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  1. Carter used a few "week" "month" "year" dates in 1961, 1962 and 1963. However, I have seen only A's, B's, and C's, never a D. Certainly not all carbs produced during this time used the 3 character date. While the 3503s was modified into the 3503sa, there is nothing in the Carter original documentation to indicate that the 3665s was so modified. In the "for what its worth" category, the 3503sa used a different throttle body than the 3503s. Jon.
  2. Model car and slot car catalogs, track layouts, and service manuals. Shipping within the 48 contiguous United States $15. per order by UPS. Outside 48 states, please call VISA, Mastercard, Money Order, personal check 573-392-7378 (9-4 Mon-Tues central time). Will ship free (48 states) for 10 or more item order. NO PM's. Post wants here, or call. Jon. Company Date Title Auther Condition Price AMT 1975 Catalog Like new $15.00 AMT 1976 Covering the world of hobby kits Excellent $15.00 AMT 1977 Midyear News (model kits) Like new $8.00 AMT 1977 New Horizons in hobby kits Like new $15.00 AM
  3. The main discharge nozzle is a brass tube with several holes of different diameters which is from maybe 3/4 inch to 1 1/2 inches. It has an oversize threaded head. The head of the main discharge nozzle will be exposed after removal of the bowl retaining nut. The nozzle screws into the same passage as the bowl retaining nut and extends into the bottom of the standpipe. There are many different lengths, diameters, a couple of different threads; but they all resemble the above description. Jon.
  4. The carburetor should be completely disassembled (other than press-in parts) prior to using the caustic. The pumps simply unscrew, but the zinc alloy ones often snap when one attempts to remove them. Do we sell parts? If we have them. I realize you stated you have the one with the long pump, but that doesn't help identify your carburetor (there are at least 2 different long pumps, and at least 4 different short ones). In fact, Carter made 42 DIFFERENT versions of the DRT-08. We have original prints and parts for most of them. The item that seems to be almost unique to a specific carburetor on
  5. The zinc alloy used on the DRT-08 standpipes was the early alloy with much more lead than more modern alloy. Over time, this alloy tends to "grow". Even with the original standpipe tool (useful for installing a new standpipe), one has a 99.9999999999999999999999999 percent probability of breaking the original standpipe when removing. The secret: break out the original (the choker cone probably won't slide on it anyway); remove all traces of the zinc alloy from the casting by cleaning in hot caustic lye (CAUTION - THIS SHOULD BE DONE BY SOMEONE WITH THE PROPER SAFETY EQUIPMENT!!!!! THE ZINC ALL
  6. If you are still looking, I have the turbo intake, carb, injection pump, controls, and air cleaner available: http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Jetfire-1.jpg http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Jetfire-2.jpg http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Jetfire-3.jpg http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Jetfire-4.jpg http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Jetfire-5.jpg Jon
  7. The Buick carburetor used by the Briscoe was zinc alloy. I have yet to see one that was useable due to cracks. If not a number-matching show car, you might consider an alternative aftermarket unit. My guess would be the Stromberg OF-1 (replacement for Ford model ) would probably be a decent choice for the Briscoe. Jon.
  8. 1937~1938 Buick carburetors. Buick used two different vendors in these years: (A) Marvel (at this stage a.k.a. Marvel/Schebler) and ( Stromberg. The Marvel downdraft was the last gasp for a company trying to hold on to its customer base. Marvel kept Buick through 1938, and Graham through 1939. The Marvel downdraft carburetors still retained the cork float; although every other automobile carburetor manufacturer had discontinued the use of cork floats several years earlier. To my knowledge, no one has ever produce a brass float for the downdraft Marvel (although Standard Hygrade did produce bra
  9. The so-called "5 ball Kingston" is actually a Kingston model E. The Kingston Model E was produced in nine (9) different flange sizes, as well as several (don't remember the exact number) of pipe sizes (pipe threads were used instead of a mounting flange). There was even a dual fuel (10 ball) version of the model E. The dual fuel had 2 float bowls (one for kerosene, the other for gasoline). Pretty difficult to exactly identify one of these strictly from pictures. This one does at least resemble the 1909 Model T Ford; but it resembles many others as well. The center to center bolt spacing will n
  10. Kingston made carburetors from about 1900 up through about WWII. Early in their existance, they sold to a few car manufacturers (the Ford model T is the best known). However, they had more marine, industrial, and tractor customers that passenger car. Lots of different models of Kingston. Jon.
  11. THE CARBURETOR SHOP / Stromberg updraft carburetors Dodge NEVER used a Stromberg U-1 as standard equipment. The Stromberg Master Carburetor listings shows a Stromberg U-1 offered as an aftermarket replacement for the "Fast Four" in 1927 only. The U-1 is an S.A.E. size 1 (1 inch) carburetor. The U-2 is an S.A.E. size 2 (1 1/4 inch) carburetor. The two are not interchangeable. Ebay seller descriptions occasionally are less than accurate. Jon.
  12. Carter produced approximately 200 different carburetors with brass bowls. Going from memory, there are 23 different TYPES or MODELS. The RT-08 is one of the types or models. There are several different "tag" numbered RT-08 units. The 1931 Chevrolet was tag 150s, model RJH-08 (or if manufactured by Chevrolet model C-RJH-08). Good luck on finding an RT-08 with tag. The original tags were red cardboard. There are at least two different brass bowls which appear alike in pictures, but are not interchangable. Dodge used both the RT-08 and DRT-08 types. Jon.
