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  1. John; That full frontal view is an interesting shot for several reasons. First it shows metal side mount covers seldom if ever seen on the FE/FH Presidents. Second the car does have the radiator shutters consistent with the 1930 model year but the bumper is the earlier style (and how about the "tilt" of that bumper?). Third it has an accessory spotlight, a pretty rare option for 1930.


    I have one other view of the same car, the gentleman has his hat on in this one and the camera angle shows a bit more of right side of the vehicle. Wish we could read the state and date of the license plate.



  2. Wasif

    I scanned 4 pages of data from the 1929-40 Studebaker Chassis Parts catalog, these pages cover the side mount spare tire attachment system. You can see on Pg 293 there are illustrations that show the various styles of spare tire mounts used then. The one used on your car is "F", next if you look at the ILL item numbers 1 thru 16 they are listed on the following pages from 293 to 296. To find the correct Studebaker 6 digit part number for the part you need follow down the columns by ILL 1 thru 16 and read the line listed for "Model 73" (1933 Commander 8 is model 73) after the #73 code will be the 6 digit number for the part.


    Group L15

    ILL 1 Arm, carrier #73 = 257127W (RIGHT SIDE); 257128W (Left Side)

    ILL 2 Bracket, arm dash #73 = 257298 (RH); 257299 (LH)

    ILL 4 Shaft, carrier lock #73 = 257574W

    ILL 5 Shaft, carrier #73 = 256810W

    ILL 6 Clamp, carrier lock #73 = 256668W

    ILL 8 Winged screw #73 = 301796W

    ILL 10 Pad, carrier clamp rubber #73 = 302049

    ILL 11 Grommet, carrier arm rubber #73 = 239439

    ILL 12 Grommet, carrier shaft rubber #73 = 239439

    ILL 16 Bushing, carrier arm rubber #73 = 256317

    Group L16

    ILL 2 Cylinder lock w/keys #73 = 256766

    ILL 6 Nut, 1/2" 20 tpi #73 = 168524

    New reproduction copies of Studebaker parts catalog's are published by FAXON Auto Literature, 3901 Carter Av, Riverside, CA 92501, 1-800-458-2734 or online at Faxon | Shop Manuals for Car & Truck Owners | DIY Service, Repair or Maintenance

    Having a copy of the parts catalogs (there is a BODY PARTS and a CHASSIS PARTS book for each model) for your 1933 Commander 8 model 73 would be helpful to identify any parts you require by the Studebaker part number to insure you get the correct part you need. They also published service manuals that instruct how to repair all the systems in the car.






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    Thank you for the pages from your ignition manual. The diagram for the 1929-30 STudebaker distributor is correct, I printed it out and put it in my service files for reference. I did once own a 1930 President Victoria but sold it 10 years ago in a weak moment. I have since acquired a 1928 Studebaker Commander Big Six Victoria to play around with. It has a less complicated ignition system.

    John Shanahan (stude8)

  4. Some years ago I had the brakes on my 1930 President 8 Victoria relined by a shop in Algoma, WI by mail order. They did a very good job, quick turn around time and attached is a photo of how they looked when I received them. You can see they used a different coefficient of friction type material on the #2 shoes (red color). They worked very well after being installed.

    The backing plate photo is the old linings that were a few years old that did NOT WORK good, they were a green color woven fabric material done by a Chicago, IL truck shop, they tended to grab very harshly when activated especially when turning a corner and the front wheel on the outside of the turn radius would grab so hard it would screech the tire. That was the reason for re-relining them.

    I also added a set of Bendix brake adjusting instructions for 1930 President 3 shoe systems. Good luck on your brake job.








  5. I found the data page I have from info in a 1934 Motor's Handbook about the 1929-30 Studebaker President 8 dual coil ignition system and just noticed the illustration is incorrect because they show a 12 cylinder cap in the drawing. Probably the art dept got confused by the 10 posts on the distributor cap (8 cyl's and 2 spark coil's). It does illustrate how the two coils are triggered by the two sets of points.



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    The dual coil 1928-30 Studebaker President 8 system used a dual ended rotor that fired four cylinders with one coil and the other four with the second coil. The plug wires were arranged so one rotor tip commutated from one coil then alternated to the opposite rotor tip that commutated from the second coil. As it rotated each coil had its own set of points synchronized with the rotor that had two seperate commutator brushes in the cap [1 in center post and the other that commutated a brass ring molded into the cap].

