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  1. Don't forget rim or wheel failure is also possible with radial tires on pre war cars. I have seen several issues with them. Also, on the Cadillac's, the rims flex so much the hub caps keep falling off, unless you weld stiffeners on the rim. I recommend caution on any pre war car running radials, I get why people want them. There are so many potential issues, unless you car is at 100 percent, you could end up with lots of other problems. It's also much easier to drive faster with them, which is probably not a good idea either. 

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  2. Just for information........down in South America they have been buying up big series Buick cars, tossing the bodies, and building vintage race cars with modern coachwork. There is an entire class for the Buick Specials in the racing world down there. They have bought about two dozen over the last five years that I know of........than cut them up. I had a big chassis I pulled out of a junk yard years ago, and somehow they found out about it. I sold it to them. For them to have found me, they must have been looking very hard. Ed

  3. Lots of people like them, and others don't. I had a set of them on a 1936 Pierce 12(same size), and removed them. I didn't like the look. They were a good tire, but they are just off enough in look that makes me uncomfortable with them. They are very expensive, and make sure you get TRUCK RADIAL tubes, or you WILL have problems.

  4. The Three Ameigos! The one on the left is Steve Martin. That makes the on on the right Chevy Chase, so you my friend, the one in the middle, MUST be Martin Short. It was a fun day, although seconed in class wasn't our intention! I think I shall  take it for a ride today. Once in  a while I need a Packard road test.......makes me appreciate my Pierce Arrow's more! 😂


    Lots of people keep asking what we are taking to Pebble next year. Here is a photo of what I have currently in mind............(Yes! It's my car.)


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  5. The 1932 Custom Dietrich Sport Pheaton is quite simply the best open car ever designed and built in the US. There are only three of them, all in long term collections. They are also fantastic drivers. All of these comments coming from a Pierce Arrow guy. I will admit to having spent some time behind the wheel on one in the past........a life changing experience. My most enjoyable moment was in Palm Beach having breakfast several years ago at 6am. A very low key gentleman came up to me and said Dietrich sure did a great job on that design......interestingly he didn’t own any collector cars. It was fun to enjoy a car that someone off the street truly understood.

  6. 5 minutes ago, packard12man said:

    Ed, attaching photo taken at Pebble Beach circa 1962.  I assume there is about a one in three chance that you are very familiar with this car!  




    Yes, very familiar with that one! It's my humble opinion the 1932 Full Custom Dietrich Sport Phaetons are the most beautiful open cars ever made.........the 33's are nice, but the open fender cars are where it's at for me. That is NOT a common photo, I I thought that the only copies were in my possession..........the driver in the car when this was taken in 1952 or 1953 if memory serves me, is alive and well......in his mid nineties. 

  7. Just now, 1937hd45 said:

    I can't help but notice that closed cars are now popular, and I guess it is ok to pour funds into their restorations. Bob 


    Time makes all things come full circle. At the true top of the market, whether a car is open or closed doesn't influence price.......closed cars regularly sell for more than opens today, and that goes for pre and post war cars. Personally I like the fit, finish, and attention to detail seen on closed cars that you just don't find on the open cars. I am a particular fan of town cars......which today no one seems to appreciate, so with a bit of luck I should be able to find one that fits my budget.

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  8. Hupp36.......thats a big task..........finding original owners today becomes almost impossible. BUT....don't give up. In the last three days I actually found some very early paperwork on one of the one off cars in this thread. (Auto show car.) I managed for the family members of the current owner to purchase the archive, which had fantastic provenance on the car not known, including paperwork with bill of sale, registrations, names of unknown owners, and a bunch of other stuff. I didn't make a dime on the stuff....and it actually cost me about 150 dollars out of pocket. I was more intrested that the materials get to where they belong. Someone is going to have a GREAT Christmas. I'll be sure that some of the archive is posted here Christmas morning. The stuff was so good, I had to have copies for myself. Never stop looking. In the pile of materials we were able to find the seconed owners son, now in his 80's. Hopefully we can get him on the phone to see if he has more information, and maybe some more photos of the car when it was new......or just a few years old. Time will tell. It's the second time this year I was able to make contact with lost people in the cars history, and secure information and additional photos of back in the day. Here is a photo of the car we took to Pebble this year, and a guy actually walked up to me and said...."My old car!" It was a great moment to meet a guy who drove it as an every day car while going college back in the very early fifties.The photo was taken just as the guy came up to me and was asking about the car. 



