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Sorry I don't know how to access the horn wire to replace it as mine were in good shape. The only thing I had to do was make an insulating gasket at the top of the wire as mine had melted some and would make contact blowing the horn some times.
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Great idea sir.
You have given me a thought as what to do with mine.
I'm presuming those screw heads are not too tall giving you lot's of clearance?
Come back and let us know how it turns out (no pun intended) once completely assembled please.
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I realise my thread is supposed to be about my 1958 Buick's and have drifted to other cars and things but this was so surprising to me that I just have to post it.
As mentioned above I met Mark Schneider at the Car Show with Gary (cxgvd) and the discussion turned to other cars we owned. He felt he had known my 1920 Overland back in the late 50's and thought he had pictures.
I sent him a few of what I have and he sent some of what he has and it sure looks to be the same car!
Sure wish Dad was here to see this...
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As stated above much has been happening personally and decided to step back and attend our Clubs return to Fun on Wheels Car Show this Labour Day Weekend.
My motivation was to go and see Gary (cxgvd) and his beautiful McLaughlin Touring.
Boy is it something to see in person!
He came with two other brass Model T's as a group and I was introduced and invited to sit and chat.
Well...
Doesn't Mark (the owner of the beautifully restored T you see) ask about what cars I have and when I mentioned the 1920 Overland doesn't he say that he knows the car! He thinks he knew an owner of her long before Dad bought it and actually remembers having rode in the back seat. Said he is quite sure he has pictures of her and we are going to connect to share those. What a small world!
I didn't get around to see much of the cars dealing with a mobility issue but my friend and a committee member said there were officially 630 cars registered and know Club members that came but didn't bother to register so figuring it as a successful show on the whole. The last show was two years ago (due to covid) and apparently they only had less than two hundred cars come.
With a whole new Board there are a few things that will need tweaking but that's part of the learning curve for them.
A friend came all the way from Barrie Ontario in his 1995 Cougar capturing the long distance award. A very nice car reminding me of my Cougar I sold...
All too soon the day whisked by and once the awards were given and the 50/50 was drawn (1400 each way) cars started to leave.
That's Mark in his Motel T capturing the Oldest Car at the show award.
She purred like a kitten.
Not too far behind came Gary in the McLaughlin also purring along nicely.
I actually picked a good spot to see and hear the action.
It's really nice to see Antique Cars restored or otherwise in this day and age of modified big block stuff.... I mean, this is where it all began and should be preserved for history sake.
On the way back to my truck I found this Pontiac woody wagon most interesting with it's flat head straight 8. I bet one could take an old nickle and place it on end where it would stay while idling so smoothly like it did. I've seen that done on a Packard once.
Arrived home soon enough to capture a short nap and glad the day was rain free and attendance was great for the Club.
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On 9/1/2021 at 9:05 PM, EmTee said:
Did it overheat badly in the past?
Meant to answer your question before now but life is getting in the way some again...
To my knowledge the Nash never over heated and know the gauge works showing it in the normal range after warming up.
I've heard several opinions about my situation but clearly going to need gaskets, have the head checked, look carefully at the block and rebuild the carb so putting her away for the winter is the plan and get back at her next year.
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22 hours ago, old-tank said:
Not a big deal to pull the cylinder head on a flat-head. Inspect and throw a new gasket on and move on. Nothing good happens in storage.
I agree with you old-tank that nothing gets done while in storage but my circumstances are such right now that issues are taking precedent over the fix so getting her in under cover is the best solution right now.
It's not like I'm under any pressure to sell her so another winter with a fresh approach next spring should be better for me.
Besides, it will give me time to gather the gaskets and such to not just slap her back together. Checking the head for any warpage should prove interesting...
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Looking forward to seeing you & Bev and the car next weekend even if it isn't with the Nash.
I might hitch a ride with my buddy Joe who is involved with the new executive and this car show again hoping to bring it back to the level it was quite a few years ago.
Keeping fingers crossed for a good weather day which will make the Buick show nicely!
Till then,
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Thanks Joe & Gary!
My son seems to think he can help me but wants to pull the motor to work on it and inspect the main bearings and... That's the kind of thinking one gets from a master of engineering grad when he has all the tools and equipment at his disposal at work I guess. Love him for the thought but I'm going with Gary & Joe's idea to drag her out to storage for now after I drain the rad, change the oil and after blowing out the carb, take all the plugs out, will turn her over on the starter to ensure the new oil will coat those pistons and cylinder walls before putting in new plugs and parking her for the winter.