  13. The Zenith would not be original, although it MIGHT be a better carb than the original. Zenith from 1935~1980 had a round tag about the size of a dime riveted to the carburetor. Zenith from about 1980 and newer have a stamped number in a semi-circle. The numbers are tiny. The height of the numbers is about the width of the lead in a number 2 lead pencil. The entire number can be covered by a garden pea. Before about 1935, you just have to know. Identification is exceptionally difficult, and probably exceeds the value of the carburetor. Jon.
  14. The idle mixture control screws (2 of them) should each be out approximately 1 to 1 1/4 turns from lightly seated. The curb idle screw (only one, which rotates the throttle plates) should be out only enough to give the proper idle RPM. This screw out more than one turn would have the throttle plates sufficiently open to effectively remove the idle circuit, and force the carburetor to operate on the main metering circuit. Jon.
  15. From May 1938 through June 1956, General Motors published monthly a magazine for GM employees called "G. M. Folks". I would have thought the circulation would have been in the hundreds of thousands, and probably about the same number were trashed after the employees looked to see if their picture was in that months magazine. These were anywhere from 16 to 28 pages, and were the size of "Look" or "Life" magazines. I have been collecting these for years, and now am close (within a dozen) of having a complete set in my library. Also need to upgrade a few. I have hundreds of duplicates available f
  16. Ed - a comment on your post. The "coding" as you posted is correct maybe 95 percent of the time, but should be used AS A GUIDE ONLY!!! For accurate results, ALWAYS look up the number in a Rochester database. No offense meant, simply trying to make these forums as accurate as possible. I posted the above information in club magazine articles as early as 1975, with the 95 percent caviat. Somehow, over the years, the 95 percent caviat is often dropped. Jon.
  17. Here is the website: http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Carburetor_ID.htm The 7033744 number is a "casting" number, NOT a carburetor identification number; it is impossible to identify a Rochester carburetor from the castings numbers alone. As to which one will work the best??? Hard to tell. The original 1967 carbs (if you in fact have one), had a design problem, that if repaired when the carb is rebuild, gives no problems; BUT IF MUST BE ADDRESSED WHEN REBUILDING. The later carb is designed for smog emissions, and if not modified, would not work as well as the original. However, the design of t
  18. Michael - the carbs with the bronze bowls have a flat aluminum cap. They don't really complete seal. The better kits come with a new cap. Kits are less expensive than carburetors. Jon.
  19. Taking the above 1 step further for your specific vehicle: In 1965 Oldsmobile used 9 DIFFERENT 4-barrel carburetors and 11 different 2-barrel carburetors. Just looking at the 4-barrel carburetors, the best commercial rebuilders "group" the 9 different 4 barrel carbs into only 2 groups. These they build to their own specification (which is never the same as any original specification). Some of the less expensive commercial rebuilders have only 2 groups of 4-barrels from 1959 to 1965!!! Will a 1959 carburetor work on your 1965? Probably. Will it work as well as a properly calibrated original as
  20. I would like to add slightly to Joe's excellent answer. First, I would like to suggest that the most overused term in our hobby is "rare"; followed by "classic" and "numbers-matching". But as to there being no numbers to match prior to 1968, I must respectfully disagree. As Joe points out, a vehicle is produced with certain parts, many of which carry either a casting number or a date code or both. And while, again as pointed out by Joe, it is impossible to prove that a specific part is ORIGINAL to a vehicle; it may be proved that a part is CORRECT as far as production for that vehicle. Many ju
  21. We have sold several over the years. There are a few reasons to purchase a Fish carburetor: (A) You are restoring a NASCAR Hudson for show only ( You own a restaurant in NASCAR country, and decorate the walls with early NASCAR memorabilia © You own a NASCAR museum (D) You own a carburetor museum (E) You are writing for "Urban Legends" and want one for a picture. Note that "performance" and "mileage improvements" are not on our list of reasons to buy the carburetor. My mentor did a 1000 mile test of a Fish M-1 on a early 1960's Ford 6. The test was virtually impossible to complete due to drivea
  22. Rusty - you have no email address. Jon.
  23. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The Accelerator pump has a "piston" made of brass disks with one larger/thinner brass "washer" at the bottom to help make a seal. </div></div> Bryan - the washer at the bottom of the pump should be SMALLER in diameter than the thick brass plunger. Its purpose is only to provide a "bottom" for the plunger, not to effect a seal. If this washer is larger in diameter than the plunger, the pump assembly will stick. Jon.
  24. Call me during normal telephone hours (see bio) and I will supply you with a telephone number to contact. Jon.
  25. carbking

    Carter WCD INFO

    If still on the carburetor, the identification number is located on a triangular brass tag (approximately a 1 inch triangle) which is located under one of the screws holding the top cover (air horn) to the center section (bowl) of the carburetor. Depending on the age of the carburetor, the number will be either 3 or 4 digits, followed by the letter "S" as in (S)am. The "S" may or may not be followed by a second letter (which depicts engineering change status). If the tag is missing, the carburetor can still be identified, but with difficulty. Jon.
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