Paul Dobbin

Sounds like a bunch of old men who aren't nimble enough to get in & out of something like that at this stage in life. We see plenty of old guys like that with flashy rides just slowly driving along in the left lane with their right turn signal on. Good thing they're having fun and still enjoying life in the 4th quarter.

I bet that was a pretty wild color for the drab times in 1927 when most cheap cars were BLACK. This one is dressed up pretty well and looks period correct to me.

This whole thread is a message to all of us, to THINK before we act! During my 30+ year career on the insurance business, I would often get questions with stories like this, ending in their question, "Is it covered?" My reply was, sadly "there is no stupidity exclusion", and now you know why insurance rates are so high. My question to you guys on the Forum is: If you were his agent, would you want to renew him?

You are "gonna have to do all the math and fab my own mounts", PLUS get another transmission to fit and mount and rear end that will take the 455 engine. Then you'll need stronger front suspension, steering, radiator, brakes, all new wiring and frame modifications too. Don't forget the 455 will get about 7 MPG and you'll need another fuel tank, lines and fire suppression equipment. On the other hand you could just drop it in and buy lots of life insurance with the money you save.

Don't forget the pictures of the car with a date stamp from 10 years ago. "Just restored to Like New".

On the early Ford V8's the steering box is very close to the left exhaust manifold. The heat breaks down the gear lube, whether oil or grease, into a thin liquid, then it leaks. So far, the Corn Head grease is not dripping like the liquid 600 gear lube. Even STP melts to a fine liquid with heat, The Corn Head Grease seems to do better even in it's new liquid form. I don't see any risk of dry sector damage. (Yet)

I've heard it recommended for use ion the steering boxes. On the 2015 Sentimental Tour i bought two tubes at a John Deere dealer in New Hampshire. I have it in my steering boxes now and no drips (that;s why I bought it.) Have not tried it in transmissions yet because of no need, but I won't be afraid to try it if i ever need to.

Gregleck, Thanks for you good description of the two shows you attended and you thoughts on both. Also, thanks for your style of participation with period clothing, music and a trunk full of period stuff. I always think that when someone goes to the trouble to do what you do, that any show is much improved. I'm glad that the show recognized you for that effort. We use to go to a Easter Saturday show in Florida where everyone came in period outfits and picnicked on the running boards or blankets, churned ice cream and even had a Easter bonnet contest and a informal period fashion show. No judging or flea market, just an old fashioned picnic that was open for public viewing. It always felt like we entered the twilight zone of pre 1960 vehicles. It was held in a historical park with 28 antique buildings and offered the public a real view of life in the days when these cars and buildings were right in style.

Welcome to the world of antique cars & trucks. The AACA is a place that is primarily for stock, as original antique cars. You may find in your search for a good old El Camino, that many if them have been modified to personal vehicles. The Chevrolet drive lines have improved and become performence oriented over time. Different engines, wheels, tires, paint and body modifications become the standard and the original ones are rare. The El Camino is a great vehicle, except my wife does nit like the half car half truck design. I had a 59, then a 79 and still drive my 81 and love the comfort of a car and the utility of a light duty truck. Here is a link to the El Camino web site/Forum/ads/etc. http://www.elcaminocentral.com/index.php

35BuickakaBelle, I think it depends on what state the car was SOLD in when new. Our 1934 Ford Fordor, sold new in Ohio has two holes in the right front bumper bracket. I think most, but not all of the previous 34 Fords had the same.two holes. Our 1935 Buick Series 40 has a different set of bumper brackets without the two license plate holder holes. I made the attached license plate bracket that fits between the left and right bumper brackets to display the plate in the middle.

Has the same cute look as our 66 VW Bug (Except for the added hood for those who can't drive without a sight device to aim the car) Chrysler had to add that to the Airflows in 1935 too. (Still popular on today's cars)

I AM a member of AACA and have been for years. I am NOT a member of a local region. I AM a member of a national region, the Buzzard's Breath Touring Region. I AM a member of this AACA Forum. Why? AACA is a national voice for our hobby. They do a good job of promoting the hobby and offer many activities and structure for many events, tours, Forums, a Museum and a well respected format for showing, showcasing and furthering a hobby I've loved all my life. They also have the best antique car national car magazine available, that's free with membership. While I don't like to show my antique cars at judged shows, I will put them in HPOF or Driver Participation Class to be part of regional of national shows around the country. They often offer a tour of the host area for antique cars to get to know their part of the USA. As a bonus, I get to see many of the finest antique cars in the country as well as talking to other people with the same interests that I enjoy. Further, I must add that the folks that run this club as volunteers are giving of their time and resources in an effort to make our experience with AACA a better one. We've met most of them over the years on AACA tours, like the Glidden, Sentimental, Founder's and Regional tours and find them all to be real car people willing to share their enthusiasm for our hobby. I find the whole experience as a rewarding membership and realize that while it's not perfect for all Forum participants, some folks are just never happy and have a unfulfilled need to complain without participation. I choose to participate.

