29 Chandler

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  1. For those interested I found a good article on the origins of the sedan body style on the Hemmings site: http://www.hemmings.com/hcc/stories/2010/08/01/hmn_feature13.html My sedan looks very similar to the 1913 Studebaker sedan shown in this article except that the three door hinges that are very prominent on my body are absent on the Stude.
  2. Here is a picture of what the closed cars looked like for Chandler in 1915, a very different look. I think this is a Springfield body on the sedan.
  3. So here are some photos of the sedan. The black and white photo is about what it might have looked like in 1914, the body is very similar. The next photo is our car sitting on the 1920 Chandler frame that it has now in 1921. The color photo is of the car today. Back in the 20's the car was reportedly used as a traveling car for a Starrett salesman here on the west coast. That might explain the disc wheels and the addition of a second gas tank in the cowl.
  4. I am looking for more information on Willoughby bodies from the teens. There is a lot of information about this body builder on coachbuilt.com, but that is one of the only sources I have found so far. We recently acquired what we believe is a Chandler Willoughby sedan from 1914. From what I understand this was the only year that Chandler contracted with Willoughby for their closed car body, the next year they purchased from Springfield. I am looking for pictures of any other Willoughby sedan bodies from the period to help me positively identify the body. In it's current state their are no maker's tags anywhere that I can find. I have found and number stamped into one of the floor boards and was very fortunate to find a paper body number tag hidden all there years behind one of the rear wooden supports. It has the the body number written on it in pencil and what looks like the date of manufacture above the body number. The date is legible for the month and day, but not the year, that part of the paper tag is gone. The date corresponds to a weekday in 1914 so I feel pretty good about the year. Thanks in advance for any information that adds any more to the history of this body.
  5. Thanks guys you have given me hope. The body is from a 1914 Chandler sedan with what we think is a Willoubghy body. This is possibly the last one left as Chandler only contracted with Willoubghy for 1914. In the end I want to do it right as there is only one pattern to go from, what is left on this car. Before we get to this stage the body (wood and aluminum will need to be rebuilt). Its a long term and costly project, but one I fell worth saving. Here is a picture of the body today. We just brought it home about a month ago.
  6. Here is a sample of some material on a door. The rest of the car is missing a lot, but I can probably find good samples of what is needed for the other areas. Most of it was all cloth.
  7. Where does one find vintage fabric to restore an interior of a 1914 Sedan? Our car is a Chandler so the common suppliers that cater to Fords is just not going to work if we hope to match the original material. Am I asking for the impossible?
  8. Thanks go to our friend and Chandler Historian Roger for the quick answer to the puzzle: Both badges were used on the Model 17 Chandler. The one on the right for the radiator and the one on the left on the pressed steel hubcap. "
  9. I just found an old Chandler badge at a swap meet this weekend. It looks to be the same vintage as the radiator badge on the left in the photo. The one on the right might be off a hub cap, not sure. Any ideas about the year on these two?
  10. Harold's 1914 Chandler touring car is the centerfold car for Nov-Dec 2014 edition of the Horseless Carriage Gazette. Beautiful picture of this very early car. Just wish there were mores pictures and a story to go with it. Congratulations Harold and Marie!
  11. Got the car home today. Here are a few more pictures. Will spend some time looking it over this weekend to learn more about what is there and not there. Here is a shot on the way home and in the driveway.
  12. Time for an update. The car is now out in the daylight after being removed from its place of storage for the last several decades. I'll bring a trailer and truck on Friday to bring her home to her new home
  13. Found a source for you on another thread: http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/114/3400
  14. I have some of the old style 1/4" round packing rope if that will work for you. Its the asbestos and graphite kind that you can not find anymore. If this will work for you I can send you some.
  15. If you find out what size you need let me know. I have some NOS packing material that might fit.
  16. Hi Marie, Thank you for that information. And congratulations on all the event and awards your family's Chandler has won! I would love to see the car someday and get more pictures of it. This sedan body is definitely from pre (late) 1915 when they went to the Springfield bodies. The main difference that we can see in the earlier Willoughby body style is the front side windows are flat. On the Springfield the sedan glass is curved on the front side windows. There are a number of other differences including a pointed detail that can be see on the front doors of the 1913 and 1914 Chandler touring cars that are better documented. I have the book you are referring to and as you noted there is not a picture of the earlier sedans. If you find any other information please let us know. Thanks!
  17. Hi Mike, Nice to here from you its been a long time since we saw you in Seattle at the Chandler Meet. At this point the body not available as we have been looking forward to getting this project for over a decade now. Now that we finally know what we have we are torn as to how to restore it. Matching up the body to the correct chassis is the ultimate goal, but there is supposed to be a picture of the car from 1921 that will be delivered with the car. In that picture we hope to learn more details about when the car was put in its current configuration. After doing more research on the body we are pretty sure that it is a Willoughby body. From what we can tell this was the only year for that body style. Hopefully when we get the car home we can find more details on the car that further confirm this. A couple of interesting modifications that have seen done to the car in its past include: - fitment of four lug hubs and disc wheels - a second gas tank up front with SW vacuum tank - Pullman style fold down front seat - and a big metal rack crudely mounted to the back A couple of thought come to mind as to why these changes were made: - the car was used to to camp in (I've heard this was popular in the 1920's) - maybe it was used for long trips? There were a few Chandlers that traveled across the country in the early days of motor travel. One thing is for sure we will take our time on this one. I still have our 1929 sedan to get running. And we have this dream someday of displaying the first and last Chandler sedans together.
  18. We've done a little more digging on the old Chandler sedan and determined (for now) that it is a 1914 sedan body sitting on a 1920 chassis. We found the chassis number on the right frame rail and looked at more of the details of the car and that lines up whit the serial number. I will be interested to see what year hood I should have on it as it looks like it might have had the 1920 radiator on it. Wonder how that would line up with the 1914 cowl on the body? The speedometer is also correct for 1920 as it drives off the drive shaft and not the front wheel. This car is full of mysteries.
  19. I think Egge can supply you with one. They had one for my six.
  20. Looks a lot like my 1929 model 65. Can you post some pictures of the interior?
  21. Nice find. Which body style did you get? Post a picture to share.
  22. Here's your first peak of the oldest (newest) Chandler to our collection of cars. Its an early Chandler sedan. There are several conflicting clues on this one to help us nail down the exact year. When the light is better and access is better I'll know the year of the frame better. Been sitting here for several decades. This will be a long term project, but one worth saving from the scrape heap. Car is not home yet, but when it is I will be pouring all over it for clues to its history.
  23. The serial number is correct for a 1929 model 65. From that angle the model 65 details look correct, like the hubcaps, lights and front bodywork. This one looks nicely done, but I doubt that it was done by the factory. At this point Huppmobile was putting Chandler cars togther from the parts they had on hand to complete the run. I suppose it is possible that it came from the factory, but I have never seen reference to the factory producing a "Huckster". Would be a neat driver on tours or around town. Thanks for sharing.