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Jim, Shop rate is only part of the equation. All the different subcontractors have become very expensive and they are much less of them. Chrome, generator, starter, upholstery guys, etc. Also just for a data point on materials, I just wrote a check yesterday for a gallon of clear and a gallon of harder. $1545 total. my car took 4.5 gallons of paint, the paint is another $700 a gallon. So just to buy the paint, Hardner and clear is well over $5000. Mix in 1000 hours of bodywork ( minimum), another 5 to 10,000 in miscellaneous materials. And you’re looking at 100 to 130 K to paint a big classic these days. I will absolutely never paint a car again. And definitely never a full restoration ever again.

If it runs, it’s probably worth 20 K all day long.

He was probably afraid he was going to sell it.

Agreed. They parts need to be packed securely.

Frank Casey passed away not too long ago. I believe his son was training with him and will continue (hopefully) doing the stitch work. His process and equipment was 100% unique to him. Definitely going to miss Frank.

The model "N" is the shorter chassis (131") later version of the the longer wheel base 835 (135") wheelbase Royale. The 4 inches missing is taken from hood. It does have the same nickle alloy 359 cube straight eight. This is 5x a Model A Ford.

Ed is right. Just make sure the parts are properly packed and labeled. The chances of UPS ground losing them is very very tiny.

The 750 has the final improved engine design with larger axles and bearings I believe. The case is bigger too. A Stanley guy can confirm that. Things went sideways with the SV the next year (25) as they were trying to lighten up the design and went backwards.

32 for Sale: 1932 HUPMOBILE model M Sedan No motor transmission only Has been in storage for 20+ years Asking for 12,000 or best offer

It is the shorter wheelbase six-cylinder version.

Ed, I think the four-speed cars had staggered rear shocks to help compensate for the rear end twisting up. I’m pretty sure my car did.

Identical to the one I had except mine was a convertible and blue. I think I got around 28K for it (17 years ago) as you see in the before picture and the after picture when the guy was done restoring it.

Interesting. How many square feet did you do and about how much was it?

Al, I'm not an expert. But I believe the production numbers were minuscule. Post a picture please!

You don’t say what years your cars are. I’m assuming postwar. The other issue is with pre-war rims. They may not withstand a radial tire. Late 1930s are generally OK. But not in every case.

We have this discussion all the time on the forum. The cost of professional restoration is eye watering and has been for a long time. This car was done at one of the best shops in the country so expect to pay accordingly. I think it is too hard to value on BAT so I'm not even going to guess. I would have advised the owner to sell it privately.

Lee, cool car! Are you a member of the Franklin club? I would advertise to those guys first. Or alternatively you can put a bunch of pictures up here and ask for offers.

It was short. Just not to the point.

John, it was not who I thought it was. I got a PM from another member who told me who it was. It is somebody very reactive in the club.

Title change makes me chuckle!

You need to see it in person. I always preferred the 53 over the 54 but I'm now 50/50. This is the key picture.

That doesn't look like the racedeck I'm familiar with? https://racedeck.com/

Do not remember anybody actually using a Packard transmission for drag racing. I have to say that the four speed jet flight General Motors transmission in our Rolls Royce is much much better. A common conversion for the Packard was the Chrysler torque flight. However, for the purposes of discussion, it’s a perfectly adequate transmission.

Make sure you join the RROC if you have not and also become a member of the early post war society.

Our 53 Caribbean had the two speed automatic. It really wasn’t as bad as you would think. And that was only the 327 engine.