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You could try the Willys Overland Knight Registry (WOKR) for contacts / leads. As to online parts, see the picture attached of my Dad's 28 Whippet Cabriolet that he restored. The 27 and 28's were similar in style.
This car was left abandoned on a beach on Lake Erie in Canada and most would have junked it. Parts came from one coast to the other and this was before the internet! Patience and time is the word as it is not a Ford or Chev with repo parts out there.
As others have asked post a picture of what you have and will help with identification. If your rad is rounded like mine you have a model 96 but if the rad is flat it will be the larger Whippet model 98.
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I know this is NOT the same era or style as your potential Gas Station but wanted to show what Port Huron, Michigan decided to do with an abandoned station several years ago. They restored this building to age appropriate condition including the gasoline pumps (which are on a metal rolling base that goes inside every night at closing). It was their Tourist Information Building just on the edge of Town.
If it was not for the two modern cars in the frame my 58 Buick Special would look to be in 1958? and ready to be filled up.
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Not trying to high jack your thread but I was at a Charity Car Show in Utica, Michigan Sunday (the old Packard Proving Grounds) and thought of you and your project.
Saw this Divco Milk Truck and while not as old as yours was still a great reminder of a time gone by. It was amazing to listen to the few kids there ask, what was that white stuff in those glass bottles?
Heck, I'm just old enough to remember the horse drawn milk wagons from the late 50's here in Canada let alone when milk was delivered to your home in glass bottles.
This was a great restoration. Thanks for your efforts keeping history alive!
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Hi,
Yes but....... unfortunately the local yards here have cleared out the old stuff as we have two metal recyclers here in the city and with metal up again alas you can't find 60's, 70's or early 80's stuff anymore. Sad for sure but know someone has a lead out there.
If anyone has a lead please let me know as this fellow is dealing with cancer and it would be super for him to enjoy this car soon.
Thanks.
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Looking for a front brake drum for a 1960 Chrysler
Not for me but a fellow car enthusiast. His is cracked (fatigued) and is holding up enjoying the car.
You can email me at cinddoug@mnsi.net with pricing.
Thanks, Doug.
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Well, yesterday was the official day to finish the paperwork on the cars. A monumental day for both of us as I was 12 when Dad bought the Overland and after that first ride was hooked on antique cars. He is thrilled that he does not have to worry what to do with them had I not been interested in them.
Here in Ontario our Government requires Safety Checks (a good thing) and Emissions Testing on cars 1987 and newer (a controversial / money grab in my mind but...) and the young lady after looking at all the paperwork of three cars asked where the E Test papers were? I tried to politely ask if she even read the dates of the cars before she asked and then her eyes opened up really wide and said What is an Overland???? Fun stuff educating some people about cars.
Another funny moment with the process was asking my mechanic to perform the Safety Checks. While he was familiar with the Nash, the Overland and the Whippet he had never seen. In order to qualify the paperwork he decided to come over to my garage to look at them and said, I have one question, do they run? After saying Oh Yes, he sat in the seats, tried the brakes, pushed in the clutches shifting through the gears (with nothing running) and said, All OK. Can't wait to run up to his garage one Friday and take him out for a ride! Said he might just have to make a photo copy of the Overland papers, frame it and hang it on the wall as it is the Oldest car he has done a Safety on yet!
Anyway, all and all a good day!
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Thanks John,
Just spent an Hour with Dad trying to locate what he say's he has, a chassis service manual for the Overland but..... almost like looking for a needle in a hay stack., car literature EVERYWHERE!
Haven't had the heart to tell him what has happened yet.
Have contacted a few in the Willys Overland Knight Registry (WOKR) and waiting for a reply, need to spend more time on the Google search and will post a HELP on the AACA once I take a better picture(s) and remove the bar involved.
With Dad having turned 87 on the 4th and turning over ownership to me this month, it is my wish to take him and the Overland to the Orphan Car Show in Ypsilanti, Michigan this September. They have a drive / pass review that would thrill me to have him in the car.
Thanks for your suggestions. Any other help greatly appreciated, Doug.
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My rear bumper rechroming is on a 58 Buick Special (4 of 5 pieces involved). I used Cambridge Custom Chrome here in Ontario Canada 8 years ago. Total bill was 1100 Canadian back then. The problem I had was the ends. When I questioned the few concave areas being somewhat dull and wanted them redone, the reply was, "Oh you did not specify Show Chrome". What? They redid them without charge but...... still not as shiny (polished) as the outer surfaces.