    Attached are several photos of the parts that comprised the delco 668A or C version (A used a small key to index the rotor on the distributor shaft that experienced shearing if it bumped a post while rotating so later C version changed to a "D" shaped index hole for durability).

    I have an electrical diagram of the circuit I drew up but can't find it at the moment. The parts photos will show the details of the distributor, points, rotors and 10 hole caps.

    I once owned a 1930 President and rebuilt these distributors for other owners also.

    The photos show Top and Bottom view of type A and C rotors; A set of service parts for a dual coil ignition system; one view of inside of the dual rotor cap with brass commutator ring; two views of a 668 type distributor head with points and condensors.







  7. My answer in post #5 explained the wire shown in the original Avanti work shop wiring diagram from the ballast resistor to ignition coil (+) terminal was not numbered in the wire list text. The reference to 22A was simply to guide you to the source of voltage to the ballast resisitor in the diagram.

    A number of production changes to the Avanti wiring were made over time and documented by "Service Letter" publications two of these related to ignition system were J-1963-6 and J-1963-11. I did a search of my Avanti documentation files and found them and scanned them to insert here. It is possible even at this point in time that not all Avanti's had these changes installed so you can read the details and confirm if the changes exist on your car.

    *Due to forum file size limits the 8-1/2" x 11" page sizes had to be reduced to 5 x 7 to get data down to 1MB each.





  8. The question in post #1 about a wire [Green w/Black trace] in area of distributor should be from the 1.25 ohm ballast resistor to the ignition coil (+) terminal. It is shown in the Avanti wiring diagram BUT is not numbered *See wire 22A from ignition switch TO ballast resistor input.


  9. I need a Throwout Bearing for my 1923 Studebaker Special six. Any ideas of where to look? I am in Northern California. Gary

    This is not an easy item to find at this age. It would be good to know the Studebaker part number for reference, you will need to get the Studebaker parts catalog Book A for Big & Special Six models, look under Division E-5 "Clutch Release Bearing" for the factory part # (*my 1925-28 book shows #135065 for Model EW-GB).

    Then contact Studebaker International Inc, 733 W. Chippewa Av, South Bend, IN 317-462-3124

    parts dept and see if they have the number or a substitute in stock. If not then you will have to inspect the bearing you have for a manufacturers part number, usually stamped in the bearing inner or outer race flange or the roller dust shield. With the manufacturer number (Federal Mogul or New Departure, etc) contact a local distributor and have them do an inventory search for that part number.

    In the worst case you might need to measure ID, OD and thickness of the original you have with a caliper and do an online search of bearings by sizes to find a match. If ID & OD match but thickness doesn't you could have shims made to install behind the bearing to get it positioned for operation in your yoke.


  10. Wayne

    My book on Studebaker serial and engine numbers has a listing that shows all 1925 and 1926 Big Six cars were model "EP", 75hp 120" or 127" wheel base with chassis serial number 2,060,001 thru 2,073,000 for 1925 and 2,073,001 thru 2,102,299 for 1926. Engine numbers were EP-1 and upward for 1925 thru 1926. The engine number was stamped on the starter motor support.

    Just in case your engines are not marked "EP", from 1922 thru 1924 they were marked "EK" and in later 1927 if in a President model they were marked "ES-43,301 and up. If in a Commander model they were marked "EW-1" and up.


  11. I've heard of putting a tub of axle grease in the refridgerator over night then dipping the end of the spring that goes against the pressure plate in the cold grease, inserting them in place then work fast getting a few bolts started before the grease warms up and unsticks the springs. Another trick was to lace the springs in place to the clutch cover plate with fishing line or sewing thread until the cover is positioned then snip the thread loops out after a few bolts are started and holding everything together.


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    I just reread your post and noted the description "BIG SIX" and suspect what I thought was a 1925 brochure is actually a 1924! They weren't marked by year at that time? The dealer cards had a cover card that shows the 3 model lines, Big Six, Special Six and Standard Six by wheel base length 127"-120", 120" & 113".

    What is the wheel base of your car? The radiator shell has the embossed face used on the Big Six chassis card.


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