B's to appear are the 1956 models, P.O.E. East Coast prices...

     

    180 Sedan........$3,150

    180D Sedan........3,428

     

    190 Sedan..................3,298

    190SL Sport Coupe...4,295  (convertible with hardtop)

    190SL Convertible.....3,998 

     

    219 Sedan.......3,680

    220S Sedan.....4,494

    220S Conv.......7,138   (Cabriolet)

     

    300 Sedan............7,078

    300 Limo..............7,368

    300S Coupe.......12,898

    300S Conv..........12,898

    300S Roadster...12,898

    300SL Spt. Cpe....7,295

     

    By 1960, the prices were, P.O.E. East Coast...

     

    180 Sedan........$3,250

    180D Sedan........3,527

     

    190 Sedan.....................3,441

    190D Sedan..................3,718

    190SL Roadster............5,032

    190SL Coupe................5,244   (convertible with hardtop)

    190SL Cpe Roadster....5,428   (I can't figure out why 3 190SL versions are listed for 1960)

     

    220 Sedan..........4,283

    220S Sedan........4,583

    220SE Sedan......5,018

    220SE Coupe......8,091

    220SE Conv.........8,091   (Cabriolet)

     

    300 Sedan................10,070

    300 Conv Sdn..........12,644  ("Adenauer" 4-door convertible sedan not listed in Red Book for 1956)

    300SL Roadster.......10,950

    300SL Coupe...........11,128

    300SL Cpe Rdstr......11,397

     

    Hope this helps...

     

    TG

  3. The car in question looks a highly modified '51-'52 DeSoto Diplomat, minus the grille while still possessing its white "moustache." As others have noted, it's really difficult to know as bumpers and sheet metal are often swapped and side trim may be missing.

     

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    The '52 Diplomat below was taken in Havana in August, 2106, and in 6 subsequent trips I've begun to document the many Chrysler Export Division models there, primarily the DeSoto Diplomat and Dodge Kingsway versions with Plymouth bodies.

     

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    I wish keiser31 had some of his Dad's material from his career at Chrysler Export, as the cars and their ultimate destinations are fascinating.

     

    TG

  4. Curiously, after seeing Centurion's resurrected post on the Lido, just last week I picked up this obscure book published in Switzerland, the International Automobile Parade, Volume II from 1958.

     

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    On a page devoted to Pinin Farina of Turin, the Buick Lido and a similar Alfa Romeo were pictured. 

     

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    Note the 15-inch difference in wheelbases between the two.

     

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  5. It's noted at the beginning of this thread that we can look abroad for many coachbuilt Plymouths.

    If I owned any of these Plymouths, I would apply for and hope to receive Full Classic status for them,

    as defined by current classifications standards. 

     

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    1933 Plymouth by Castagna.

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    1934 PE Cabriolet by Langenthal, design and construction of the patent Alexis Kellner.  

    http://www.coachbuild.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=67595#p67595

     

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    1933 Plymouth Cabriolet by Rosch of Austria.

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    1934 Plymouth PE Cabriolet by Tüscher of Switzerland.

    http://www.coachbuild.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2152#p2152

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    1936 Plymouth by J.H. Jensen of Denmark.

    http://www.coachbuild.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=997&t=14337&p=60761&hilit=plymouth#p60761

     

  6. In the 1940-60 Master Body Parts Book, that part # is listed as;

     

    12.116  Moulding, Rear Door Outer Panel Bead - At Belt

    4696295 (Rt)   296 (Lt)    1957- 53-73-73A-75

    4697620...6                       1957- 53-73-73A-75 (Clip)

     

    Excellent that you got the part numbers for it!

     

    Three listings down there's a different part number for the 56R, 75R, 76A and 76R.

    And there's a second set of numbers (and clip #) for the 53, 73, 73A and 75,

    which makes sense owing to the door ears' two-part configuration on Riviera Sedans.

     

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    That second listing must be a teeny-tiny little piece of trim.

     

    TG

     

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  7. Quote

    Not sure what you would call this, but its from a cigar.

    Hey Hometowner,

     

    You'd call it a cigar band, and you'd casually toss it next to your Buick Management Meeting cocktail coaster, during your pow-wow at the Flint Industrial Executives Club. As the representative for Folger's Buick, Charlotte, NC, celebrating the FIEC's 40th Anniversary, the subject of your meeting: Reliability Is Your Business.