Due to the fact I need to redo the whole car have the parts still wrapped in dry storage and might eventually have to have them done again with possibly loosing some more of the detail.
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Would John have an email address. If so would you PM me? Thanks
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You are right about what how some "do the cheap disguise" AND WITH THAT SHINY SOOTH PAINT pass it off as restored or FIXED properly.
Can't wait till I redo the body on my 58 Buick Special and find what is below the paint! Have owned this for 30 plus years and if you look close at the door can now see the tell tale signs are there.
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Unimogjohn,
Your explanation seems right since today a fellow antique car owner (Star and Durant's) said something similar. What is a mystery is where is the end that broke off ?!?!
The next question is...... where do I get a part to repair / replace this to get her back on the road safely?
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OK, have a few pictures of my problem. Hope some one can help.
One photo is of the steering end down on the floor showing the broken end that attached to the wheel. The other is at the wheel where it went through the hole. Can't find any bolt end of the broken piece if indeed that is how it is attached. Just know it was a distinct metal snapping sound when it broke.
Is this bar all one piece? Any leads as to parts?
Appreciate any advise, Doug.
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Thanks for the comments and......... let the fun begin.
Went to the garage last night late to pump up a tire on the Overland and tried to turn the tires by the steering wheel and .......... snap! The rod from the gear box to the passenger side wheel broke at the wheel. Thankfully it was in the garage and not on the Road! I need to go back tomorrow and take a good look at what exactly broke before I head off to the Wills Overland Dealership. (ya right)
Will be needing some help as to parts once I figure out what I need so...... will post pics later.
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Well, the time has come.
My father has decided that he will gift me his PRIDE AND JOY'S due to soon loosing his drivers license at the age of 87.
Three cars are involved:
1920 Willys Overland Model 4 Touring, 1928 Willys Overland Whippet Cabriolet Coupe and 1951 Nash Canadian Statesman 4 dr.
I was 12 when he bought the Overland in 1967 which was a running car but he decided to rebuild the motor, and 14 when he bought the Whippet as a project car (which took 28 years to restore) and 15 when he bought the Nash from a co-worker with original paint and upholstery.
Today:
The Overland has it's original leather uphostery (really worn but original) and an older body repaint (1959) but new top and repainted fenders.
The Whippet has a body off restoration (amature but truly showable) with parts aquired from the East Coast to the West Coast both Canada and US including an NOS Gas Tank (a rare find in the factory box).
The Nash is an ORIGINAL, Dad bought from the second owner. It has 85% of the original paint, has seen only 1 use in a Canadian Winter (all documented), the original uphostery and other than a valve job at 50,00 miles and soon to be replaced U-joint all original drive train. It currently is about to turn over 100,000 miles.
I have over the years saved my cars that are special to me (all four, 1958 Buick's) but growing up with Dads cars and learning to drive stick shift on them has had that special thing that happens with cars. They may not be the Barret Jackson high dollar cars and highly collectible cars but they become the personal, memory kind of car that the average guy thinks about and wishes he was able to have, so....... Thanks DAD for the gifts.
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Hi,
Having a 1920 Overland Model 4 not sure you would want to use a 12V garden tractor or motor cycle battery on a 6 volt system. No expert here but what about the amp meter and amps on the headlights? I have boosted a dead 6v battery with a 12v occasionally just to get it started but never left it on when started so...... just giving you something to consider.
I'm in Canada but a 6v battery is still available at farm supply places and not that expensive (about 95 bucks as of last year).
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Can anyone help? Tried to move what is becoming my car gifted from my 87 year old Dad today and when I tried to turn the steering wheel I heard a crack and the wheel suddenly moved freely! Thank heavens it happened in the garage and not on the road! Dad has owned this car since 1967 and we both have driven it to events locally until 2007. It has been sitting since but...... WOW!
It looks like the main steering rod from the gear box has broken at the passenger wheel. Because it was late I did not get into it further but....... any Overland people out there that are familiar with this or can sugget sources for parts? I have emailed a few Willys Overland Knight Registry people that Dad has been a member of but any help / suggestions would greatly be appreciated.
Will try and post a pic of the car with Dad and his 1928 Whippet from 2006.
Thanks for any advise, Doug
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Found but not recovered unfortunately.
I live in Windsor, Ontario Canada right across from Detroit and was driving my Dad's 1958 Buick Limited 2dr as an everyday driver at the age of 17.