Just might be able to get the Special out yet before the season ends....
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On 8/19/2021 at 11:27 AM, 95Cardinal said:
Another project.
Like Larry always says: Drive it, break it, fix it, repeat.
I managed to get the first two of this quote down so far.....
Between the crazy heat (humidex over 100 degrees) and some issues with mom the Nash has been left sitting in the driveway till this weekend. Not particularly fun working on a black car under the hood with a tired back.
Disappointedly I've diagnosed the problem to a likely blown head gasket which somewhat explains the puff of white smoke coming out the exhaust just before I pulled into the weekly cruise that evening. Of course it could be even worse with maybe a cracked head but only removal will tell on that.
It's disappointing to be here as she was running so nicely till then. Trying to decide once again how to proceed as with no garage to work in and time right now being sparse the only other option is to take her out to storage (again) till things are more organised around here at home. It will definitely come off the market as no one is interested in a non running car...
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1 hour ago, lancemb said:
Hi Doug, I didn't realize there was a significant casting difference and was going to order a set. Would you be able to post a comparison picture? I will probably take you up on a few even if I buy new ones, because I wouldn't put the new ones in until I get it painted down the road since these pegs break so easily and I don't want to take them off again.
OK Lance here you go.
Right off let me say I bought these many years ago and have had them in a wrapped box all this time. If they are using the same molds now the slight differences could likely still be there.
The first thing you will notice is the thickness of the new one on the left.
The other is that it likely was done to accommodate the screw stud which replaces the very thin post the twist nut goes onto of the original. Obviously the pot metal gets brittle over time anyway but the fact it is exposed to the inner fender with road dirt, snow and wet doesn't help with their survival and break usually when trying to take that twist plate off.
The other thing is the ends have a slightly different curve than the original but... having said all that, it really is nit picking (IMHO) when these are like hens teeth to locate 30 original good ones.
I feel with a set of new ones on most of the general public wouldn't know any difference.
Of course, a true Limited guy would likely be able to tell...
Let me know how many you need and I'll see what I can do for you.
The one pictured here has one end stud broken off but suppose you could put it on using a good adhesive or silicone. The surface chrome on it is very presentable and will have to look in the trim drawer to see what else others might be in similar condition. (I never throw anything out....)
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Just how many are missing Lance?
I might be able to help too as I have a few that might pass muster for you.
I bought the complete set years ago for my Limited knowing they are not 100% correct due to being cast thicker than the originals but still going to use them anyway.
Let me know and I'll shoot you some pictuers.
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Went to a weekly car show out on the east end last night with all the confidence in the world and just as I rounded onto the driveway doesn't the Nash give a cough, a puff of blue smoke and stall...
Was able to coast into the parking area and decided to head to the patio to wait for my friend for supper and deal with the Nash after things cooled down.
Dinner was a slow ordeal to say the least (not likely to order again) and we went out to attempt to figure what was the problem. With a small crowd of car guys looking on I suspected the float again and or dirt in the carb / jets as she just seemed to not be getting enough fuel.
Rather than stress the new battery any more called Hagerty Roadside Service who managed to get there in about 15 minutes to bring her home so I can go through things at my leisure.
Now is a good time to order plugs, carb kit, fuel filter, check wires and points carefully to see if I can get her running again over the weekend.
Been very lucky so far with the old girl but knew it might not last.
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It's been a busy few days "playing" with the car. Wish it was with the Special but for now enjoying having the Nash driveable and showing her off after the long hiatus.
Quick story, I needed to renew the license sticker so gathered the paperwork and when I got to the counter the girl asked if I wanted one year or the two year sticker? Told her just one as I had the car up for sale so one would be fine. I had to ask her what she had said regarding the cost because I thought I heard it wrong.
Dad had put Historic plates on it as far back as 1982 and I read that the cost was only 18/year. She said I owed her $7.50 till my birthday which she explained, because it had not been licensed since 2013 I only had to pay from now till my birthday. Surprise! Win, Win.
So this past Friday 13th was the City Cruise-In event and after washing up the half buried tires (due to the body design) my wife and I took off to the all day event meeting up with friends first to be able to go in and park together. Apparently there were 650 registered at no cost to control parking and the lot was opened at 1 pm till whenever everyone left for the night.
It was a perfect day, not too hot, no rain in sight and the Nash is performing better every time she is out.
We picked a good spot at the end of the row and set up the tent for some shade. Not our first time at car shows you know.
