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More later…….ran the car today for half an hour. Shifted it through the gears up on jack stands. Oil pressure is good. Not overheating so far……the evapo rust pre treatment worked great. Generator is charging. Overall everything is progressing easier now.

Aren’t you glad I told you to only install four or six bolts in the pan? Been there, done that!

Since I am sorting a mid size car for the first time in my life, I guess I will experiment with pressures in the next few weeks. Absolutely a horror story trying to get tires from the only game in town. Let’s just say if I speak my peace it will be a 30 day suspension. Anyway, they can shove it. I sourced tires from across the globe, not my first choice, but less than 40 percent of what the other company wanted. I will post them when they arrive and show them mounted.

My flight to Hershey may get screwed up………I hate to drive 1500 miles………I will be there. Just depends what my mood will be.

We used a similar unit into the late90's. Worked great.

My Bosch Twin Spark Dual Magneto that are just about impossible to find at any price. I was able to secure it for less than half of what I expected to pay. Over the years I have hit the lotto on the field just about every other year.

Call 413-543-9017, ask for John. He is a Pierce guy and had a half dozen on the shelf earlier this summer. He will be at Hershey. Location is Western Mass.

Film at 11. More details later today.

It Runs! 🤪

Steam is what hooked me on old cars when I was five years old............never got over it.

Did both…Model 30 roadster….….the 51 same as Gary. I no longer do vintage aircraft. A good friend went down in the Collins B-17 in Hartford a few years ago. We went through the entire school system together. (1-12) Tragic loss.

To clarify, on long distance tour cars, I run two batteries but only one hooked up. In the event of a generator failure that way I have a full battery to run on for a few hundred miles. This occurred last fall on the Blue Ridge Parkway on the Duesenberg tour. The generator failed. The battery slowly ran down while going along on the tour. (I wasn’t in the car so I didn’t see the guage read discharge.) I was right behind and could see the car develop a running problem……low fuel pressure from the factory electric pump no longer keeping up pressure or volume. On the side of the road trying to diagnose the fuel issue I quickly figured out the issue. Shut the car off, disconnected the generator, swapped over the battery cables from the dead battery to the fully charged battery, and we were off in less than five minutes. Finished the daily tour, and after dinner installed the spare generator and swapped out the dead battery for a fully charged spare. Fast, easy, and a minor issue to deal with in the parking lot. On show cars, I run both batteries as I like the extra bang when cranking. Especially since the motors are new and need the extra power from higher compression. So EVERY car in our collection has two Optimas. They are all set up to run as dual or single with cables that can swap or be installed on a minute notice. Works great, but at the price of Optimas today it is expensive. I use Brillman to make up all my speciality cables. Fantastic quality, fast turn around, and very reasonable. Along with the dual battery set up, on all our tour cars I carry a spare generator, starter, loaded distributor, fuel pump, ect. Each component has all the tools and hardware to deal with it on the side of the road……..I use cheap Harbor Fright tools in the road kits. That way I don’t need to hunt for tools while on the shoulder. Preparation before the tour is fifty times easier than making things up as you go when your stuck in the middle of nowhere.

Practice makes things speed up……….been there, done that.

Let’s see……compression,check. Fuel, check, spark, check. It WILL run. What it makes for noise is yet to be determined.

Well boys, it will be running in the morning.

Maybe turn the question on it’s head……..what is the one car you would like to have a chance to drive? I’m very lucky and have driven about as many pre war cars as is humanly possible. The one car on my list before I cash it in. Doble

The last one I saw sell took my breath away............that was a complete and working unit in very nice condition. It may be easier to fabricate something. In fifty years of looking around swap meets and auctions, I think I have seen three for sale.

After 4pm they will let you drive on the field to pick stuff up........NEVER had a problem after 4 in 40 years. Earlier..........no way. Be sure to be polite.

Have you managed a few hundred miles on it yet? Or still just around the house?

Could be the ball/piston hanging up. I haven't seen the design.

I'm thinking anything under 35 probably isn't safe.........and 20's seems like to me it will overheat. Probably will steer better at the higher numbers. If it was a 160 I would say 45 front/40 rear. On the smaller car maybe a bit lower?

Seems fairly certain there was collaborative efforts of the design before the merger. Since Pierce was tiny, and Stude was medium size, the joint effort made sense. Pierce Arrow fenders from the 20’s to the end were made by Mullins Stamping Company. Think Mullins Trailers, kitchen cabinets, and metal boats. Simply put by the mid 20’s sub let suppliers made sense……… Kelsey Hayes wheels were just about the only thing left by 1932…….no one complains that all the car companies used the same supplier. Steering boxes, rear differentials, frames, brakes, spindles, shocks were almost all outsourced by 90 percent of the manufacturers. Hell, Duesenberg designed their own engines and had Lycoming build them. Yes, I know who owned them also, but they sold to other manufacturers also. Cadillac & Cole had V-8’s designed by Northway………..as did others. Toss in Buda, Continental, Hercules, Wisconsin, the list is endless. Think Cadillac, Buick, Chevy, Pierce, Packard, or Auburn made their own trim and door handles……think again, a devision of GM designed, and manufactured them. The famous Pierce Arrow Archer was done at General Motors, they had the talent, and needed the outside work……just like everyone else.

Isn't it great when an oil pressure problem has a simple at home fix? Please post a photo of the entire car. See you at Hershey. Ed.

Having actually rebuilt examples of both Stude(President) and Pierce engines, they are related cousins. Probably second cousins. Having driven both of them also, a Stude is similar to an Auburn in build quality. Simply put, a Pierce will run circles around the Stude........displacement then and today are still kings of the road. Both are fine automobiles. They are apples and oranges. That said, the Pierce is a MUCH better road car. The original price proves it. I would own a Stude President if I cam across the right body style. The smaller Stude's don't interest me.