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  1. Well Hank, you were right about feeling comfortable with a price point for 1991's. The car sold 2 weeks ago very near the reduced price of $8,991 on AutoTrader. I really believe that first-rate Reattas have turned the corner and are at last swinging up the appreciation bell curve. I sold all my Reatta memorabilia for an additional $100 on eBay last month so am now officially out of the Reatta camp, but will cherish my years in the industry and those spent on this board. We are off to retirement on a beach in Mexico where we can subsist on our Social Security income which regretfully is impossible to do in this US of A. Nonetheless, I will lurk on the board now and again and wish you all well.
  2. No longer comfortable with the price if I expect to sell it this year for I'm going to a place where I can't take it with me and need cash. Price now lowered on this forum only to $8,991 but probably won't make much difference. Rawja . . . thanks so much for the picture download you've been such a great asset to this group over the years . . . . . . speaking of which, Leigh Anne, they were shot by a good professional photographer of mine with a high-end Nikon digital . . . only wish it had been a sunny day.
  3. Sorry guys, neither can I. I sent a query to our Webmaster regarding the problem but have not heard back from him yet. Perhaps one of you can detail the proper proceedure. I downloaded 9 of the photos the same day to my ad on AutoTrader with no problem. You may wish to go there, do a 1991 Reatta search and bring up my entry. Be sure to click onto "View Larger Photos" for best results. Looking at the listings there I am comfortable with my price. The Kansas City car similar to mine, but with fewer options, has 12,000 fewer miles and the owner is asking $14,500. Then again he has been running this offer on www.AutoTrader.com with the same mileage and price for at least 6 months.
  4. Price lowered; photo added.
  5. Regretfully, due to retirement and health insurance issues, it is time to sell the second long-term Reatta which I have owned. The car is in fantastic mechanical and cosmetic condition ... the interior and trunk in particular, for never having been detailed. I flew to Louisville in May of 2002 to purchase this beautiful coupe with but 55,000 miles on it from one of Tom Payette's customers. Some of you will recognize Tom as a former Buick dealer there and fellow contributor to this forum. It has always been garaged since purchase, and I have added just over 11,000 miles. I put over 100,000 miles on my 1990 and hoped to pamper the last of these wonderful machines. This one has the only 3 factory options available(sun roof, 16-way seat, and CD player) plus the sometimes seen dealer installed Cellular One phone at the "transmission" tunnel on the passanger's side. The origional window sticker with the car shows a list price of $31,871.00. The leather case with signed owner's manual no longer contains the flashlight, tire gage or pen. Sorry there are no pictures at this time but I will be providing some by a professional photographer friend of mine in the near future. Following is Howard's 8/02/02 info form. Some of you will recall that Howard and I posted the entire contents of the Automobile Quarterly Reatta article on this forum a couple years ago. Mileage: 66,634 as of 10/28/05 Considered Correct? Y Location: Holladay, (Salt Lake City) Utah Title: Clear Any Accident History? N Asking Price: $9,491 Willing to take trade N Exterior Color: Claret Metallic (Burgandy). Of the just 1,214 '91 Coupes produced, only 8%were Claret. Paint Original? Y Paint Condition? Excellent to Very Good (A few very minor front end rock chips) Moulding Color: Claret Body Dents: Y. If Y where? One fingernail size in front of hood crease (rock) Body Rust: N Windsheild Chipped or Cracked? N Vent Glass Intact? Y Out Side Mirrors Intact? Y Headlight Motors Function Correctly? Y Tail Light Lense: Clear Interior Color: Saddle Interior Original? Y Seat Condition? Excellent Headliner Condition? Excellent Carpet Condition? Excellent Original Floor Mats: Y Floor Mat Condition: Very Good Steering Wheel Leather: Good Sun Roof? Y Works? Y 16 Way Seats? Y Works Y Functional Keyless Entry? Y Both Remotes? Y Problems with Electronic Dash items? N If Y describe problems: Power Windows Work Correctly? Y Power Seats Work Correctly? Y Power Door Locks Work Correctly? Y Power Antenna Work Correctly? Y Original Sound System? Y Sound Systems Functional? N If N what are the problems: Great radio but early optional player typically ejects CDs. After Market Sound System? N If Y describe: A/C Functional? Y If N describe problem: Converted to 134A? N Suspension require any attention? N If Y describe what is needed Tire Brand: Generic from last owner. No manufacturer markings. Remaining Tread: Good to Fair Are All Tires Matched? N Replaced 1 with Kumho. Factory Wheels? Y If N describe the non stock wheel Factory Wheel Center Caps Condition: Good Any Brake Components Replaced? Y If Y describe the part(s) replaced and when? Loaded front calipers 5/02; loaded rear calipers 9/03. Last Time Brake System Was Flushed? 