All afternoon we had people around the car asking what kind it was and a few seemed interested in talking about what I was asking for her.
One fun conversation was with a group of young fellows obviously from Central America, they were quite intrigued with the car asking very politely if it was a Government Limousine? They found it fascinating that it was really just a working man's everyday car for it's time being too young to have an idea of the era it was built in here in North America.
We had brought lunch with us and had extra to share (knowing the group - haha) so sat watching the cars come and go out to have a cruise Downtown with most coming back to socialise for a bit.
That made walking around to get a close view of different cars mandatory and keep the legs from getting stiffened up.
The event was open to all makes and years and it was good to see Jim had brought his '28 Velie he restored over 20 years ago now.
Naturally there were a few Buicks...
Like this Wildcat in beautiful condition. That was the owner sitting at the rear.
My friend has his Corvette almost completed and brought it in to show off the recent paint job. Told him I was at the New Car Show held at Cobo Hall in 1971 and sat in an identical coloured Vette like his falling in love with it immediately! Told me he might let me drive it when things were finished....
All in all a nice relaxing day and with the lot slowly clearing out, packed things up and decided to head on home dealing with the Downtown congested traffic and full sidewalk bars/cafes.
Boy, driving a clutch has it's fun moments...
The final capping on the day was getting a phone call from a man that had come to look at the Nash. Our conversation at the show was OK and he left saying he'd like to think about it more. Fine, no issues and then just before leaving he called to ask just how firm was I on the price?
I won't go into details but Not having sold many vehicles in my life kinda had a gut feeling this would have been a low buy offer, play with it a bit and then flip her so said I was going to be firm on the price. He still offered something but... I'm not going to give her away. She is just to unique today if someone wants something different than the usual F##$ or C@@@ stuff. (no offence meant there gang)
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Grabbed one of the old wheel cylinders from the box and shot a couple of pictures as after calling around only one store saw a cross reference with a Chevy tuck but only for the rears.
Not sure if this is a front or rear but was told to bring in what I have and see if they can match up something.
I'd like to have them to at least say to a prospective buyer, "There you go, you can put them on yourself or have your mechanic do them".
Simplifies any one that questions if parts are available.
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Well that's just, I'll go ahead and say it, Crazy Money!
Has labour and materials gone up that much when they already have the molds???
And I thought 1,000.00 was nuts for five 30x3 1/2 tires and tubes for my Overland... 😒
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I'll bet that show is at the Village down here right Gary?
I hope to see you, Bev and the car there!
It's their first car show this year and with a new Executive doing their best to start having events as things have opened up. We all hope new leaders and new ideas can make the transition.
Keep your fingers crossed for good weather.
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I have to think about doing the front wheel cylinders as she pulls ever so slightly left under hard braking otherwise handles fine which as you say Lance should aide a sale.
I found a box of used wheel cylinders in the stash and a note saying that they cross referenced to a Chev pickup which I vaguely remembered. Any on line parts suppliers show wheel cylinders but they do not have the adjusting metal ends instead of the rubber caps so will have to find a counter man who can do more than look on a computer...
My ad has reached 408 views and the few offers are waaay low with one guy sighting a rare parts supply...
Not going to give her away for the sake of no garage storage at home! Another winter sitting out with the Roadmaster shouldn't do her any harm...
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Finally have the family 1951 Nash Canadian Statesman on the road again.
Dad bought it from the second owner back in 1968 and kept in out the winter driving till he gave it to me in 2011 deciding to give up his license.
We used it till developing some serious noise in the rear end and parked her till last year when I lost the storage she was at having sold the property.
I sent it to RM Restorations last December 2020 where they took their time and found the carrier bearings were totally shot. Little wonder why as the speedometer shows 97,000 miles...
They finished it in March 2021 and I had her trucked home to finesse a few things and then drove her out to a fellows where my Special was till this month.
Drove her home last Thursday with no issues finding light sockets needed cleaning up for better contact and spent the evenings polishing and waxing the original paint up.
Yes that is correct, this car was purchased new at the Toronto, Ontario production Plant, driven the first winter when the owner decided he liked it so much he bought a winter beater and she never saw snow for the next 10 years.
He decided to sell her as he didn't use it as much as he felt he should. The man that bought was a co-worker of Dad's and knew of his likes for antique and of beat cars & decided to sell it to him.
Dad tried to flat tow his beloved 1920 Overland with it to Niagara Falls one year and while she did the job, the little flathead six was put to task (not doing any harm but back roads were the norm for this setup).
