29 Chandler

Water pump is now painted and tested, about ready to go back into the car. I decided to paint it Pearl Gray to match the engine. It maybe be the correct color choice looking at the original literature.

Radiator is back. After some cleaning it's now painted!

Big progress on my 1914 Chandler. After about a year our 110 year old radiator is now completely rebuilt and painted. The Brassworks built a new core and replaced the brass surround. Almost ready to put it back in the car! Before primer and paint All dressed up with new paint

Very exciting Peter. The body looks to be in incredible condition. Will be following your progress very closely.

At least on my 1914 Chandler I could not find an easy way to replace the packing without removing the pump first.

See if you can tell the difference now with new chains (x3) installed on the new sprockets: Before After Here's what we had to do to get an "odd" pitch installed to add one more link to the length of the chain. I had to remove two links so this "offset" link could be installed: Glad this phase is complete. Now I'll paint the timing chain cover and seal it up.

Paul I replied to you in the Chandler forum about your questions. I have the PDF copy of the parts book you need. I sent you a private message so we can exchange email addresses.

Paul I have a copy of the parts book that I will email you. It's 203 pages scanned into a PDF. For the serial number it is also stamped on the right side frame horn. Also since you have the engine opened up you might see the engine number stamped on the parts. All of the moving parts were stamped with my engine number and this matched the number that was written in grease pencil on the outside of the block.

Hi Paul, Looks like you have a very clean and original 1929 Chandler Model 65. For some of the engine parts you need try Egge I have used them in the past. They can probably make pistons for you as well. What is the serial number of your car and are you interested in joining the Chandler-Cleveland Motor Club? There is no cost to join and if interested I will email you our last newsletter. BTW I suspect if that is the original steering wheel in the first picture then the car is likely a Deluxe Sedan which would mean you would have "fake" woodgraining on the interior. You also have the optional Delco Lovejoy shocks installed.

Our radiator has been in the shop for almost a year now. Yesterday the shop posted a short video on Instagram showing the latest progress. In all the time its been there this is the first time I have seen any updates since we dropped it off. Chandler Radiator

Update on my Radiator. While I have not received any updates on my radiator rebuild in a while I did see my almost completed radiator on the shop's Instagram feed yesterday. So maybe this month I'll be able to pick it up. Progress... Chandler Radiator

Anyone needing paint matched in Southern California, I highly recommend the guys at El Monte Pain Supply (now MartinColor). They mixed up paint to match all three colors on my car from the parts I brought in less than an hour.

I have a G and unfortunately it is not a match. I'll have to research the other ones. Chandler did not specify which model their cars were equipped with.

This photo is from 1979 of my 1914 Chandler. Can you identify the carburetor on it? Unfortunately this did not stay with the car.

When I joined the forum we had recently found and purchased our 1929 Chandler and I was not feeling too creative that day. Have since added a 1914 Chandler to the garage. Chris Gorman

Thanks Rusty for that suggestion. Sometimes the obvious things escape me. There is indeed a cover for the valves that I can easily remove and get the paint matched.

I wish it was that easy. The front cover was repainted a darker color some time in the past 🫤 good idea though

Here's a decent shot of the paint today.

A friend just sent me a picture of a color sample from 1910 for Pearl Gray, it's the lightest shade of gray they offered. Looking at the sample it is pretty close to the paint on the engine now. So that confirms its original (possible as the engine only has about 17K miles on it so far) or was repainted when the car was restored in the 1960's (more plausible). But now after reviewing pictures of the other two surviving 1914 Chandler cars, their water pumps are painted black. Neither car is restored, nor are these cars (projects) untouched from the factory. So maybe it was always black and the factory image below is what they thought they would be?

This is what I use. Same size as was on the roll under the front seat with the "spares" that the previous owner left. I use two rows of it.

Hi Bloo, The impeller was remade on mine by a friend about a year ago. I'll be playing with the gasket thickness when I get this put back together. I had used a rubber gasket this last time, but it continued to leak a bit.

Eric where is your radiator being repaired? Ours is still at Brassworks where a completely new core is being installed. Hope to have it back later this month. And I wish it only going to cost $1900 🫤

I am rebuilding my water pump while I have the radiator out being rebuilt. I have taken the water pump all apart. I found some interesting markings on the bracket that the pump mounts to. The letters C M C CO and the number 600 are clearly stamped on it. I suspect the letters stand for Chandler Motor Car Company. I wonder if this was a part made by an outside vendor and supplied to Chandler. The "600" part number does not appear in the parts manual. The parts manual only listed the water pump as a complete assembly. All of the original paint is long since gone on it. I previously painted it black which is how it was when we got the car. Looking at period literature the engine is pained Pearl Gray and the pump looks to be the same color.

The original literature for our car states the engine was painted "Pearl Gray", the literature of the time (1914) show the engine and components a light color. I am restoring the water pump right now and think it was originally painted the same color as the engine. Rather than just paint it black again I would like to try and find a paint to come close to the original color. Any suggestions on what to use?

Good news to report. The manufacturer of the chains responded yesterday morning and will be sending additional “pitches” for each chain. In a few weeks they should be shipped.