9/03 (Delco, not Teves system on '91). Original Engine? Y If N when replaced and how many miles on replacement? Original Engine Rebuilt? N If Y when and how many miles ago? Does Engine require attention? N If Y what needs to be done. When was last tune up? 2003; new side-pole battery 2/04. Does the engine, cooling system, power steering, or brake system leak any fluids? N If Y describe in detail what is leaking, to what extent. How often do you change the oil? Every 3,000 miles. Original Transmission? Y If N when replaced and how many miles on replacement? Original Transmission Rebuilt? N If Y when and how many miles ago? Does Transmission require attention? N If Y what needs to be done? When was last Transmission Service? Unknown. Feels/sounds bulletproof. Any Transmission Leaks? N If Y to what extent? Have CV joints been replaced? N If Y when and how many miles ago? In General, What items need attention? None. My Reatta Drives: Excellent I am the 4th owner of this Reatta per AutoCheck investigation prior to purchase. I have owned this Reatta for 3 Years and 5 Months. Contact Me at 801-278-8597 any time or email me at houmard@utahisp.com
  6. Great thread guys. Concensus appears to be that GM can't design striking shapes any longer and that wind tunnels are the culprit. Need to disagree on both counts. Has always been a lot of talent in GM Design and likely always will be. Marketing & bean counters have long been the nemesis of GM design. I was once there. GM marketing will almost invariably take the "safe course" (with a swift kick from finance) and follow the segment leaders. In Buick's case this is Toyota, Acura, and now Lincoln since it is moving down scale. Current Cadillac design was a hard fought gamble that is now paying off thanks to its SUV and performance model moves. Most any theme works when translated to a 2-seater, huh? My former boss, Bill Porter, designed the last Riveria as his swan song before retirement. I disagreed somewhat with its "pincned" aero shape but it did have some fine character surface development which carried over to other models. UPSHOT: Agree with you that cherish the superb design of our Reatta's. Or perhaps I've slipped into old fartdom!
  7. Hi Tom . . . Haven't seen a post from you in awhile. Don't have anything for sale but I do have one of your former '91's (your dealer ID on the back). Flew to Louisville in March of 2002 to buy it from a former customer of yours across the river in Indiana. Had 55,000 miles then. Still just 68,000 now and just a compressor, battery, and 4 loaded rotors later. Hope you find the wheels.
  8. kc-griz: Do you have an 800 No. or website for American Reliable Insurance please?
  9. Richard Luker was a Navy fighter pilot in Viet Nam. His specialty was going down to draw enemy fire so that his squadron could locate the SAM sites. I learned this from my next-door neighbor, a retired Delta Airlines captain whom Richard visited often driving his Honda del Sol (he needed a "sky view" in all his cars). Also, he yearned for a Reatta. Sitting in my coupe, Richard concluded that the sun roof was restrictive, so he would search for a standard coupe and install a pop-up moon roof. He settled on a '88 red/tan with black molding in Phoenix. No sun roof of course, or CD but with a 16-way seat. For Barney, the VIN appears to be 1G4EC11C1JB903058. By the time it arrived in town here, Richard was hospitalized with pancreatic cancer. On a good day, he sliped out and put his last few miles on it. I learned that he succumbed on a Sunday about a month ago. I saw the Reatta briefly at my neighbor's. It has 123,000 miles, is a good repaint with some slight hood scratches and fine, hand-drawn pin stripes. The headliner is beginning to sag and it has a quarter-size blemish on the driver's seat. What was most striking is the flawless, clean condition of the engine compartment and trunk. I might be able to get further information but will be out of town until this Friday. Interested parties may call Richard's widow after 6pm Mountain Time at 801-272-8844. I am told she has pictures available and expect that she will ask around $3,500.