Move to today, With a new fuel line, fuel pump, carb adjustment and fresh gas, tonight we drove her to her first Cruise-in since 2011.
Sadly the threat of more rain curtailed many from coming out but this Friday there is a big show on the Waterfront which should gather over 1,000 cars for the day.
This is the only Canadian Statesman I know of in Southwestern Ontario to London. She should gather some interest especially being mostly original condition including interior.
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With a sudden downpour this afternoon it looked like the Monday night Cruise-in was going to be a wash out! Crazy amount of water literally stopping traffic for about 10 minutes...
Headed home after things let up, checked the radar and saw that this front was going to pass on by so told Cindy we were going to take a chance and see who turns up.
Naturally the cream puffs weren't there but 14 of us came out but it wasn't like it usually is.
None the less I had a small crowd around looking the Nash over answering questions and getting a few thumbs up.
It surely didn't hurt my ego.
Clouds were gathering to the south so several took off and we stayed saying that the car would not melt if it got wet again.
My buddy surprised me being there with his Riv braving the possible rain as he wanted to show off his new to him rims he just put on. I think with that deep black cherry paint they look great!
We stayed till the very last car left and drove over to our sons to say a quick hello as he had flew in from Arizona on a weeks work of testing the new Chrysler products there in the heat and altitudes.
Friday looks to be a better day as the Downtown Business Association is sponsoring the Ouellette Cruise from 1 pm till 12 PM with entertainment so there will be a large crowd coming and going all day. Going to make up some signs with info and contact #'s and see what happens.
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With a full day of contract window cleaning I didn't figure would come back, had to hold off playing with the Nash till after supper again tonight.
I grabbed my metal polish and started around the back shinning up the tailing housings and cleaning up the stainless trim. Managed to clean/wax some of the paint and then turned my attention to the license plate.
Dad had bolted a 1951 plate to the bottom of the every day Historic Plate for people to stop asking what year it was but sadly it had been on there so long the white background was badly faded/rusting so I took it off and placed it in the trunk.
Remembering I had a chrome licence bracket in the Caddy that wouldn't work on her I decided to put it on the Nash for a little extra bling.
Once the plate was off the bracket it was obvious Dad had never cleaned behind it and things needed some scrubbing. I figure he plated it as Historic about 1990 or so...
With the second plate hanging so low I really had to work on the bumper to get it cleaned up nicely.
Eventually I will take off the actual plate bracket, sand then paint it to lessen rust migrating down.
Fortunately the original enamel black paint came back like the top sides with the cleaner/wax I use.
Once again lost track of time and the mosquitoes had a little more taste of Doug but happy to get a little more accomplished before taking her out on Monday evening to Brews & Cues for her long over due debut.
If the sticker on the plate is correct, the last time she was shown around here was 2010. I know a few that will be surprised to see her.
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An update on the Nash:
Friday I took some time away from work in the afternoon and asked my wife to drive me out to bring the Nash home.
I reasoned I had some room now the van was gone...
Once there I checked the master cylinder and put in ever so little just to ensure it was full, tested the pedal and found it solid so bid Fred thanks for the storage and fired her up. As I pulled out he said to me he was going to miss seeing her there since he really likes it. I replied that this would be his last chance to own it if we could agree on a price.
He hesitated for just a second and said, "No, I've got too many now at my age".
Off we went, me in the lead taking the back two lane side roads but had to do a short stint on the main one till connecting to another series of side roads.
When we got home I asked just how fast I was driving as the speedometer cable is disconnected and my wife replied I was doing between 80 & 90 kms. That's approx 50 to 55 mph and she didn't feel like I was pushing her and the temp gauge was steady in the middle as I remembered it.
I could hardly finish supper fast enough to be back outside to spruce her up and take inventory in the trunk.
Before too long the mosquitoes were out as I had lost track of time and had most of the car wiped down of the dust that didn't blow off.
Happy she was home I locked up and slept like a baby. 🤗
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7 hours ago, Buicknutty said:
That '56 Century was a lovely car at one time. Perhaps it was even driven in there.
Truer words have not likely been said Keith.
I'll be sure and ask Koni next time I'm there as he knows the stories on every piece of equipment he has there.
Shoot, he at one time had a small ferris wheel, unfortunately visible from the road, that he actually got running and gave his kids and some of the children around his place rides till the County Officials came around... He thought he'd be OK being on private farm land not charging anything but he was forced to have it inspected and certified or dismantle the whole thing. It's been gone for a long time and don't know where it went but should ask.