Much fuss about nothing in this thread. Remember we don't fire the Post Office for junk mail, we ignore it. Email is the new way to communicate and we all have a "Delete"button. If bashing Insurance companies on a national basis, remember that insurance is different in every state, even of the same company name. They are regulated by each of the 50 states and their rates and underwriting rules all subject to 50 different sets of rules. Each state insurance unit is trying to make a profit by selecting the risks least likely to have claims and they set their risk selection rules differently. When any business offers their services, it's the consumer who decides yes or no, or DELETE, 2 seconds or less ! I'm happy to delete or unsubscribe if it re-occurs. I think most of us are good risks, but I only practiced in one state. Now I'm on my way to play with cars.

The names insured and the vehicles owner must match in all states that I know of. When ownership changes, so must the insurance, Minimum amount of coverage is usually $5000. I never heard of anybody offering $200 coverage because that's below the minimum deductible for most carriers, Search this forum for antique car insurance and you'll find it's a well discussed topic.

WTB:, a 1957 Ford Ranchero. Complete ready to use for light hauling and antique car touring. PaulDobbin@aol.com

I've found a 57 Ford in Seattle (I'm in NC) at a collector car dealer. Sounds interesting, but I'm chicken to buy without some critical eyes on it. Anybody in Seattle with time to look at a car for me? I'm a early Ford V8 guy and haven't had a 57 Ford in 52 years (USAF). If you have time or interest in 57 Fords, I'm looking for a good driver for the later model AACA tours. Please PM me

Looks like a good find, but I bought mine by their reputaion and the fact that I have to remove all the sheet metal from the fire wall forward to change the radiator. I only wanted to do that once! With a custom built radiator, I expected to pay more for an exact duplicate that was all hand made just for my car. That's what I got and I can now climb any of the Smoky Mountains without getting over 190 degrees. I'm happy.

Nick, We went thru all that, and found a solution. We went to a builder that built about a dozen different floor plans and advertised "we build custom homes". They said, pick a plan of the size you want and then tell us how to change it to your custom home. $=up charge. We picked a 1700 SQ Ft 3/2/2 single story plan, then said. Cathedral ceilings, $. Take out two bedrooms and 1/2 bath,- $. Enlarge the garage from 2 to 3, $. Build it over an unfinshed basement with roughed in plumbing, $. Pull the cornér in 5' and put a 10'X30'corner deck on it, $. Add 13 windows (We're on a Mtn top with views in 240 degree diections), $. Add live dormers as sky lights, $, Add a metal roof, $. Add a corner office, $. Add a front porch, $. Now build this 1 bedroom house with 1 & 1/2 baths, we'll finish the lower level ouselves someday. Signed a contract in May and moved in for Christmas 2012. We were here everyday of the build, living in our 2000 SF garage in our motorhome. The garage was my design too, with 3 10'+ wide doors, (1 for the RV the other 2 for cars) a full bath, guest room and a lift, plus 2 carports. In the 3 1/2 years since moving in we''ve finished 1620 SF downstairs and insulated and heated the garages for year round garage time and lanscaped the place. Requiring the purchase of some additional motorized units. Now I can play with cars anytime I feel like it. In the end, this worked out much better cost wise than having my original plan built.

With all the news of massive flooding in West Virginia, we hope all the Buzzies and their cars are safe & dry. We know if you are safe and dry that you'll be having fun with antique cars.

JFranklin, Dandy Dave & emjay are 100% correct, it's a 1916 Model T Touring Car, $440 brand new. No, she doesn't look like a feather weight to me, Maybe the springs were stiffer 100 years ago, when new.

I bought a Walker Radiator for our 1935 Buick Series 40 in the fall of 2014 and installed it in the spring of 2015. Really cool!. I sent them my original to be duplicated. Good job, I'm happy with it. Almost $1000 well spent.

RansomEli, Many "regular agents" represent those companies and can guide any antique car owner through the process. I represented American Collectors Ins. and others for 30 years as most full service agencies do. In the process the antique car owners were able to deal locally with somebody they knew and had confidence in. 800#'s are not always the best choice.

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Matt & Phil, Thanks for the great pictures! Almost like being there again. i wish I could use them in my album because they are much better than the pictures I took. Thanks to all who participated and worked so hard to make it a great tour experience. Paul

Interesting discussion here is mostly semantic's of automobile terminology, abused for years by lesser minds than this forum. As a young man, in the 1970's with a 1934 Ford Tudor, I heard a guy tell me his "father had a Model T Roadster just like it". Later our 1934 Ford Phaeton was called a "Touring", a "Convertible"' and a "Phantom & 4 door Roadster". Then last week as we were enjoying the AACA Sentimental Tour and Canada Joe's 30 Cadillac "Coupe", our 1934 Ford Fordor was called "Roadster" by a well meaning admirer. I've always taken it all as attempts to sound informed by people who just want a chance to share their stories with owners of cars they admire. I just say, "To bad you didn't keep a car that rare, Thank you for your interest. No harm done, unlike in politic's where misinformation and deception is rampant and intentional.