We have a metal recycler here that the yard is visible from one of our main roads. The pile of vehicles to be shreded was about 12 or so high and what do I spot at the very top? One black '58 Buick LIMITED CONVERTIBLE! Did a U turn and parked on the shoulder to to make sure it wasn't a mirage.
The crime of it was that it had a beautiful back bumper and side chrome quarters which we needed on ours let alone the fact it was the low production convertible (839 produced) !!!!!! We did everything short of getting a lawyer to get that car or parts but......... do to the fact this yard was a bonded yard, bringing cars in from the States to be scraped, the Government red tape was too much to save it.
I watched that car for almost three months before it finally disappeared. Did save Dad's limited for a parts car as it was well worn before I got it and found another almost identical one in much better shape but......... almost still brings a tear to my eyes when I think about that convert.
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I'd like to know if any one can help with some info on a kit I received today.
It is a PACCO Carburetor Tune-up Kit E-11124X for Buick 1957-58 Early.
What I'd like to know is what carb it might be for as it is currently in a sealed plastic package with instructions. Before I open it up was hoping to see if it will fit one of my 58's (Carter 2bl or Rochester 4bl). The gasket set package has a number printed on it 400-22 otherwise the remainder small packs are flipped over so I can't see more info.
There is a Notice Special Instructions small sheet that says the Pump Plunger is made of leather and requires soaking in gasoline or kerosene for 10 minutes before assembly and immediate use.
Anyone familiar with these? Just thought if it was not for my app that I would leave it sealed and sell it to someone that it would work for.
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Curious, states new, purchased here or...... what year.
Where are you located?
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Just picked up my order yesterday from Classic Buicks and wanted to say thanks once again for responding to my post. Now all my 58's will have new pedals and be looking good in that regard.
It has been stated before but deserves to be said again, this is why being a BCA Member is a great thing and can always find someone to help you out somehow! Now I can drive with some confidence this year.
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I have used SS on my 58 Buick and my 78 Chev 4X4 when I used that for snow plowing. Bought these sets from a company called In Line Tube (Michigan). They come complete and pre-bent with all fittings (other than the T block). Admittedly there was some tweaking to get one or two lines to fit but generally was happy that I was able to do it myself. They are pricey for sure but I felt it was worth the investment & piece of mind to not worry about the steel lines rusting at some point. Do it once, do it right and drive with confidence.
One might argue SS is not original and not sure how that goes when being judged. My cars are drivers and just not concerned about judging so........ this works for me.
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Let it Snow, Let it Snow.............
Last Thursday was working outside here in Windsor, Ontario, Canada with my sweater on (about 50 degrees).
Yesterday and today fully dressed (cover hauls & boots) snow blowing customer driveways! Temps - 26 degrees.
Just received parts for the Buick. No heat in the garage. Oh my! What happened to that rodent`s prediction?
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All three of my offspring have/ are driving Chevrolet S-10 pickups with a 4 cylinder engine so they can not go out racing crazy. The youngest even has a 5 speed manual.
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Larry Schramm
Good for yoiu Larry! That is the exact reason I got Dad's Limited!!! He was not going to let me drive around like my buddy's in some hopped up Chevy and terrorize the neighbour hood!
The 58 Buick's in the early 70's were a bit old school for sure but I dared to be different then (as now according to my wife).
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Did not drive the same car my Dad did as his was a 1926 Model T roadster which he sold a long time ago. He is soon to be 87 and an antique car owner today and always said he wished he still had that 'T'.
Me on the other hand still have two of my High School cars and the picture is of the second taken a few years ago in Port Huron, Michigan at their restored local Gas Station they turned into a Tourist Information Office. This one is a 1958 Buick Special convertible. My other is a 1958 Buick Limited 2dr that Dad gave me in 1970. Drove both (at different times naturally) to school and because of limited parking got called down to the office when I somehow parked in the Vice principals spot (DDhooo!).
The Special is currently up on stands needing a complete brake job. I have all the parts but with no heat and recently getting hit with 12 inches of snow this Sunday will be waiting till spring to get back on the road.
Happy Motoring Everyone!
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Some of you got 3 e-mailings? I believe I only received 1 and also figured it was shelved or being tweaked or..........
I receive an electronic (beautiful) copy from the NASH Club and one from my local car club here which I know saves money because of the membership that opted for the electronic version.
With the Canadian dollar at par, just send me the electronic version and drop the membership rate back to the US rate and I'd be a happy camper. Not complaining just saying....