  10. I'm just 5'-11" and my '90 coupe w/o a sunroof had plenty of headroom. My '91 with one is very tight and disappointing. Yes the seat can be lowered a little.
  11. Very nice job Howard. And the motion monitor in the lower right corner of the photo works too. FYI, I did get around to posting the Motor Trend Reatta test on the Automobile Quarterly thread which at the moment is on Page 11 of this site. There is also a Car & Driver article by Tony Assanza I placed there discussing all of these Reatta factory specials.
  12. As promised long ago . . . from the February 1988 issue of Motor Trend . . . (note that the cover photo is captioned BUICK REATTA IS HERE ? FINALLY!) I would still like to find the superior tests from Road & Track and Car & Driver. Buick Reatta Jumping with both seats into the luxo-sporty wars by Don Fuller Niche marketing is all the rage these days. The idea is to find some spot where nobody else offers any thing, then build to fill in the blanks. It?s the automotive industry?s version of hit ?em where they ain?t. The Japanese have raised this to a high art form, and now we Americans are following suit. But since we?re talking about building a car with a special appeal to an admittedly limited number of buyers, the unit price has to go up. So niche marketing means high-priced cars. Which brings us to the Buick Reatta. Like the Cadillac guys with the Allante? and the Chrysler guys with their still-to-come Maserati TC, the people at Buick identified a market for an upper-crust 2-seater. To bring this niche into focus, as explained to us by Joe Fitzsimmons, Buick?s marketing line manager, a whole bunch of potential buyers were asked what they liked and didn?t like about 2-seaters as they perceived them. They said they liked the idea of a car that was sporty-looking, had good handling, and delivered at least some spunky level of performance. But it didn?t have to be an asphalt-ripper. They said they didn?t like the idea of a car that was cramped, rode too harshly for everyday use, and wasn?t comfortable. For some reason, these people perceived 2-seaters as neither safe nor secure, not ?substantial.? ?I?ve always shied away from 2-seaters because they weren?t safe,? was Fitzsimmons? relayed generic reply from the consumer groups. So, Fitzsimmons said, the question was: ?How could we make a Buick fit this niche we had identified?? He calls it the ?civilized 2-seater; that?s the niche we?ve been going after,? and explained the need to ?take all the plusses of sports cars and eliminate the negatives. Take all the plusses of luxury cars and eliminate the negatives.? Just a simple case of ac-cen? tu-ate the positive and e-li? mi-nate the negative, it would seem. Fitzsimmons thinks the car is pretty close to the targeted middle ground. If it leans one way or the other, he thinks it?s more toward luxury than sport. In some ways, we agree; in other ways, not necessarily. One thing was clear: This baby was going to need some knock-out styling. Everywhere Buick asked, distinctive looks ranked high on the potential buyers? wish lists. After all, you buy an expensive 2-seater pretty much for impact down at the old country club parking lot. Now the question is: Who will want it? Fitzsimmons identified two major groups: First are the professional executive and manager types, aged somewhere between 35 and 50, what Fitzsimmons calls the ?maturing boomers.? For these people, who will likely use the Reatta on an everyday basis, it conveys success and is a present to themselves for making enough money to afford it. The second group is slightly older and favors American cars. These people may have owned a Corvette in college, and maybe now they?re looking for an automotive fountain of youth. They?re socially elite, and sob appeal weighs heavily in their purchase decisions; they want what the other guy doesn?t yet have. For all cases, the Reatta was configured to deliver the status, flair, and sporty characteristics of a sports car but without the harshness, cramped interior, or hassles. Let?s see if the Reatta so delivers. The general description is for a sleek 2-seater hardtop on a front-drive chassis that?s basically a shortened Riviera/Toronado/Eldorado platform. Power is from Buick?s3.8-liter V-6, and the only transmission choice is a 4-speed automatic. The suspension is fully independent with struts front and rear; front springs are coils and the rear a fiberglass transverse leaf. Brakes are 4-wheel discs with ABS. Steering is power-assisted rack-and-pinion. Alloy