Thanks for the advice guys. Talking to some people at hershey is a great idea, especially about pitfalls of each such as part availablity. I'm 5'9 so hopefully I'll be ok, with fitting into a car. I never really thought about oaklands, they are pretty neat looking. Mark, those studebakers really interest me, especially the 7 passenger one. That's about the price range I'm looking in, unfortunately I don't have the budget to go look at it. If I can find something in the 12-15K range that is fairly straight & dependable I would be happy. Do you guys think that's unrealistic? Thanks for all the reply's.