Added to my previous post is the fact that I never drove the car in snow ,ice ,salt. One time I got caught in the rain coming home from a show over in Wyalusing, Pa. But, the CLASSIC performed as a Packard should. Needless to say,I was proud of her! I will post a picture when I get someone who knows how, to do it for me. If interested email me jaypa1@epix.net