wheels, 15x6.0 in. wide, mount P215/65R15 Goodyear Eagle GT+4 blackwall tires. All body panels except the roof and front fenders are electro-galvanized steel for rust protection, and the front fenders are a thermo-plastic called GTX. The drag coefficient is 0.34. It?s equipped to the hilt, the only options being a power sunroof, 16-way power adjustable driver?s seat, and leather upholstery. Curb weight is listed as 3350 lb; the EPA numbers are 19/29 mpg city/highway. We think the price will be around $27,000. And it?s the first strictly 2-seater Buick has ever built. That?s the basic description, but is barely covers what is one of the most important new Buicks in many years. Looks were at the top of the priority list, and this thing?s got ?em and gets ?em. In our time with the Reatta, we found people either loved it or hated it, and there wasn?t much fence straddling. We put in our vote for the terrific looks faction, but they?re still counting ballots and it might not be the first time we?ve sided with the minority opinion. Anyway, we think it?s cleanly done, fresh, modern, and not like anything else on the road. In this market, the ability to stand out from the parking-lot crowd is a big part of the deal, and the Reatta does that in spades. There?s a little awkwardness on the back end, maybe. But we like the rounded rear and taillight treatment. The front end and profiles are sleek and slick. And they?ve done a nice job of using the wraparound, creased beltline to join the top to the bottom. Unfortunately, the interior isn?t anywhere close to being as nice. The problem was one of building the car on a tight budget. Since it was also built on a shortened Riviera platform, part of the budget squeeze meant that the already developed, electronic, digital Riv dashboard is now conveyored to the Reatta assembly line as well. A functional beauty it ain?t. But we understand engineering a new dashboard would have cost enough to make the Reatta a no-go, so we?re stuck with this until General Motors makes a little more money. The rest of the interior is merely uninspiring. The seats are mediocre, even the optional, 16-way adjustable driver?s seat of our test car. The trim and materials are okay. But this doesn?t look like the inside of a car that just set you back some 27 large. For a 2-seater, though, it has some worthwhile and interesting versatility. There?s a really big load shelf behind the seats, roomy enough for any well-behaved, well-curled Irish Setter. In this shelf?s floor are two lockable and good-sized storage compartments. There?s also a lockable doorway through to the fairly generous trunk for long stuff like those skis and trombone cases somebody must think we need to carry around. What the Reatta?s interior lacks, the rest of the car really busts its well-rounded butt to make up for. It deserves especially good marks on ride and handling. The shortened Riv platform, with its fully independent suspension, arrives in more-or-less T-Type calibration. That means that, while our target customers don?t want the dreaded 2-seater harshness, Buick decided they want sporty handling enough to have given the Reatta an advanced competency rating on life?s twists and turns. On our skidpad, it managed a note-worthy 0.83g worth of cornering force. On real-life roads, where suspension travel is more important than a skidpad number, the Reatta is even more impressive. It picks up its feet over bumps and dips like a defensive back doing those agility drills through old tires. Roll stiffness is ample, too, with a 31mm front bar and 16mm rear, so the up-and-down compliance over bumps doesn?t necessarily translate into cornering on the door handles. Two aspects of the Reatta?s demeanor deserve special mention. The assisted rack-and-pinion steering allows you to speak directly to the car, instead of whispering a trick phrase with a hidden meaning around a circle and hoping the tires pick it up. The second pleasant surprise is proper shock damping. Hustle the Reatta along with pretty serious abandon, and these shocks will keep things in hand. It?s unlikely any Reatta owners will expect it to behave like there are numbers on the doors. But within the context of its intended market, the Reatta can dive off a straight freeway and hold its own with a crooked canyon. Driven briskly, the Reatta is enjoyable and capable. In the chassis department, at least, Fitzsimmons? Reatta commendably leans a little more toward sport than luxury. And for its projected owner, it should