West Peterson

Nevermind. I just read down further and found a post already on this subject.

I'm getting ready to run an article in regards to modern oils "killing our old-car engines" because of the reduction of zinc dialkyl dithiophosphate (ZDDP). Apparently, it's the ZDDP that affects sliding and high-pressure (EP) friction to cams and tappets. ZDDP has been taken out because the phosphates reduce the effectiveness and it eventually damaged catalytic converters (plus emmitted pollutants). There has been a definit increase in failures, and several articles have been printed in specific publications for about a year now. Is anyone aware of any scientific rebuttle to this claim?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Way to go, Judy!!! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> (I'll gladly reimburse West for the $ .41 stamp.) </div></div> Actually, I can use a credit card. I have one that looks like the one in the upper left hand corner of this page. In fact, I've got to give Kim a call, cuz I do owe the Library some $$.

Kean Email or PM to me a specific list of what you need. Next time i get over to the Dayton Packard Museum Parts Department, I'll look around. I recognize a lot of 1930 parts as my father owns a 1930 model.

I agree that if everything is working "properly" (with the help of modern materials) vapor lock wouldn't happen. But I'm not sure i'd go so far as to say it's a myth.

Bringing this back to the top, as I'm still seeing "marquee" being used as an automotive term.

Yes. I'll keep the correct pump on the car, as I plan on using it 99.9% of the time. Thanks.

That is exactly what I was thinking, but wanted to find out if anyone else is doing that. My normal pump is new (or rebuilt), so I'm not too concerned of the diaphgram failing. Also, my car does not have any "heat sheilds." But, knowing that modern gas vaporizes faster, I was thinking my time would be better spent installing an electric fuel pump than a heat shield (which may not solve anything).

I am finding the need to install an electric fuel pump on my 1940 180. While I appreciate the "Seagraves" method versus installing in "series", I'm wondering if that is a little overkill for the manner in which I plan to use it... Cold starts where the car has sat for more than a week, and... on the occasional occasions when it starts to vapor lock. In both instances, I'd use it for just a few seconds. Any thoughts?

... the check's in the mail, Fran. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Whoah!!! MY BAD. Bill Parfet's car IS A SIX. I had photos of his Lozier mixed in the same folder as the Thomas. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

I applaud Art for taking the car, as that is the spirit in which the raffle was meant. In addition to accepting the car, Art drove the car to two or three different national meets and wrote a story about his travels with it in Antique Automobile. A true gentleman, and a true "car guy."

Pat Steve had nothing to do with the mistake(s). I take full blame.

I wonder if the Harrah collection still owns the Thomas to which you refer. All I can find is the Great Race car.

I notice there is a slight difference in the bend of the frame between Parfet's car and the original photo. Parfet's car also has a slightly different axle. The red car has the exact same axle and bend in the frame. However, the red car is a 1910 model, while Parfet's car is a 1909. Consequently, Parfet's car has the same fenders, while the 1910 model has the front lips (or whatever they're called). The "speedster", as I think Bob suggested earlier, may be a mixture. What a barn find that would be, though, I agree. Does anyone else think the driver looks a LOT like Jim Grundy?

Bob You are right about Simplex. I don't know why I thought that. I think that the car in the original photo has been repainted, and the radiator along with it. Attached is a red Thomas showing the front end. Kean, do you mind if I use the photo in the next issue of Antique Automobile?

Compare the profile of this 1909 model that i photographed a couple of years ago (Bill Parfet's car). Note the step plate near the rear fender, the wheels, fenders, and the round metal plate at the back of the side valance panel. Also, the hub caps appear to be identical.

And Thomas... Take a look at this, gang.

As did Palmer & Singer.

Matheson and Simplex both had sixes.

Wasn't there a major Packard meet last weekend? I'm surprised there hasn't been any post-meet reports! I was camping with Boy Scouts, but found and talked with a Mr. Monday (I think that was his name) from Kentucky at a rest stop on the way home. He said it was a good meet. He was driving a nice 1955 Patrician.

Yeah. I saw that car too. Okay... How about Stevens-Duryea?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1909 Pierce 48 3 passenger touring ?? </div></div> I think you get the cigar. See Tom Lester's car attached.

For that matter, why do we have months at all. Why not just have a year with 365 (or 366) days counted out consecutively??? Or, why not just have 12 months with 28 even days, with one month having 29 (or 30) days. That would mean every month would start and end on the same day (except the last, of course). Now, if I were king, I'd make it a rule that you can't dis the calendar maker. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

It's not a Hudson 6-54, thought that's what I thought at first as well. The bottom corners of the grille do not slant in like that on the Hudson. I'm pretty sure it's a Locomobile, 1909-10 vintage. Same front chassis features as the 1912 I featured in the March issue. The headlights make me believe it's from around 1909-1910. But then, the front frame horns do not seem to bend as sharply as they do on the Loco.