  9. This has been a great thread....almost seven thousand views in five days........it's covered fantastic cars.........explored missing and found cars.......and a few that disappeared in recent times.........while viewing this thread just remember one thing.......the most interesting cars can't be posted, as there are people trying to land them and roll them out for a future concours........off the top of my head I can think of about a dozen world class cars that are conspicuously absent........and I hope it stays that way.............landing a "sleeper" is one of the great things in out hobby. I am sure Dave who started this topic is OK with it morphing into people posting photos of old family cars or "neighborhood cars" that have go missing over the years. It's perfectly fine to open up the scope of what's posted here.........keep it going and pay it forward.

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  10. 23 minutes ago, K8096 said:

    Ed, this Pierce was on the Eastside of Cleveland in the 1950's.  Any idea if it survived?  I think it's a 1935 eight cylinder.  It hasn't turned up around here.   





    Looks like the car I bought about eight years ago in Amherst Ohio. (Just outside of Cleavland.) Same year, series, and body style. Purchased it out of a barn from a working farm. Restoration was started. It was mostly apart. We cut it up, and sold off almost every piece. The entire body and all the tin went to replace the Coachwork on a very rusty car in Utica New York. My best guess it a ninty five  percent chance it’s the car I had.

  11. A one off from my hometown. Very well done, cut down from a 1931 V-12 sedan. They even did the wheels right............and check out the hub caps.......attention to detail. You just don't get anyone making that kind of effort anymore. The shop evolved and was in business till about five years ago. The truck is gone as far as I know.


  12. Yes, that's the 34 LeBaron Coupe that Bob Bahre in Maine owns today, still in fantastic original condition. I had the pleasure of helping his collection manager Jeff O. measure the car to see if it would fit in the elevator at the Atlanta Museum of Modern Art. The car was on display there most of the year. It's a top three collection in the world...........and possibly even higher, depending on your taste in vehicles. 

  13. 3 hours ago, twin6 said:

    As roster keeper of early Packards, I would love to know what happened to this car, a c. 1915 model 48 with custom body supposedly by Cole & Woop.  I realize the car is not from the classic era, but thought this would be a good thread to post this to.  A separate thread might be appropriate, for earlier cars or ones that have proved elusive to roster keepers (who always need help!).  I've heard theories this car was lost to the WW2 scrap drive, but the attire of onlookers in the old press photo makes me think the photo was taken after the war.  Another theory was that the car got rebodied, but the histories of the existing 48's don't line up well (and as an aside, I would think a custom body like this would have turned up on another drive train).

    Cole and Woop (2).jpg

    Packard Queens Motors.jpg


    Coachwork sure looks like Demarest of New York to my eye........thoughts? Where did the other body ID come from? Photo looks like 1937 to me.............car has different tires on it in the two photos. Neat car. Har car to hide if it survived.

  14. Bhigdog......thanks for your insights, most interesting is that in the near future, the chauffeur probably won’t be a person. I’m not sure if I would ever be comfortable with technology driving a car for me 100 percent, but it’s probably going to happen faster than any of us probably ever imagined. The thought of an 18 wheeler going down the road by it’s self is not only frightening to me, it’s already happening on a trial basis out west. A safety driver is in the cab behind the wheel, but automated trucking between freight terminals is probably going to happen sooner than many people expect. It will be interesting to see if the restrictions of them only operating at night will hold up. With five million truck drivers in the US, the changes are going to be vast on a social and economic scale. I wonder if the government will regulate how fast the changeover occurs. I’m quite sure your profession will continue on as it has for a long time to come. I sure hope the displaced commercial drivers don’t try to switch over to flying.......seems lately that the quaility of thr professional commercial drives has been eroding quite a bit in my experience. Only one thing is for certain, technology advancements are going to occur faster than many of us can adapt to them. It’s going to be interesting to watch the changes.

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