JO BO

What interests me also is particular attention is shown to the car by holding up a sheet etc to block background(s). So was it special to them? Being offered for sale? Other? It appears tires are either flat or bad so was it sitting awhile hence the layer clothing aspect? I believe the PA plate to be either 1910 or 1911 from what research I have done. I have a special need to know. Thanks so much. I only hope records exist for plate/ registration or the name John Shoemaker appears somewhere in the state/ county registry with yr/make now where do I find those records?

Thanks so much for the work on them....helps. Wish the PA license plate could be tracked to a registry

Would anyone here on this forum be able to access Pennsylvania registration records for 1910-11 to see what vehicles John Shoemaker owned then if that info exists. I would be willing to pay for your time. thanks

And more

More pics

Very clean , turns free with good compression. Probably your. Only chance to own such a rare motor. $8000 shipped CONUS.

Sorry sold it

Difficult one isn't it

Does anyone have skills to make the pictures lighter/clearer to get more detail? Thanks

Kinda funny how they are holding a sheet behind the car for photos as the car is meant to be primary subject.

Kinda funny how they are holding a sheet behind the car for photos as the car is meant to be primary subject.

Still can't pin this puppy down.

Can't find a Columbia model that matches the mystery car. Lots of detail/design differences. Hope the search continues with success at some point.

Did someone restore it later on? lol Some have probably been started with less.

I will see if I can find more early Columbia ads to compare ..thanks for the lead

Thanks for the Union guess but yes lots of differences ...tiller steering comes off the side in mystery car while Union holds the steering in the middle of car. Panels have vertical position where mystery car has fewer in number and horizontal. Front seat shape is different etc. thanks everyone for chasing the I’d of this car....it means a lot to me. Hopefully someone will find the answer. Wish they would have written it on the back of one of the pics.

I tried to do some research via the license plate number (Pennsylvania 1908 or09) and found early plates for Penn cars were just licenses issued for the driver and not the machine...so disappointing to learn that

Wish I had access to the Pennsylvania license plate registry as that is either a 1908 or 09 Penna tag hanging from front axle. Looks like 3941 or perhaps 13941 If the pic was in color could tell if 08/09 but no color then. We could see what it was registered as. Think John Shoemaker owner

Beautiful early tiller steering auto. What is it?

Rats!

Have a 1926 Special Six parts car touring ..wonder if the parts are interchangeable if so you should come and pick it up for just $500. Or someone else could do a speedster project.

Hi Yes I still have this piece. Thanks

Thanks so much for that info. I read online Nebraska had passed a law in 1928 requiring motor wheel vehicles to be licensed. Would like to be sure where the plate originated from so an original picture would be super.

Yes That plate would work for that Auto Red Bug and any cart/sled/bicycle that had a motor wheel of any brand eg. ( Smith, Merkel, Briggs etc.)

Yes I think the lower plate would be for buggy and idea of Smith auto wheel is interesting.......maybe they did make them license motorized bicycles in some states .