definitely be fun to drive. Credit is also due the 3.8-liter V-6 engine, which benefits from another major re-think in a continuing series of upgrades. Several years ago, the 90 degree V-6 was given a split-pin crankshaft to achieve an even firing order, but it left the connecting rods uncentered in the bores, with a resulting side loading on the pistons. But now the fix is in. Basically, the block was moved around relative to the crank, the cylinders were centered over the crankpins, and the valve lifter bores adjusted appropriately. With no more side loading on the pistons, they were lightened. New cylinder heads allow better breathing and improved positioning of the fuel-injector nozzles. Finally, a counter-rotating balance shaft, driven at engine speed, was fitted above the camshaft. This engine is now a slick piece. Smoothness is so good that you don?t even think about it; what?s to notice? But you will notice its eagerness to get with the program. Last year?s 150hp is this year?s 165. And torque is up from 200 lb-ft to 210. Beyond that, it starts instantly and throttle response is of the right-now variety. It even makes a nice sound that?s definitely more sport than luxury. Translated into numbers, our fearless test driver banged the Reatta from 0-60 mph in 9.34 sec and made the quarter mile in a trip of 17.13 sec at 83.2 mph. Acceleration like this won?t win you any trophies, but it?s fast enough that you shouldn?t miss any important appointments, either. We?re betting those Reatta focus group participants will think it?s plenty quick enough for their sheltered nerve endings. It might be even more important to them that the Reatta?s 4-wheel disc brakes feature the non-skid security of ABS. So equipped, our Reatta stopped from 60 mph in 149 ft. And on one of those briskly taken drives that showed the steering and shocks working so well, the brakes chipped in with good front-to-rear balance and minimal foreboding of fade. As does any new car with at least half a personality, the Reatta has already faced its share of controversy. Not everyone who sees it likes the looks. The diehard throttle jocks wonder about any 2-seater that rides decently, can?t melt rubber, and doesn?t let the rain in. But we happen to like it. We like the looks, the way it rides and handles, the way it goes. And we think it?s targeted right on the money for its owners, of which we won?t be one, but we think they?ll love it anyway But it has three nits that are going to be picked right here and now: Instead of the familiar click-click-click, the turn signals are accompanied by a chime we found irritating. The automatic transmission works well around town, but has a big gap from 3rd to 4th. If you use the 4th gear, or overdrive, position for most driving ? as we?re certain most people will ? it shifts back and forth to excess, trying to decide which gear will work. Finally, there?s the CRT panel, a shining example of technology run amok if ever there was one. We figured it out, programmed some favorite radio stations, dialed in the air conditioner, looked at all the possible screens. We tried, but we just don?t like it. Those irritants aside, we think the Reatta is right on the money. The engine is responsive, snappy, strong, and quick. The chassis has been tuned to near-perfection for the task at hand; its ride has that well-damped feel we once could find only with better European cars, and its handling capabilities are so high we doubt if 10 owners will ever approach its upper limits on purpose. Wrap it up in styling that looks fresh, distinctive, and just plain great, and you?ve got a 2-seater that should win the hearts of those maturing boomers and socially elite, and wedge itself into a nice, neat niche in the market by doing so. The Reatta has accurately hit ?em where they ain?t. Think of at as a small niche for mankind, maybe, but a big one for Buick and GM.
  13. I remain ambivalent to this controversy. But to Indy Reatta let me suggest that when it is time to restore the '29 Packard I have a recommendation. A former workmate of mine here has renovated two of his own and a dozen others for premier Packard collectors around the country. I think that he would be pleased to correspond advice to you. Just send me an E-mail and I will forward this contact to a fellow Hoosier.
  14. To see a test of the factory versions or Turbo, Supercharged and RWD Reattas see the "For your info, Automobile Quarterly" post now on page 4 of this forum.
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