     

    Cigar Ring Hometown Buick.JPG

     

    If you were a thoughtful type, you'd bring the cigar band home to your adolescent son, who would either wear it himself as a ring, or give it to his girlfriend. 

     

    Ashtrays 1X.jpg

     

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    Sadly, I imagine there's little left to celebrate these days, and wonder if the Flint Industrial Executives Club's building is still standing.

     

    TG 

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  8. Did anyone see this rare-in-the-U.S. 1970 Opel Rekord GT? It was for sale on ebay, had original paint and interior, low mileage, but didn't meet the reserve, bid to $6,100. They weren't officially imported, but this one was brought over in '72, as I recall from the listing. I see them in at the Veterama Show in Mannheim, Germany, but never saw one on this side of the Pond.

     

    What a cool ride to take to an Opel Club meet!

     

    TG

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  9. Congratulations Jan, I look forward to the '57 radio spot, for obvious reasons!

    Much success to you and Hometown Buick. Check out Jeff Stork's Buick Town

    on Facebook...he's from a GM family and a retired Buick guy who grew up in Flint

    and runs a great page. Dedicated to original Buicks and full of insight, I think it

    would be a good fit for you. 

     

    Is there a European show/swap meet that you think is the best for American cars?

    I come to the Veterama Show in Mannheim on some years looking for Mercedes

    parts, but no Buicks.

     

    Again, best wishes,

    TG

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  10. Springtime for us in these parts means it's time for the AACA SE Region Spring Meet at Charlotte AutoFair.

    I missed ll the azaleas and dogwood blooms, but having the Roadmistress out at the speedway made up for it.

    The weather was chilly and VERY windy, 35-40mph gusts, but the lighting was superb!

     

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    57 Buick Gibson 1X.jpg

     

    TG

     

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  11. On 4/17/2016 at 6:21 PM, ScarredKnightfan said:

    *grins*

     

    I've showcased a few of those pics on OC,SH, Tom. ;)

     

    As for me ... I was given a Buick collection a couple years ago.  Attached is a sampling....

     

     

    Cort > www.oldcarsstronghearts.com
    pigValve.paceMaker.cowValve | 79 CC to ?? Mercury Grand Marquis!!

    "It helps fill an empty place" __ Charly McClain __ 'Radio Heart'

    BuickCollection09092013_largeModels.jpg

     

    Nice gift Cort!

     

    TG

  12. These are not inexpensive diecasts, but are white metal or resin-cast models brimming with detail. There is a difference, in price, in quality, and how one who collects them bristles when the casual onlooker calls them "toys".  ;)

     

    American Excellence released this '57 Caballero a few years ago in resin, and here it's mated with Brooklin's 1961 Airstream Bambi. It's a lilliputian twin to Centurion's BoS 1/18th model he so capably pictured recently.

     

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    From what many collectors consider the "Golden Era" of white metal models, Conquest Models' 1957 Roadmaster 75 Riviera Sedan was produced in very limited runs, in the low-hundreds. Although the headlight bezels should be painted body color, it's a fine example of a vintage 1990 white metal model that has stood the test of time. Its travel mate here is Brooklin's 1958 Shasta AirFlyte, with wings!

     

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    If you're wondering how to capture models in "realistic" surroundings like this, it's no secret, anyone can do it. Shoot a background (for depth of field), put it against your "roadway" (which can be as simple as grey matte board, in this case, a bit more elaborate), shoot at about four feet at F32, focusing about a third of the way into the subject, and you're done. No Photoshop or post-production, although I do use a program to sharpen and contrast the image.

     

    I shoot these in my carport for the natural, diffused light, with only a reflector made of aluminum foil, spray-mounted on foamcore.

     

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    This is USA Models' 1958 Fleetwood 75 Limousine, detailed with Bare Metal Foil to resemble its much more expensive Motor City brethren, again from the early-'90's. The driveway is just grey matte board.

     

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    While modern resin models offer much more detail, the longevity of their finely wrought and delicate, photo-etched parts remains to be seen. The shoot for the Caballero above was the first time it was off its plinth and out of the box since its purchase about three years ago.

     

    As a generalist in both models and 1:1 cars, I count on one hand the number of my Buick 1/43rd scale models. I'm confident that Centurion will hop on board and post some of his vast collection of postwar 1/43rd Buicks. His 1/43rd scale dealership is a sight to behold!

     

    Still playing with cars after all these years,

     

    TG

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