What can I say, he's quite the individual, always fun to engage.
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Thanks so much. It felt really good to finally post something positive for a change.
Now, if this pandemic will get under control and allow the border to open I would love to make a trip over and get that engine you have been storing for me all this time Joe!
Who could have predicted this roller coaster ride we've all been on?
Of course having a long over due lunch with both you and Jim would make that day feel like getting back to normal again too.
I very much look forward to that day... Hope you are all well.
Doug
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Had the best day in the last 18 months today!!
1 st - Our young contractor started laying the tile on the floor in our basement bathroom which is going to make the wife happy. That old saying right, Happy wife, happy life...
2 nd - I got a bit of lawn work completed before I went out to where the Nash & Special have been stored since March. I brought supplies to clean up the floor that the owner said the Special had marked her spot and was surprised to see some transmission fluid along with a bit of black oil on the floor after pushing her back about the end of the torque tube bolting to the differential. While cleaning it up with old rags and some thinners trying not to remove any concrete paint figure it might be the accumulated tranny fluid escaping before I replaced the transmission with the rebuilt unit and didn't pull the plug (if there even is one) on the back torque tube. When I bring her home later will jack it up and check for a plug or drill one in to let it drain out to not ruin the u-joint or pinion seal as I have read about.
I've know 85 year old Fred since I was 18 and speaks his mind so figured it wasn't all as bad as he stated on the phone but made him quite happy to see me on my hands and knees wiping up the floor which got his approval. 😆
With new cardboard under the engine & transmission (which is not leaking and a large sheet of bubble plastic under the torque tube and axle, things should be fine for awhile till she gets home later.
The Nash behaved herself with only a couple of oil drips and he had it running for a fellow last weekend that seems very interested in it but we are not quite there on price just yet.
Every car needs a bit of TLC and we have talked bout this (being honest on my part) but will see just how interested he is when I go tomorrow and tell him it's coming back home to attend to the brakes and put a For Sale sign on her.
I really wish I didn't have to sell her but... no room at the Inn is my problem.
Come on Lottery numbers....
We shared lunch and talked about the good old days and the car guys that sadly have gone to greener pastures but laughed remembering the good times with old cars in general till it was time for me to go.
3 rd - I decided to go the long way home and stop into another long time car collector that again have known since I was a kid and heard he was "cleaning up" his country property.
Koni is a great guy and if he liked you would give you the shirt off his back. Everyone for miles around knows he liked old cars and often would just drive their old family car to his place and give it to him. Unfortunately he couldn't say no and most of them sat out in his fields around the buildings that are full of the "good cars" and as you can see, have deteriorated to the point of being sent to the scrap recyclers soon.
Like this Buick Hardtop...
Or this early Corvair...
His five kids are not interested in many of the cars so at a spry 84 he has decided to start the cleanup to not leave it for them to deal with. I'm guessing there is over 200 vehicles including a few big trucks and two motor homes and?? I thought I saw a wood cabin cruiser back there... I would have loved to stay and scout around longer but he said there were no '58 Buick cars or Nash stuff and just then I get a call on my cell from a man interested in buying our 2009 Dodge Caravan I had listed. Said he was waiting for his wife to finish work at 6 and would like to come tonight and test drive it if that was OK.
Sure I said and bid my farewell as it was 20 miles to home yet.
So to cap the day, they came with their two young children, liked what they saw and took everyone for a drive to comeback to ask if they could pay cash and buy it right then as is? I dropped the price to compensate for the cost of the Safety and after signing a receipt and the ownership (known as a Title to my Us Friends) off they went freeing up a spot in the driveway for the Nash when it comes home.
As stated at the beginning of this post, it was the best day in a long time and I gave a gracious thanks at our late evening dinner. 😇
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ME & MY === 1958 Buick, 1958 Buick, 1958 Buick and……..
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Where to start..........
I have not been posting much since the car show and have much to deal with personally now.
I don't wish this to be a pity party but have my 93 year old Mom in the rehab unit trying to get mobility back after falling and fracturing her left shoulder. Being her age and medical condition they would not do surgery so this is going to take a long time to heal.
Timing wise I have been ordered to retire as of September 9th for medical reasons I'd rather not go into but suffice it to say while waiting for further testing and results to come doing what I can to get some things done with the cars. My boys are offering to help as much as possible which means a lot! Like my youngest who is willing to take the Nash to his place and change out the head gasket on her etc.
Change is always in the wind but this one is going to be big...