John M.

Thanks Peter. Looks like I'm in 25A. Best Regards, John

Going back to comments about the subdivision of class 25, it sounds like it was divided according to year. Its been a while but I show a 1932 MG in class 25. What are the years for each subdivision? Thanks, John

I think the field modifications are really what bring a jeep or any military vehicle to life. It's really rare to see a period photo of one that is true factory-stock. They really look a little odd when you see one restored that way. A little different mindset from the other car I've shown.<P>As Peter suggested, the things I've added are period and restored like new. My thinking is that if they look "right" and don't overwhelm the jeep itself, they will probably be ok for judging. <P>The Iola Military Show is a couple of hours from here and is worth the trip. There's a swap meet with parts and lots of military gear and quite a few vehicles to look at. Not only military but also a large number of antique tractors. <P>John

I suppose a parallel to the unit applied markings on a military vehicle would be the name of a city on a fire engine or the name of a business on the door of a delivery truck. <P>Maybe the equipment on a fire truck would also be the same situation... not always supplied by the factory but required for the truck to complete it's assignment.<P>John

I can't say for certain on other vehicles but on jeeps the "hood" numbers along with U.S.A. above the numbers were the only markings applied at the factory. Some canvas items had part numbers and other information stenciled on. The national insignas (stars),unit identification markings, tactical symbols or informational markings were all added later.<P>This all goes along with my question on how a military vehicle should be presented for judging. While not factory, the vehicle wasn't released for use until all the required markings and equipment were added.<P>I'm planning on taking this jeep to our local AACA judged show in a few weeks. It'll be interesting to see the results.<P>Thanks,<BR>John

I was getting confused because of class 20f "production vehicles 1940 thru 45"... which seemed close but excluded Fords. That made me scratch my head. If I had a Willys MB I wouldn't have thought any more about it.<P>I'm curious about how some of the equipment on a military vehicle is judged. Ever present items like the shovel and ax were added when the vehicle was put into service and was not supplied by the vehicle manufacturer. Would these items be considered the same as a dealer added option on a car or would they be considered as original equipment? <P>Thanks,<BR>John

That's what I needed to know. I considered that a jeep is technically a truck but didn't think about it fitting under "commercial". Many Thanks!<BR>John